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Armada 106, Faction 2.0 or Atomic BC 100? Ski advice.

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ReturnToSender
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Hi guys,
Looking for some help picking out my new skis (as I'm leaving rental skis).

Quick info:
I'm 25,
6'2 and
I weigh 195 pounds.

I ski in France and Austria and ski roughly 3 weeks a year.

I'm an intermediate-advanced skier, looking for a one-ski quiver that will be able to handle the variety of conditions and expect to do a bit of everything (piste, off piste, and enough playability to practice butters, 180 and 360s, but I never spend any time in the park). Expect to spend around 50/50 of my time on piste vs. off but I will always opt for powder when I can.

After doing a bunch of research I've landed on the Armada 106s, Faction 2.0s (or 3.0s) and Atomic Bent Chetler 100. Wondering if any of you guys have experience with either? I'd say the 3 priorities for me are that they perform well in powder (float nice, good for taking drops etc.), have sufficient edge grip/stability for carving on piste days, as well as perform well at high speeds. And have good playability, where weight don't really matter.

Hope you guys can help me out!
Dec 21 2021 6:29AM
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Celery
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The ARV 106 will perform the best in powder, but is super stiff so it might be less fun everywhere else, the prodigy 3.0 I think could be a good choice for you. It's also at 106 underfoot and is definitely a little more jibby.
Dec 21 2021 7:03AM
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skidemon22
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CeleryThe ARV 106 will perform the best in powder, but is super stiff so it might be less fun everywhere else, the prodigy 3.0 I think could be a good choice for you. It's also at 106 underfoot and is definitely a little more jibby.


Prodigy 3.0 is a solid choice
Dec 21 2021 7:05AM
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gilbertressel
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bentchetler 100s def got a speed limit they get pretty nervous at high speeds. plus they float abt as well as any other 100mm ski, (that is, not great) the tip shape is a bit of a gimmick. They carve pretty nicely at recommended, but probs not really what ur looking for, offerings from faction will be much more fun
Dec 21 2021 7:59AM
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Kbob94
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There is also the arw 106 UL that is a option. It’s softer and lighter then the regular 106. I agree that the prodigy 3.0 is also a great option. The bent 100 is kinda a lost ski imo but for a all mtn do everything I would look at those two.
Dec 21 2021 8:02AM
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anders_a
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unless touring/ walking up, added weight is a good ski, so "ultralight" doesnt make sense for the use imho



when I ski in france and austria, I rarely get 100-106mm snow. hope you are luckier. I've probably spent more time on 60-70mm skis on vacation weeks there than my 100-120 :(

Faction 2 and 3.0's are way more fun on piste than they should be. they would be my choice.
Dec 21 2021 10:02AM
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crustyboot.420
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Prodigy 3.0s are fun as hell. Stable in high speed but you can still jib around. Haven't skied them in powder tho.
Dec 21 2021 10:18AM
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NutFromFlorida
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I am a similar skier to you. I have a pair of Bent Chetler 100s. I like the ski because it is a great option for someone who does ground piste and powder skiing. It obviously doesn’t carve like a carving ski or float like a powder ski, but it suffices in both conditions. I’ve never skied the ARV or 3.0, but from the replies here I would say that the Bent Chetler will probably be better for butters. I practice butters on mine no problem. I ski in Colarado most often, but I would suggest going with a thinner waist if you ski mostly in the alps.
Dec 21 2021 1:07PM
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Celery
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Bentchetler 100s are less cool tho and mid fat skis are good everywhere.
NutFromFloridaI am a similar skier to you. I have a pair of Bent Chetler 100s. I like the ski because it is a great option for someone who does ground piste and powder skiing. It obviously doesn’t carve like a carving ski or float like a powder ski, but it suffices in both conditions. I’ve never skied the ARV or 3.0, but from the replies here I would say that the Bent Chetler will probably be better for butters. I practice butters on mine no problem. I ski in Colarado most often, but I would suggest going with a thinner waist if you ski mostly in the alps.
Dec 21 2021 2:49PM
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NutFromFlorida
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CeleryBentchetler 100s are less cool tho and mid fat skis are good everywhere.


Mid fat skis might be good everywhere, but they are not always the best option. Might not be the cool choice. If you’re on piste most of the time and dealing with ice like you might in the Northeast US or the alps, a 90 mm underfoot or less is the best option
Dec 21 2021 3:24PM
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Celery
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I mean I live in the most northeastern state and I think anything around 100 is gonna be the best over all bet.
NutFromFloridaMid fat skis might be good everywhere, but they are not always the best option. Might not be the cool choice. If you’re on piste most of the time and dealing with ice like you might in the Northeast US or the alps, a 90 mm underfoot or less is the best option
Dec 21 2021 4:01PM
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OhJay
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I'm 5'11" 185lbs. in the PNW. My skiing style is pretty much what you described, and I went with this season's 188 ARV 106.

Since I'm not touring or getting technical in the park, I went with the heavier, more stable option in the category of mid-100 waist, all mountain twin/directional twin, which all those other skis you mention fall under. At your height and weight, I feel you could easily consider the 192 Dynastar M Free 108 as well?
Dec 21 2021 4:49PM
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goatmaster
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I got the Faction Prodigy 3.0 and love them. Soft tips for butters, stiff tails for stability and landings. Easy to spin, fairly playful, hold edges decent. The 3.0 and 2.0 are similar, but the 3.0 will ski powder better
Dec 21 2021 5:00PM
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animator
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ReturnToSenderHi guys,
Looking for some help picking out my new skis (as I'm leaving rental skis).

Quick info:
I'm 25,
6'2 and
I weigh 195 pounds.

I ski in France and Austria and ski roughly 3 weeks a year.

I'm an intermediate-advanced skier, looking for a one-ski quiver that will be able to handle the variety of conditions and expect to do a bit of everything (piste, off piste, and enough playability to practice butters, 180 and 360s, but I never spend any time in the park). Expect to spend around 50/50 of my time on piste vs. off but I will always opt for powder when I can.

After doing a bunch of research I've landed on the Armada 106s, Faction 2.0s (or 3.0s) and Atomic Bent Chetler 100. Wondering if any of you guys have experience with either? I'd say the 3 priorities for me are that they perform well in powder (float nice, good for taking drops etc.), have sufficient edge grip/stability for carving on piste days, as well as perform well at high speeds. And have good playability, where weight don't really matter.

Hope you guys can help me out!


The new ARV is gonna have the best edge grip/stability out of those 3 because it’s so stiff now. The Prod 3.0 is gonna be a close second though, don’t get a Bent Chetler they’re so boring.
Dec 21 2021 7:05PM
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animator
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anders_aunless touring/ walking up, added weight is a good ski, so "ultralight" doesnt make sense for the use imho



when I ski in france and austria, I rarely get 100-106mm snow. hope you are luckier. I've probably spent more time on 60-70mm skis on vacation weeks there than my 100-120 :(

Faction 2 and 3.0's are way more fun on piste than they should be. they would be my choice.


You’re not skiing in the right areas in France if you feel you can’t warrant a 100-106 waisted ski….
Dec 21 2021 7:06PM
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