Considering Elan Ripstick 88 vs. Kore 87 Women's

Definitely kore over the ripstick

switchlip2Definitely kore over the ripstick

Thanks for weighing in! Why do you think so?

careywardThanks for weighing in! Why do you think so?

I’ve ridden the head kore 93 when I was younger and it fit the riding style you described. Pretty good ski for traditional all mountain skiing

If you're interested, the shop at the ski hill I work at has some Kore Ws for 45% off that we can ship. I can check on lengths.

Haven't tried any of these skis, but we measured them all. Look here. The Head Kore 87 was measured in 19/20 and the W in 20/21. Not sure how much they changed. We measured the MissConduct in 20/21.

Which length do you ski with the MissConduct? I assumed 159 below...

I can say with a lot of confidence that the Kore 87 162 are the same in their unisex/women versions (there is a 80g difference in weight, but that might be manufacturing difference from one year to the other) and that the Ripstick 88 162 (W) / 164 are also the same ski.

The shape of the Kore and Ripstick are really close. Same running length (K a bit longer), same sidecut length, same rocker shape, same tail (less than your MC). Sidecut radius is also very close for all of these skis (13-14m). The K is narrower (82 vs 87mm). You have a bit more tip taper on the Kore.

Both the K and R are softer in torsion than the MC. This mean that they will be more playful, easier to slide around and demanding less precise motion from you than the MC. The K are overall stiffer in bending, but that comes from stiff tip/tail and a soft center, which is the opposite for the R and MC (I am not 100% sure what it means on the snow... but if you test them you can tell us).

With the K and R, you will get a more backward mount point. You will get more ski in front of you (less in the back), which I think might make them a bit harder to manage but other people could confirm. If you think your MC159 are too long I would consider sizing down. It gets a bit tricky because it is a large step (almost 10 cm), but also because the K153 has a much shorter running length in a similar stiffness (even stiffer!) as the 162, while the R154 has similar running length as the 162 in a softer ski! The K153 is also 80 mm at the waist (instead of 87) and has a shorter sidecut radius (11m)

Ouf... too many numbers! Go ski them all! :-)

aludeHaven't tried any of these skis, but we measured them all. Look here. The Head Kore 87 was measured in 19/20 and the W in 20/21. Not sure how much they changed. We measured the MissConduct in 20/21.

Which length do you ski with the MissConduct? I assumed 159 below...

I can say with a lot of confidence that the Kore 87 162 are the same in their unisex/women versions (there is a 80g difference in weight, but that might be manufacturing difference from one year to the other) and that the Ripstick 88 162 (W) / 164 are also the same ski.

The shape of the Kore and Ripstick are really close. Same running length (K a bit longer), same sidecut length, same rocker shape, same tail (less than your MC). Sidecut radius is also very close for all of these skis (13-14m). The K is narrower (82 vs 87mm). You have a bit more tip taper on the Kore.

Both the K and R are softer in torsion than the MC. This mean that they will be more playful, easier to slide around and demanding less precise motion from you than the MC. The K are overall stiffer in bending, but that comes from stiff tip/tail and a soft center, which is the opposite for the R and MC (I am not 100% sure what it means on the snow... but if you test them you can tell us).

With the K and R, you will get a more backward mount point. You will get more ski in front of you (less in the back), which I think might make them a bit harder to manage but other people could confirm. If you think your MC159 are too long I would consider sizing down. It gets a bit tricky because it is a large step (almost 10 cm), but also because the K153 has a much shorter running length in a similar stiffness (even stiffer!) as the 162, while the R154 has similar running length as the 162 in a softer ski! The K153 is also 80 mm at the waist (instead of 87) and has a shorter sidecut radius (11m)

Ouf... too many numbers! Go ski them all! :-)

Thanks for all these details, I really appreciate the breakdown especially comparing to my existing skis.

Can't believe I forgot to say my missconducts are 169 cm. I think too long for me!

How does that change things?

careywardThanks for all these details, I really appreciate the breakdown especially comparing to my existing skis.

Can't believe I forgot to say my missconducts are 169 cm. I think too long for me!

How does that change things?

I don't have the measurement of the MC169 so I can't figure how exactly how they scale up. But if they do, either by running length or stiffness, I would think that going to 162 in the K or R might be your ticket. As usual, if you can demo you will know for sure.

thanks again, super website!