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Does being a skier make you better at math?

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EmilDeschamps
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Angles spinning and shit
Nov 20 2021 12:19AM 12 2
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ArgyleNJ
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Well, yea... it's science.
Nov 20 2021 12:24AM 2 3
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dolanslebensraum
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Part of the reason why things like skateboarding and corking on skis are so cool is bc you cant be a complete idiot if you want to participate.

For example, in order to be able to adjust your spinning and corking dynamics mid-air you need to have a rudimentary understanding of angular momentum, among other things.
Nov 20 2021 1:01AM 5 23
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armchair_skier
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I ONLY CALL MY SPINS IN RADIANS
Nov 20 2021 1:02AM 37 2
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dolanslebensraum
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ArgyleNJWell, yea... it's science.

Everything is science.
armchair_skierI ONLY CALL MY SPINS IN RADIANS

Haha.




i remember in 2007 or 2008 when the discovery channel seemed to take a big interested in the freeskiing revolution and even sponsored the field productions movie get lucky or something. They did some shows with msp on the film claim i think as well

I always wondered why discovery would be so interested in skiing.
Nov 20 2021 1:28AM 4 10
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dognuts
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UAHAHHAHAHAHA MANN I JUST DID THE HUGEST MOST MASSIVE 2pi EVER
ITS SIR CUMFERENCE WAS BIG BIG
armchair_skierI ONLY CALL MY SPINS IN RADIANS
Nov 20 2021 1:29AM 16 0
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ReturnToMonkey
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Most skiers ive met kinda suck at math ngl
Nov 20 2021 1:34AM 21 0
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RH406
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No.

source: took calc like three times in college
Nov 20 2021 2:26AM 21 0
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Quaggy
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Math?
That's for posers
Nov 20 2021 2:51AM 10 2
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theabortionator
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I felt smart when we did rotations of 90 and I knew everything up to a billion because of future spins. Then the next day we did other math and I felt stupid again.
Nov 20 2021 3:18AM 9 0
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milotv34
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dolanslebensraumPart of the reason why things like skateboarding and corking on skis are so cool is bc you cant be a complete idiot if you want to participate.

For example, in order to be able to adjust your spinning and corking dynamics mid-air you need to have a rudimentary understanding of angular momentum, among other things.


why is this getting downvoted? its true
Nov 20 2021 12:02PM 0 13
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jakeordie
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Yeah but practical math, not like numbers on paper theory shit.
Nov 20 2021 12:09PM 1 1
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mrk127
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vishnusidelipperwhy is this getting downvoted? its true

Cuz Dolan is tryin to sound smart
Nov 20 2021 12:46PM 14 0
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Icant_kfed
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No I’ve failed 3/4 of my pre calc tests so far
Nov 20 2021 1:23PM 9 0
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freestyler540
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Building jumps is basically one big math equation. Gotta predict the speed of entry, size and angle of the lip and how far and what angle you require for a safe landing. Hint: its all projectiles
Nov 20 2021 2:28PM 3 0
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ASAPCarter
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@WoFlowz
Nov 20 2021 2:30PM 3 0
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Turd__Authority
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This thread is embarrassing
Nov 20 2021 2:34PM 4 3
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mrk127
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freestyler540Building jumps is basically one big math equation. Gotta predict the speed of entry, size and angle of the lip and how far and what angle you require for a safe landing. Hint: its all projectiles

Yes I’m sure the average park groomer is gonna pull a kinematics integral out of their ass to find the optimum launch trajectory when building a park jump
Nov 20 2021 3:07PM 5 1
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milotv34
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mrk127Cuz Dolan is tryin to sound smart


Dolan is an idiot, but in this case hes sort of right
Nov 20 2021 3:08PM 0 0
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ColoradoSki
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Ya kinda😂I mean like when my teacher is like what 2160/ 360 then ya. Or anything with 90,180, or 360 i can divide it or multiply it cuz or skiing, like dub 10 has 3 rotations duh but that kinda translate
Nov 20 2021 3:35PM 1 0
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WoFlowz
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ASAPCarter@WoFlowz


Better at geometry not algebra
Nov 20 2021 3:39PM 2 0
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dolanslebensraum
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vishnusidelipperwhy is this getting downvoted? its true

The post rating keeps score of how many jimmies your post slammed.



