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ButteryStix69lol part of my edge is already coming out of the base only skied them one day as well
Grondini117Bro what? I’m starting to think i’ll regret dropping so much money on those:/
ButteryStix69lol part of my edge is already coming out of the base only skied them one day as well
jompcockDo people not dull and wax their new park skis before use? Hitting rails with sharp edges is a good way to put 10 edge cracks on the first day of skiing and anyone spouting nonsense about how they let their edges "dull naturally" from hitting rails is a moron. Also wax your damn skis, it will protect your bases since factory wax doesn't really do shit and wax protects your bases a lot more than you may think.
If you did dull and wax that sucks but the edges look pretty sharp in the picture and those bases look dry af.
jompcockDo people not dull and wax their new park skis before use? Hitting rails with sharp edges is a good way to put 10 edge cracks on the first day of skiing and anyone spouting nonsense about how they let their edges "dull naturally" from hitting rails is a moron. Also wax your damn skis, it will protect your bases since factory wax doesn't really do shit and wax protects your bases a lot more than you may think.
If you did dull and wax that sucks but the edges look pretty sharp in the picture and those bases look dry af.
Grondini117Didn’t wax them, that’s true, thought factory wax would be good enough for 1st day but seems like it’s too late and i’ve got all those deep scratches:/ And for the edges I have totally no idea how to detune skis and have 0 knowledge about detuning, never done it and i’m scared my skis won’t grip at all when jumping if you know what I mean:/
KilaTsunamiDude u gotta detune the Vs… it’s so weird when they’re sharp. I had my shop detune and it still wasn’t enough yesterday. I took a gummy stone to and fixed it tho. I was catching edge like crazy.
ButteryStix69i detuned them myself then when i got them mounted i had them waxed and detuned again so you can check those off.
Grondini117Didn’t wax them, that’s true, thought factory wax would be good enough for 1st day but seems like it’s too late and i’ve got all those deep scratches:/ And for the edges I have totally no idea how to detune skis and have 0 knowledge about detuning, never done it and i’m scared my skis won’t grip at all when jumping if you know what I mean:/
jompcockInteresting. I use a file and round them out until they're incapable of cutting skin. I have a few edge cracks but I'm also on my third season on Wet +.
I mean those scratches aren't that bad. Anything that isn't a coreshot can be filled with p tex or covered by wax pretty easily. For detuning, dull edges will just make you a better skier. I ski on the ice coast have had no problem gripping with very dull Vishnus on any mountain. You can leave most of the edge somewhat sharp, but I'd 100% recommend dulling underfoot unless you wanna start competing in pipe comps. Most shops should detune but it's a good idea to learn to do it yourself.
Grondini117Are thoses marks really not too bad? and what’s p tex? I will probably detune them then, just scared asf to do it myself, they’re my first brand new skis paid by myself. And I do believe it’ll make me a better skier tbh, always used to catch a damn edge on PVC’s, etc.
Minidogfartthis kid doesn’t deserve to ride vishnus
jompcockP tex is the material your bases are made of but they sell it in the form of sticks that you melt on the base and then file smooth. Skiing with dull edges teaches you to feel how much grip the snow has and where to set your edges for grip. Also forces you to ski with good techniques such as weight on the downhill inside edge, staying foreword etc.
It's kinda hard to explain how to file with all necessary detail but I take a file at a 45º angle to the edge and run it binding to binding down the ski. Most files are directional so make sure to run the file down the ski away from you, assuming you are holding it by the handle. I then take a diamond file and go around the entire ski.
Tino94Also don't completely round your edge unless you really want to, just detune them but once rounded it will stay round, nothing worse than skiing ice on round edges or slipping on a takeoff. It won't make you a better skier haha
VISHNUI would call that a small dent in your edge from hitting rails, fill with epoxy as above post said.
They probably will be fine, but if they get worse quickly, (within the next few times skiing) PLEASE hit me up via DM and we will figure something out, don't worry.
VISHNUOP it looks like you rode over some rocks.
Minidogfartthis kid doesn’t deserve to ride vishnus
Grondini117:/
Have friends with V’s and they recommended them to me:/ what if I was just someone who was casually trying to learn park:/ Not everyone is born like you with all the knowledge that exists about park skiing I guess
Grondini117Yeah i guess i’ll detune them, kind of scared to do it. does any shop detune edges?
VISHNUI would call that a small dent in your edge from hitting rails, fill with epoxy as above post said.
They probably will be fine, but if they get worse quickly, (within the next few times skiing) PLEASE hit me up via DM and we will figure something out, don't worry.
QuaggyWere you skiing on pumice or obsidian OP?
Looks like you need a waxing setup... Get yourself a thick layer of hot wax and scrape it off. You won't notice those scratches.
weastcoatIs this your first pair of park skis? Are you relatively new to park skiing?
im assuming you are. Congratulations, you’re progressing and riding the way you should if you’re putting little scratches in your base or little dents/cracks in your edges. No, skis aren’t meant to stay perfect. If you don’t do this to your skis, then you’re probably not riding hard enough. Or not having enough fun.
so if you want your skis to last, you can fill that little gap with West Systems G flex epoxy. Search it up on Amazon. This will keep water out. You don’t want water in there because it freezes and expands, and will really fuck up your skis fast. No matter what skis they are.
I’ve ridden Vishnu’s for years and years now, and they’re some of the best made skis you can buy, especially for the price. I’ve literally ripped apart brand new pairs with tools (I hate edges in my skis) and I can assure you these skis are made with high quality materials and epoxies. So if you get damage and it gets way worse than what it was, it’s your fault, not the ski’s.
