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Demo bindings on twin tips: bad idea?

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mochimochi
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I'm thinking of mounting Attack 13 demo bindings on my twin tips. I don't plan to go super hard on them. Smaller jumps no more than 3s, butters, probably no rails but that I don't want to completely rule it out yet. In general, not super aggressive. I'm an intermediate 6ft/150lb skier so my DIN settings aren't that high anyway. However, with more moving parts, I'm concerned the demo bindings will have more points of failure.

The reason I want demo bindings is because I'm not sure if I want them center mounted and that I may go back and forth as I try them out. Another reason is if I were to ski some light powder, I can move the bindings back.
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CatdickBojangles
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Besides the longer mounting track you don't have much to worry about. I have a pair of Sakanas with Griffon demos on them (came on the skis when I bought them) and have not had issues with them, I even use daymakers with them for tours.
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SofaKingSick
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i and other people seem to have great experience with attack demos. personally i haven't heard any horror stories and the adjustability can be really nice in some cases (i liked them because friends could borrow the skis regardless of boot size)
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3mania
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Except being slightly higher off the ski doubt you'll even notice the difference.
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CatdickBojangles
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3maniaExcept being slightly higher off the ski doubt you'll even notice the difference.


I’m 99% sure the stack height is the same on demos or regular bindings.
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3mania
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CatdickBojanglesI’m 99% sure the stack height is the same on demos or regular bindings.


yeah, i was just comparing them to my Pivots, never really measured against a reg pair of non demo's
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CatdickBojangles
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3maniayeah, i was just comparing them to my Pivots, never really measured against a reg pair of non demo's


I’m also pretty sure attacks have lower stack height than pivots too.
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3mania
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CatdickBojanglesI’m also pretty sure attacks have lower stack height than pivots too.


not on the demo's that I've got
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3mania
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CatdickBojanglesI’m also pretty sure attacks have lower stack height than pivots too.






It's about half the stack of the demo binders
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Greg_K
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Attack demo bindings are in the 32/33mm heel height range vs 17mm on the non demo version or 19mm on a Pivot heel. Weight is almost 500gr heavier on the Attack2 13 demo binding per pair vs the non demo and demo bindings can have longer mounting templates that can effect a ski’s natural flex.

If you know a suitable mounting point already based on the manufacture’s recommendation combined with the skier’s usage/preference and you aren’t sharing those skis with others, a non demo binding is usually the way to go.
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3mania
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Greg_KAttack demo bindings are in the 32/33mm heel height range vs 17mm on the non demo version or 19mm on a Pivot heel. Weight is almost 500gr heavier on the Attack2 13 demo binding per pair vs the non demo and demo bindings can have longer mounting templates that can effect a ski’s natural flex.

If you know a suitable mounting point already based on the manufacture’s recommendation combined with the skier’s usage/preference and you aren’t sharing those skis with others, a non demo binding is usually the way to go.


Thanks for the actual numbers there. I think i attract contrarians that just want to tell me how wrong I am. 32mm vs. 17mm is pretty substantial, but i didn't really notice it as much as I thought i would. You're def right about the mounting plate on the demos effecting the ski flex though.
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elm.
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I had a pair of demo bindings rip out of my skis once. I think demo bindings are slightly weaker and have more possibility of breaking, but only slightly.

Also they definitely mess with the skis natural flex, like a frame AT binding
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piss.boy
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had a friend that rode a pair last year, he skied pretty hard so you should be good, although I am not a fan of the adjustment system on attacks in general
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skiP.E.I.
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If you can get bindings that aren't demos, do it. I used demo bindings for a few weeks once and I found they would sometimes move on the track. They ended up breaking pretty quickly too. I had to double check the forward pressure and make sure they were adjusted properly every time I put the skis on.
What skis are you using? Usually factory center will be a good mount point for playful all mountain skiing.
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