I assume the kids downvoting my post in this thread suck at math.
Nov 20 2021 4:09PM 0 4
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bertBertson
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jakeordieYeah but practical math, not like numbers on paper theory shit.


"Yea but practical skiing, not like skis on snow"
Nov 20 2021 4:23PM 0 0
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freestyler540
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mrk127Yes I’m sure the average park groomer is gonna pull a kinematics integral out of their ass to find the optimum launch trajectory when building a park jump

No, CAT drivers follow plans and instructions. They are experts in driving cats, not as much the math involved in building a jump by eye, in the middle of the night.
Nov 20 2021 4:25PM 1 1
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dolanslebensraum
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mrk127Cuz Dolan is tryin to sound smart

Dude if i tried to sound smart you would think i was writing in a foreign language.


freestyler540Building jumps is basically one big math equation. Gotta predict the speed of entry, size and angle of the lip and how far and what angle you require for a safe landing. Hint: its all projectiles

yeah. Its actually alot of fun to work out projectile motions. Easy as cake but still fun. The only headache parts would be adjusting for friction(dolan) and air resistance.


mrk127Yes I’m sure the average park groomer is gonna pull a kinematics integral out of their ass to find the optimum launch trajectory when building a park jump

actually im pretty damn sure they calculate all the jump parameters before building. On kiddy jumps you could just eyeball it but on any jump over 20 feet you would have to be an idiot to not take a minute to work out the dimensions of the jump you are building. Its so much easier to take a few measurements and build to spec than trying to brute force a bitch into completion.

and on a 50 + footer? If you didnt work out the dimensions beforehand, you would be begging for a lawsuit.

projectile motion is about as complicated as jacking off. Its easy and there really is no reason not to do it.


vishnusidelipperDolan is an idiot, but in this case hes sort of right
Nov 20 2021 4:34PM 5 4
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steeznszn
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In high school trig there was a question on a test like “what’s the angle at 1620 degrees?” And my first thought was “that’s 4 and a half rotations.

So yes
Nov 21 2021 12:54AM 6 0
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bennwithtwons
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theabortionatorI felt smart when we did rotations of 90 and I knew everything up to a billion because of future spins. Then the next day we did other math and I felt stupid again.


have you ever had someone claim that just sliding a rail and then spinning a front 2 out should count as a 'pretzel?' this annoys me to no end. i have a friend that isn't very good at park skiing and always claims 'i did a sick pretzel 2 out' under those conditions... it pains me

i fiercely MAINTAIN that you can only claim a pretzel spin of any kind if you rotated a minimum of 180 degrees prior to the 'pretzel' rotation. i'm sure it is obvious what i mean but as an example:

front swap, front 2, that's fine, call it a pretzel.
switch lip, back 2, not fine. don't you dare
Nov 21 2021 3:59PM 1 0
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jprene8
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theabortionatorI felt smart when we did rotations of 90 and I knew everything up to a billion because of future spins. Then the next day we did other math and I felt stupid again.
WoFlowzBetter at geometry not algebra


yea pretty much this, I think (in my not official or informed opinion) that stuff involving degrees of rotation like geometry or maybe trigonometry and stuff involving spatial reasoning and problem solving yes, but algebra calc and other higher level forms of math not really. Same thing as @theabortionator did geo in hs was pretty easy going back to algebra it was fucking terrible, same with pre calc in college.

**This post was edited on Nov 21st 2021 at 4:18:29pm
Nov 21 2021 4:17PM 1 0
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piss_boy
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Came a little to close to failing alegbra so no
Nov 21 2021 10:44PM 1 0
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BrotherB
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dolanslebensraumPart of the reason why things like skateboarding and corking on skis are so cool is bc you cant be a complete idiot if you want to participate.

