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I never tried a full tilt boot since out here none of the shop have some, they looks Hella comfy,
It's ether I go full tilt or DALBELLO IL MORO
We don't really have a proper boot fitter out here so,
Give me some feedback, on these boots
Idk about the regular Il Moro but the il Moro mx is amazing if you have wide feet, due to the bottom buckle being able to be put in two places, in my experience ft run kind of narrow, and the buckles are dogshit but they make the most comfortable boot I’ve worn
I do not ski backseated I'm an experience skier I mostly ski the park 70% and 30 % on the mountain, The last pair of boots I had was a 3 piece buckles and had no shin problems, I don't think my boots are too big I'm consider a race fit right now 1 finger behind my boot, my feet and shins are very narrow, not sure if the wrap around liner on full tilt helps with that...
Edit: Well shit. Delete everything I just said about shell length since it sounds like you know what you're doing there.
It is worthwhile try to find some info on the Raptor 100s themselves (possible sources: NS, TGR forums, Blister Review) on they fit (e.g. wide/narrow forefoot, wide/narrow heel, high/low instep, etc.) Even if you're in a shell that's that right length, it's entirely possible it's just not a good fit for your forefoot, heel, instep, ankle, or lower leg.
FWIW I have found Intuition Wraps to be crazy comfy, but that's also only in boots that fit my feet really well. Best of luck.
**This post was edited on Jan 6th 2022 at 10:36:28am
My shell fit is 1 finger, Pretty much race fit they fit nice really nice, but the shin pain is horrible,
Maybe going back to a 3 buckle would help but not sure,
**This post was edited on Jan 6th 2022 at 10:36:55am
My top pieces of advise:
1. Make sure you boot shell is actually a good fit for your foot (if a fitter didn't put you in your ski boot, go see one)
1a. Just getting full tilts or a 3-piece boot is not the end-all answer to shin bang. I skied in poorly fitting full tilts for years (they just weren't a good fit for my foot) and suffered terrible shin bang before getting fitted into a 4-buckle Lange boot that solved most of my problems.
2. Purchase a footbed - this will ensure your foot is in the best possible position for skiing and overall boot fit
3. Make sure you're buckling your boots properly (a healthy amount of tension on your upper cuff buckles and don't be afraid to adjust throughout the day - you'd be surprised how many people don't buckle their boots properly)
4. If you're still having issues, some form of booster strap can really help eliminate shin bang
Hope these thoughts help solve your issue! Shin bang is the worst!
Go to a shop and try them both on. Some full tilts like the b and e, drop kick, and more have much softer flex ratings than the il moro. I love my drop kicks, but most of my friends have the il moro and also love it. They are both great boots, what ever fits you better is what you should go with.
Ski07I do not ski backseated I'm an experience skier I mostly ski the park 70% and 30 % on the mountain, The last pair of boots I had was a 3 piece buckles and had no shin problems, I don't think my boots are too big I'm consider a race fit right now 1 finger behind my boot, my feet and shins are very narrow, not sure if the wrap around liner on full tilt helps with that...
By too big I wasn’t referring to length, I was referring to the volume in the upper of the boot. It may be that you have too much room between your lower leg and the liner. I.e. you can probably fit a few fingers in between your shin and the tongue of the liner. Wrap liners do not help with this as it’s difficult to close them around a narrow lower leg, tongue liners are definitely better for this leg shape.
animatorBy too big I wasn’t referring to length, I was referring to the volume in the upper of the boot. It may be that you have too much room between your lower leg and the liner. I.e. you can probably fit a few fingers in between your shin and the tongue of the liner. Wrap liners do not help with this as it’s difficult to close them around a narrow lower leg, tongue liners are definitely better for this leg shape.
What would help to fill in that space, I have the same problem, too much space between shin
cody04What would help to fill in that space, I have the same problem, too much space between shin
Getting a new liner or working out. People add shims and shit but I’m not a big believer in putting anything in your boots other than your foot your sock and your footbed.
BradFiAusNzCoCaGet a booster strap. They’re a game changer. I’ve always been extremely picky about my boots and thin calves. Booster strap helped a lot
I second this. Even if you ski backseat, booster straps will prevent shin bang. If you don't ski backseat as you say, then they'll still help with shin bang and provide added performance. They're like $30 and 100% worth it. Definitely worth trying this before wasting money on new liners.
Ski07My shell fit is 1 finger, Pretty much race fit they fit nice really nice, but the shin pain is horrible,
Maybe going back to a 3 buckle would help but not sure,
**This post was edited on Jan 6th 2022 at 10:36:55am
Let's assume that the shell is correct for your foot shape, and it also sounds like it is definitely not too long for your foot. Other members have posted some great points and I would second:
1. It doesn't matter if the boot has 4 buckles or 2 or is a 3-piece tongue boot or an 2-piece overlap. Lots of park athletes are in race boots, lots in 3-piece boots. Ultimately, if the fit is wrong, it will suck but if the fit is right, it will be awesome.
2. Shin bang is often caused by your foot twisting & moving around and when this happens so does your shin. Make sure you have a proper, aftermarket (ideally custom) footbed that will create the ideal interface between your foot and the boot, and prevent your shin from literally twisting inside the cuff.
3. Is the liner a good fit for you in the tongue & calf areas? If points 1 & 2 are dialed, then this is the area you need to address. It could be that the liner tongue is simply not the right fit for your shin. It could be that there is simply too much volume in the cuff of the boot and your leg can freely slide/bang around. Short of buying a new boot, you could look at aftermarket liners to solve this problem. Lots of great options here, but the ideal one will be a Mimic Professional liner from Atomic. Not only is the liner literally made for your foot, leg, and the shell & cuff it goes into, but there are 3 different tongue thicknesses available to help find the right fit for your shin, which I think could really help you. No liner brand is doing anything remotely like it.
This is from another forum, but this guy also has a Raptor boot and here is his experience after putting a Mimic Professional liner into it:
onenerdykidLet's assume that the shell is correct for your foot shape, and it also sounds like it is definitely not too long for your foot. Other members have posted some great points and I would second:
1. It doesn't matter if the boot has 4 buckles or 2 or is a 3-piece tongue boot or an 2-piece overlap. Lots of park athletes are in race boots, lots in 3-piece boots. Ultimately, if the fit is wrong, it will suck but if the fit is right, it will be awesome.
2. Shin bang is often caused by your foot twisting & moving around and when this happens so does your shin. Make sure you have a proper, aftermarket (ideally custom) footbed that will create the ideal interface between your foot and the boot, and prevent your shin from literally twisting inside the cuff.
3. Is the liner a good fit for you in the tongue & calf areas? If points 1 & 2 are dialed, then this is the area you need to address. It could be that the liner tongue is simply not the right fit for your shin. It could be that there is simply too much volume in the cuff of the boot and your leg can freely slide/bang around. Short of buying a new boot, you could look at aftermarket liners to solve this problem. Lots of great options here, but the ideal one will be a Mimic Professional liner from Atomic. Not only is the liner literally made for your foot, leg, and the shell & cuff it goes into, but there are 3 different tongue thicknesses available to help find the right fit for your shin, which I think could really help you. No liner brand is doing anything remotely like it.
This is from another forum, but this guy also has a Raptor boot and here is his experience after putting a Mimic Professional liner into it:
Thanks for the great feedback, I really think my problem is the liner tongue is not big enough there's not enough of volume, since my shins are supper small, I'm a pretty skinny guy, like you mention I might need new liners, Can't wait to get a right fit, I've been spending way to much money :/
