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Heel lift in FT Drop Kicks

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Bandiwep
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So I just got some FT Drop Kicks and they fit pretty well, the only thing that's been bugging me is the heel lift. I have pretty skinny feet so I thought about adding a second sole to put my foot a bit higher and stop it from lifting or to get some j-bars , but I'm not really a expert and I thought that it'll better if I ask for some methods. Thx in advance

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Dec 24 2021 9:43AM
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Lemuel
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Go see a bootfitter and get a boot that actually fits your foot. Adding materials is not ideal to make a boot fit. If these boots are new, which it sounds like they are, the problem is only going to get worse.
Dec 24 2021 10:02AM
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KilaTsunami
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Bootfitter. Have them add a wedge under heel. Helped me. But I don’t rock Full Tilts Bcs I hate the way they feel
Dec 24 2021 10:12AM
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Bandiwep
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LemuelGo see a bootfitter and get a boot that actually fits your foot. Adding materials is not ideal to make a boot fit. If these boots are new, which it sounds like they are, the problem is only going to get worse.

Thx for the advice, the boot fits pretty k, the only thing is the heel lift. I've had this problem with many boots since my feet r big and small at the same time, I've got some 29.5. length and width wise they're as good as it gets but since I've got some chicken feet, I've got some space between my foot and the top of the boot but it's not tragic to the point of me having to buy new boots.

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Dec 24 2021 10:15AM
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animator
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BandiwepThx for the advice, the boot fits pretty k, the only thing is the heel lift. I've had this problem with many boots since my feet r big and small at the same time, I've got some 29.5. length and width wise they're as good as it gets but since I've got some chicken feet, I've got some space between my foot and the top of the boot but it's not tragic to the point of me having to buy new boots.

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Pretty common to feel that in a boot if you have a low volume/skinny lower leg. JBars may help some but I’d go to a fitter and see what they recommend. Did you get them molded?
Dec 24 2021 11:04AM
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Logi
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KilaTsunamiI don’t rock Full Tilts Bcs I hate the way they feel

If you don’t mind me asking, why not? Is it the shape of the boot itself? Actually curious about this because there are so many mixed reviews about why people don’t like full tilts
Dec 24 2021 12:37PM
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Bandiwep
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animatorPretty common to feel that in a boot if you have a low volume/skinny lower leg. JBars may help some but I’d go to a fitter and see what they recommend. Did you get them molded?

Not yet, I just picked them up yesterday. Thx for the advice
Dec 24 2021 2:16PM
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animator
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BandiwepNot yet, I just picked them up yesterday. Thx for the advice


Getting them cooked can help form a heel pocket as long as it’s done correctly, I’d start there
Dec 24 2021 2:25PM
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KilaTsunami
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LogiIf you don’t mind me asking, why not? Is it the shape of the boot itself? Actually curious about this because there are so many mixed reviews about why people don’t like full tilts


We’ll first off, I went and tried them all on. I guess my feet just aren’t shaped right for them... Lol. I felt the least worst in the tan dropkicks… mad pain on the top of my foot tho!! We heat molded them twice and I still had mad pain/pressure in the same spot!!! So the bootfitter had me try on some new Salomons and I loved them. Pretty boring colors, but idc about the looks anymore, I just want comfortable boots. I’ve never had a pair I liked until I sat down multiple times with my local shop.


What I’m tryna say is do yourself a favor and take the time to try everything on. Don’t judge them based off looks or brand recognition. Chose purely based off feel/comfort. If I learned anything about boots this year, it was this ^^ (and I can thank NS for that)
Dec 24 2021 2:49PM
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dkels
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I highly recommend these for heel lift issues. They also allow you to add jbars. Only downside is they make it slightly harder to get your boots onhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1023700/New-Product---The-Liner-Sleeve
Dec 24 2021 3:36PM
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Bandiwep
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dkelsI highly recommend these for heel lift issues. They also allow you to add jbars. Only downside is they make it slightly harder to get your boots onhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1023700/New-Product---The-Liner-Sleeve

I've watched the vid and they do seem pretty interesting tho the shipping pains me a little since I don't live in the states. Just wanted to ask if you've got any expirience with them and if yes if they're worth their price?
Dec 24 2021 5:49PM
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dkels
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BandiwepI've watched the vid and they do seem pretty interesting tho the shipping pains me a little since I don't live in the states. Just wanted to ask if you've got any expirience with them and if yes if they're worth their price?


Hard to say if they’re worth it if the shipping is astronomical… I will say there is a VERY good chance they will solve your heel lift issues and they might be cheaper than going to a shop and getting takes into alterations/new boots
Dec 24 2021 6:16PM
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dmcdmc
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If you have heel lift then the boots don't fit well. It's not something that will improve over time either. I'd return them and get boots that fit right out of the box.
Dec 24 2021 7:02PM
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soupcan
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dkelsI highly recommend these for heel lift issues. They also allow you to add jbars. Only downside is they make it slightly harder to get your boots onhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1023700/New-Product---The-Liner-Sleeve


That’s a really interesting product. I am going to buy a set in the New Year. As someone with a NO-volume foot this could be the ticket. I have downsized down to under measured mondo size and still can’t get the boots tight enough even after seeing a certified fitter.
Dec 24 2021 7:24PM
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animator
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dmcdmcIf you have heel lift then the boots don't fit well. It's not something that will improve over time either. I'd return them and get boots that fit right out of the box.


This is completely false. I have 3 different pairs of boots and they all fit correctly, but if I try and lift my heel I can move it a centimeter or two in every one of them. Not everyone’s anatomy allows them to find a boot that fits right out of the box. Who is feeding you all of this information I’d love to know
Dec 25 2021 1:00AM
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Turnfarmer
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Heel lifts should only be used for limited ankle dorsiflexion.

If you have normal ankle flexion a heel lift will put you overflexed, causing all kinds of trouble.

If your ankle flexion is limited it will help both your heel lift problems and your balance/stance.
Dec 25 2021 11:13PM
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Bandiwep
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dkelsI highly recommend these for heel lift issues. They also allow you to add jbars. Only downside is they make it slightly harder to get your boots onhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1023700/New-Product---The-Liner-Sleeve

It's been a few days and i was about to order them but then I sam that there was one size raging from 24.5-28.5 liners and since my size is 29.5 I wanted to ask if 28.5 is the limit, I already emailed the company two days ago and I'm still waiting for that reply so I figured it would be best to come back to this thread and ask you if you've got any info concerning the size, if not, it's alright, I'll just wait a few more days till I receive a reply. Thx in advance
Jan 5 2022 6:38PM
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dkels
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Honestly my liners are 28.5 and these liner sleeves are super tight on them. 29.5 might not be functional… I’d wait until Craig responds just to be sure.
Jan 5 2022 7:03PM
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OhJay
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FWIW, I never had great heel lockdown in FT's wrap liners. Felt like it was a combination of the foam being too soft and just not getting my heel seated firmly. Only time they were that noticeable were when I got airborne where it felt like my heels were sliding up from the weight of the skis pulling down.

Went with FT's Pro Tongue this season and can confirm they've got much better heel hold.
Jan 5 2022 7:08PM
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tominiemenmaa
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Zipfits are the answer.
Jan 6 2022 1:23AM
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DTM325
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dkelsI highly recommend these for heel lift issues. They also allow you to add jbars. Only downside is they make it slightly harder to get your boots onhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1023700/New-Product---The-Liner-Sleeve


just picked up 2 sets. hope they work out!
Jan 7 2022 9:26PM
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