For example, in order to be able to adjust your spinning and corking dynamics mid-air you need to have a rudimentary understanding of angular momentum, among other things.


send cork vids or ur retarded
Nov 22 2021 12:47AM 3 0
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dolanslebensraum
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DeadBsend cork vids or ur retarded


Never did one on skis. Could do cork 7s and 9s on a tramp pretty easily tho.

also, to the guys in this thread who think math is hard. Just give it time. You cant just read a math equation and expect to puke out the answer in 2 seconds. You gotta look at math as a puzzle. Try to break it down and figure out what is actually going on, piece by piece.

I was adhd in school and always got extra time. If i wasnt given extra time i would do terrible on tests. But with enough time i could do anything.

im saying this because you should pace yourself with math and accept it may take you alot of time to solve equations etc.

also, you have to learn it until it clicks. If it doesnt click then you havent learned it. You cant just memorize and regurgitate like you can in english or history.

If you dont fully understand the individual pieces you have to put together on math problems, then its like building a bridge out of rotten wood. The bitch is going to collapse. you have to make sure you fully understand the stuff you learned before. It builds on itself.
Nov 22 2021 1:50AM 5 1
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ReturnToMonkey
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dolanslebensraumNever did one on skis. Could do cork 7s and 9s on a tramp pretty easily tho.

also, to the guys in this thread who think math is hard. Just give it time. You cant just read a math equation and expect to puke out the answer in 2 seconds. You gotta look at math as a puzzle. Try to break it down and figure out what is actually going on, piece by piece.

I was adhd in school and always got extra time. If i wasnt given extra time i would do terrible on tests. But with enough time i could do anything.

im saying this because you should pace yourself with math and accept it may take you alot of time to solve equations etc.

also, you have to learn it until it clicks. If it doesnt click then you havent learned it. You cant just memorize and regurgitate like you can in english or history.

If you dont fully understand the individual pieces you have to put together on math problems, then its like building a bridge out of rotten wood. The bitch is going to collapse. you have to make sure you fully understand the stuff you learned before. It builds on itself.


This is true. Math is just assembling individual components in certain orders and understanding their relationships. There's a lot of types of components and relationships and it takes a lot of practice to start to understand them. Try to notice the patterns in math, it helps to learn it. Yes it's hard, but it's useful.
Nov 22 2021 2:05AM 1 0
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jprene8
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dolanslebensraumNever did one on skis. Could do cork 7s and 9s on a tramp pretty easily tho.

also, to the guys in this thread who think math is hard. Just give it time. You cant just read a math equation and expect to puke out the answer in 2 seconds. You gotta look at math as a puzzle. Try to break it down and figure out what is actually going on, piece by piece.

I was adhd in school and always got extra time. If i wasnt given extra time i would do terrible on tests. But with enough time i could do anything.

im saying this because you should pace yourself with math and accept it may take you alot of time to solve equations etc.

also, you have to learn it until it clicks. If it doesnt click then you havent learned it. You cant just memorize and regurgitate like you can in english or history.

If you dont fully understand the individual pieces you have to put together on math problems, then its like building a bridge out of rotten wood. The bitch is going to collapse. you have to make sure you fully understand the stuff you learned before. It builds on itself.


This honestly might have been one of the best least divisive things I’ve heard you say on hear, well done Dolan.
Nov 22 2021 10:42AM 3 0
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AndrewGravesSV
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dolanslebensraumNever did one on skis. Could do cork 7s and 9s on a tramp pretty easily tho.

also, to the guys in this thread who think math is hard. Just give it time. You cant just read a math equation and expect to puke out the answer in 2 seconds. You gotta look at math as a puzzle. Try to break it down and figure out what is actually going on, piece by piece.

