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pinkcamo1000I don't think people who ride pivots actually hate on other bindings very much, we just really like pivots
I just hate how every other binding isn’t durable and pivots have a short ass mounting zone. Other bindings don’t have those which is why I actually fucking hate every other binding lol.
weastcoatI just hate how every other binding isn’t durable and pivots have a short ass mounting zone. Other bindings don’t have those which is why I actually fucking hate every other binding lol.
I stand corrected I guess. I've had pretty good experiences with the durability but there are plenty of stories of people breaking them too, honestly I think the durability thing is overhyped
pinkcamo1000I stand corrected I guess. I've had pretty good experiences with the durability but there are plenty of stories of people breaking them too, honestly I think the durability thing is overhyped
You’re not wrong. The only thing I’ve seen go wrong is the heelplate ring will snap off where it’s bent at a 90 degree angle and attaches to the black cylinder arm. You can usually prevent this though by just making sure it’s not cracked in the first place.
the brakes thing isn’t really a valid debate. Literally all ski bindings have relatively the same brake durability. If you eject switch you’re gonna fuck your brakes up. At least with pivots they just bend, attacks and griffins they just snap completely off the binding.
weastcoatYou’re not wrong. The only thing I’ve seen go wrong is the heelplate ring will snap off where it’s bent at a 90 degree angle and attaches to the black cylinder arm. You can usually prevent this though by just making sure it’s not cracked in the first place.
the brakes thing isn’t really a valid debate. Literally all ski bindings have relatively the same brake durability. If you eject switch you’re gonna fuck your brakes up. At least with pivots they just bend, attacks and griffins they just snap completely off the binding.
It's not that pivot brakes break easier, it's that they are a pain in the ass to replace
pinkcamo1000I stand corrected I guess. I've had pretty good experiences with the durability but there are plenty of stories of people breaking them too, honestly I think the durability thing is overhyped
I’m my limited experience pivots hold up better than other bindings. I snapped the heel piece off of my newer griffons but my older pivots are still intact
hdubsI’m my limited experience pivots hold up better than other bindings. I snapped the heel piece off of my newer griffons but my older pivots are still intact
I agree 100% that's why I have 4 pairs lol, one of the sets I have is probably 15+ years old and it still works decent. I think people interpret "durable" as indestructible sometimes, its the same thing with on3ps. they're for sure more durable but you can still break them
pinkcamo1000I agree 100% that's why I have 4 pairs lol, one of the sets I have is probably 15+ years old and it still works decent. I think people interpret "durable" as indestructible sometimes, its the same thing with on3ps. they're for sure more durable but you can still break them
yeah especially the 15 and 18 cuz of the metal. nothing against plastic bindings but it makes sense that a metal housed binding would be more durable most of the time
SlitherySnakeyeah especially the 15 and 18 cuz of the metal. nothing against plastic bindings but it makes sense that a metal housed binding would be more durable most of the time
bought my first pair of 14s this season, I'm still not convinced that the plastic toe is good to go but I thought I should stop being such a hardo and give it a try
SlitherySnakeyeah especially the 15 and 18 cuz of the metal. nothing against plastic bindings but it makes sense that a metal housed binding would be more durable most of the time
Makes me wonder why tyrolia and marker haven't dabled with metal
Finally got over to my friends house to see his Vs in the flesh… holy shit the swing weight on these is freakishly light. I Cannot wait for mine to get here. Boutta spin to win this year
hi_vis360bought my first pair of 14s this season, I'm still not convinced that the plastic toe is good to go but I thought I should stop being such a hardo and give it a try
Toe works fine. I have 120+ days on them skiing everything from grass to cliffs to the streets. No issues yet.
hunternay_10Have you skied wet plus’ before? How much stiffer are they than wets?
Only took a few runs on them so far, first day out since tearing my ACL 2 years ago so can’t really say much about them as I was taking it easy. Will let you know how they compare to regular wets when my wife gets hers
Nuno812Only took a few runs on them so far, first day out since tearing my ACL 2 years ago so can’t really say much about them as I was taking it easy. Will let you know how they compare to regular wets when my wife gets hers
Its good you got out for a bit! I too am curious what you find comparing them. Congratulations to your lady getting new skis too!
already put these in pylp but these beauties came in today
had to mock up my bindings and boots too to check the swag levels, needless to say I am greatly satisfied by the level of swag that this setup should be capable of producing
Don't think there are any bugs in the thread so thought I'd add.
Anyone who's skied the new ones yet know if the metal in the tip and tail are gonna help?