Also I wouldn’t even fret about those bases. I’ve ridden Vishnu’s that have had bases as smooth as the gravel lots that they were skied over… and they never affected my speed too bad, you just gotta wax often if they get to that point.
have fun.
LazylightningWhat factory afe V's made in? Just out of curiosity...
TuckoAm I riding hard enough on the new V’s?
LazylightningWhat factory afe V's made in? Just out of curiosity...
ButteryStix69bro what happened !!
LazylightningWhat factory afe V's made in? Just out of curiosity...
ButteryStix69same factory as DPS skis
idk the name
Grondini117Didn’t wax them, that’s true, thought factory wax would be good enough for 1st day but seems like it’s too late and i’ve got all those deep scratches:/ And for the edges I have totally no idea how to detune skis and have 0 knowledge about detuning, never done it and i’m scared my skis won’t grip at all when jumping if you know what I mean:/
Grondini117:/
Have friends with V’s and they recommended them to me:/ what if I was just someone who was casually trying to learn park:/ Not everyone is born like you with all the knowledge that exists about park skiing I guess
QuaggyWere you skiing on pumice or obsidian OP?
Looks like you need a waxing setup... Get yourself a thick layer of hot wax and scrape it off. You won't notice those scratches.
weastcoatIs this your first pair of park skis? Are you relatively new to park skiing?
im assuming you are. Congratulations, you’re progressing and riding the way you should if you’re putting little scratches in your base or little dents/cracks in your edges. No, skis aren’t meant to stay perfect. If you don’t do this to your skis, then you’re probably not riding hard enough. Or not having enough fun.
so if you want your skis to last, you can fill that little gap with West Systems G flex epoxy. Search it up on Amazon. This will keep water out. You don’t want water in there because it freezes and expands, and will really fuck up your skis fast. No matter what skis they are.
I’ve ridden Vishnu’s for years and years now, and they’re some of the best made skis you can buy, especially for the price. I’ve literally ripped apart brand new pairs with tools (I hate edges in my skis) and I can assure you these skis are made with high quality materials and epoxies. So if you get damage and it gets way worse than what it was, it’s your fault, not the ski’s.
Also I wouldn’t even fret about those bases. I’ve ridden Vishnu’s that have had bases as smooth as the gravel lots that they were skied over… and they never affected my speed too bad, you just gotta wax often if they get to that point.
have fun.
Shrek_IDThe fact that you’re so worried about small scratches in your wax lets everyone know how lightly you ski, my best friend has like 20 core shots in his j skis vacations and he still shreds them hard af. He just waxes and ptex’s his skis often. Its like a skateboard, except you can fix it. They’re meant to get thrashed
TRVP_ANGELsharpen the edges as much as possible.
Grondini117Yeah i guess i’ll detune them, kind of scared to do it. does any shop detune edges?
BradFiAusNzCoCaI agree. Idk what all that about dulled edges making you a better skier was
jompcockI know people act like it's the fucking apocalypse if they don't get their skis regularly sharpened and still complain when there's the slightest bit of ice. I also know people that can carve hip to the ground slalom turns on Vishnus on an icy east coast day. Sharp edges are a crutch. Skiing with dull edges will actually make you pay attention to where the snow has grip and not just try to sink your edges in whenever you feel like turning.
BradFiAusNzCoCaDude this is so off base idk what to tell you. Have you ever skied a proper detune on ice? Slalom turns on Vishnu’s on ice?
Nobody is talking about getting your skis regularly sharpened but this isn’t in my head. This is literally a fact. You can’t carve on ice with a proper detune and detunes teach you to slide because as you engage the edge, it slips out so carving is very limited to non-existent. You need softer snow to carve on detuned.
This isn’t rocket science.
Also, I think you meant GS turns not slalom.
**This post was edited on Nov 30th 2021 at 10:55:25am
jompcockWho is a better driver, someone that can drive a fwd car with all season tires in the snow or someone who will crash if they don't have 4wd and winter tires? I didn't literally mean the tight radius slalom turns but definitely tighter than gs.
And any jerkoff can lean and make turns with sharpish skis in most snow. My point was that it forces you to make the most of less traction such as actually having your weight on your downhill inside edge where if you didn't you'd slip out and eat shit.
also you seem to have spent most of your time skiing places with little ice so I get your lack of understanding as to how icy terrain works. An icy day doesn't literally mean that every square inch of the trail is bulletproof ice, it just implies that there are ice patches spread throughout and other areas where there is a bit more grip. Open your third eye and find that grip.
this is not rocket appliance
**This post was edited on Nov 30th 2021 at 11:28:46am
BradFiAusNzCoCaI had a long typed out response but I don’t feel like entertaining this anymore. All I’ll say is:
1) I’ve spent the last few years skiing places known for ice
2) the most grip is immediately before a slide in driving/race theory. You can’t grip if you’re already sliding. Thus proving your point moot. You’re literally arguing the point for straight skis over shaped skis.
The only thing I can think is that maybe your detune isn’t as aggressive as you think. I have carved on detuned skis. Your ski can not hold the edge unless it is soft snow. This is just a fact once the ski starts to flex and the edge underneath your foot takes the primary force of your weight. It is why skis are shaped. Your weight flexes the ski and the shape allows your foot to be slightly lower down the hill than the tips and tails. This is just a fact. I don’t have anymore to argue about because this is just how skis are made. It’s 101.
jompcockHoly shit dude how the fuck can't you grasp this concept?