I was adhd in school and always got extra time. If i wasnt given extra time i would do terrible on tests. But with enough time i could do anything.

im saying this because you should pace yourself with math and accept it may take you alot of time to solve equations etc.

also, you have to learn it until it clicks. If it doesnt click then you havent learned it. You cant just memorize and regurgitate like you can in english or history.

If you dont fully understand the individual pieces you have to put together on math problems, then its like building a bridge out of rotten wood. The bitch is going to collapse. you have to make sure you fully understand the stuff you learned before. It builds on itself.


this is all facts. Though some people are more predisposed to understanding it, math is largely effort based where you have to want to understand why it works. There's always a reason or structure but it can be hard to see.

saying skiers need to know physics to be able to pretzel and cork and stuff is bullshit though hahah that's more body/spatial awareness. You can know theoretically how to backflip/cork but it is wayyy different in practice

Planning/ building a good jump its great to have that projectile motion to calculate speeds and shit tho
Nov 22 2021 12:03PM 2 0
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PimpChimpin
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a^2+b^2=c^2 shits crazy
Nov 22 2021 1:27PM 1 0
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dolanslebensraum
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ReturnToMonkeyThis is true. Math is just assembling individual components in certain orders and understanding their relationships. There's a lot of types of components and relationships and it takes a lot of practice to start to understand them. Try to notice the patterns in math, it helps to learn it. Yes it's hard, but it's useful.

I think if i could say something to ppl who think they will never understand math, i would say to not feel terrible even if it takes you 4 hours of thinking about some little part of a math concept that other ppl in the class figured out in 4 seconds.

i think the reason some ppl are rockstars in math from birth and other ppl have trouble is not all because some ppl are so much smarter than others. That may be part of it but another part of it is just that ppls brains are wired differently, and some peoples minds are wired from birth in a way that math concepts are very familiar to them so they learn it easily, while others minds are wired such that math concepts are very foreign. Dont feel discouraged or disheartened just because it takes you a very long time to build the mental connections needed to solve math problems.

the only ppl who have trouble with math who deserve to be shit on are those who think math isnt important. Girls for example, kek


jprene8This honestly might have been one of the best least divisive things I’ve heard you say on hear, well done Dolan.

Thanks man.
Nov 23 2021 5:57AM 1 2
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Young_patty
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I am a skier and I can’t do long devision. So no, it does not make you better at math.
Nov 23 2021 1:29PM 3 0
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mrk127
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Piss_BoyCame a little to close to failing alegbra so no

Only dumbasses fail algebra amiright?
Nov 23 2021 9:42PM 0 1
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WoFlowz
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mrk127Only dumbasses fail algebra amiright?


Only failed two quarters 😫 passed the whole year with a 72 average. You could say I’m core
Nov 23 2021 9:58PM 2 0
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mrk127
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WoFlowzOnly failed two quarters 😫 passed the whole year with a 72 average. You could say I’m core


Atta Kid, proud of you Mr. Flowz
Nov 23 2021 10:06PM 3 0
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WoFlowz
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mrk127Atta Kid, proud of you Mr. Flowz


Got a 91 in geometry rn. Don’t understand any of the algebra parts at all but I can use a compas and do proofs 🤠
Nov 23 2021 10:11PM 3 0
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DrZoidberg
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There's one or more of these threads every year since like 2007, if not earlier, right around when kids start getting to this subject in school lol.

But have your fun OP, don't let me stop you. 3pi/2 out of that rail.

**This post was edited on Nov 23rd 2021 at 10:59:33pm
Nov 23 2021 10:59PM 4 0
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mrk127
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WoFlowzGot a 91 in geometry rn. Don’t understand any of the algebra parts at all but I can use a compas and do proofs 🤠


Fuck proofs in geometry, there are so many more useful things they could be teaching in geometry like more complicated Trig. I took geometry freshman year of HS and now I'm 2nd year engineering student and I haven't used proofs in a math class since
Nov 24 2021 12:44AM 1 0
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