"Mount Bohemia attempts buisness suicide " Says Vail Resorts Management for offering $20hr lift operator pay.

BrightFrogabsolutely idiotic. Very sad that Boho did this. This is effectively more pay than an ok paying office job in an expensive market. You can live in the UP for practically nothing.

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CLQConservatives want to be victims so fucking bad

BrightFrogok but take this in context. Boho managers introduce “lifetime” season passes knowing full well boho will not last for 75 years. Also raise minimum wage. Their season passes are cheap for a reason; they bank on you not going because it’s so hard to get to. They also want cash now, and locals and downstaters respond well to the novelty of a multi year pass. Now they’ve frontloaded all the revenue from the die-Hards, and they are upping wage expense. Snow-making will have to be added in the next couple years too and increased as the resort goes into decline. This is a stupid business.

And just as a caveat; I’m not guessing, nor is this political. I worked in Lac la Belle and have lived in upper mi for years. I’m fine with Boho expanding and even building condos and gondolas. But the cash flow doesn’t work. The only rational explanation I have is that owners are trying to pump cash and make it attractive to sell to a vail or alterra, especially with all the press boho has been getting over the last couple years.

SlitherySnakevail is a bunch of douchebags

bohemia is doing right by lifties

50KalGood, I hope all the office drones of the Upper Michigan quit their office jobs and become lift operators.

LonelyLonnie doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to not bankrupting businesses. Although I'm not seeing this terrible decline that is going to happen in the next 2 years because of this that you're talking about.

I've been skiing boho for 5 years. Their operating costs are low. Compared to literally any other resort in the country, they are pretty much nothing. They sell an absolutely insane amount of passes given the location, and part of the reason why they are able to is because they are designed for people that could only ski boho 1 or 2 days. Or not at all. A 100$ boho pass gets you like $900 dollars worth of free days at resorts out west. Like mission ridge, targhee, etc. I've met people from all over the place that have bought the boho pass but have never skied there.

If lonnie wants to introduce a lifetime pass, and people are stupid enough to buy it, that sounds like smart business. Or would you rather boho raises the price from 100$ to $800 like many other resorts?

They sell an increasing amount of season passes every year, their operating costs are next to nothing, and now as a result they can afford to pay people 20$ an hour in the keweenaw, which would be the equivalent of 30$ an hour in vail given how cheap living expenses are up here. I mean, you can buy a decent 3 bedroom house up here for 50k.

And also, to my knowledge, vail wouldn't touch boho with a 10ft pole. No infrastructure in the area, more than 6 hours away from any major population center, crazy property lines/ easements/ nearby protected wildlife areas, and while a lot of people go to boho, it's not even close to any downstate 300ft hill like Boyne or nubs. Unless Lonnie plans on building an airport, boho is extremely unattractive to someplace like vail.

And also, I'm not some boho dickrider. I love the place but you could ask lonnie, look at my articles, or go through most of their insta posts and see how I'm usually nothing but critical of them.

this just seems like a stupid take

**This post was edited on Aug 22nd 2021 at 2:02:59pm

LonelyYou tend to not see lifties killing it with nunchuks while blasting classical music at vail

BiffbarfMan, if you can get a 3bdrm house for 50k, 20/hr in the UP would be more like 200/hr in vail lmao maybe not even. Small condos go upward of a milli I think. The housing market in CO is hardfucked.

DesertStixDoes this happen at mt Bohemia?

LonelyYes. Forget his name. He's a legend.


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1009062/Mount-Bohemia-TV-episode-1



Boho skiing-5:15

Nunchuk guy...unfortunately not nunchuking but I think you can get his vibes-8:55

Pretty sure one of the episodes has his nunchuk performance but I'm to lazy to click through all of the episodes about lonnies ex wife to find it

**This post was edited on Aug 22nd 2021 at 3:32:51pm

DesertStixWtf did I just watch lmao I have never been more interested in going to Michigan in my life

BiffbarfMan, if you can get a 3bdrm house for 50k, 20/hr in the UP would be more like 200/hr in vail lmao maybe not even. Small condos go upward of a milli I think. The housing market in CO is hardfucked.

LonelyIf you ever come to boho let me know. I'll buy you a beer and show you where it is deeper.

DesertStixFor sure. Is it really 6 hours to the closest metro area? That’s pretty serious

Way*MoYou cannot get a 3bdrm built after 1950 that is not about to fall down for anything close to 50k now. Work from home pandemic fallout even reached the nether regions of the UP.

LonelyYeah, the closest "big city" is Minneapolis which is about 7 hours away. Greenbay and Duluth are both about 5 hours away

DesertStixDamn I bet that means it never gets too crowded though

Michigan_Sucks*laughs in mlk weekend*
You can't even see the lift

Michigan_Sucks*laughs in mlk weekend*
You can't even see the lift

50Kal" Good luck " says Vail Resorts Management representative (VRM). "Clearly, the overhead at Mount Bohemia puts the people who work for them above the shareholders they would be representing if they were publicly traded. "We at VRM don't understand this concept or how anyone could make such an insane business decision".

Locals rejoice in the idea that they will actually make a livable wage this winter ski season instead of just getting by off of "sucking on the government unemployment like a bunch of fresh water lampreys" says one local.

In the Instagram post from Mount Bohemia screenshoted below, Mount Bohemia this season will be offering $20hr for Lift Operators, food service, and housekeeping. Bartenders will make $15hr plus tips.
With the amount stoke and happiness being spread from happy workers onto guest, business analyst suggest bartenders could see "a fuck ton more money than $15hr with that kind of stoke around".

Other factors for business analyst are taking into consideration for the windfall of cash that Mount Bohemia are about receive:
A $99 Season pass ($162 for a consecutive two season pass).
Long term reputation of being one of the most Gnarly ski resorts EAST of the Mississippi.
And many other factors that locals don't want you knowing about.

Ski bums across North America rejoice and pray to Odin that this business concept of a "livable wage for workers" will be as contagious as the Delta Variant of COVID in America and infects all ski resort business models in North America.

"Hopefully, they fail spectacularly and it crushes the notion to any ski resort about the possibility of a profitable recreation business. It's about the property value and making money. Not the people or activities." Says VRM representative.






This is 100% positively satirical*.

*(Except the Delta Covid part. Its really bad cause you didn't get your vaxx.)

CrunnchyVanManI think Boho’s business platform is just to meme off resort culture and fuck all to traditional resort business practices and somehow it works out good enough for them to stay open

r00kieNo other ski resort could away with what Boho does and its equally hilarious and tacky. Their social media tactics are super cringy, pretty much trolling people into a an argument in the comments, only invest in pools and hot tubs while the little infrastructure for skiing barely keeps operating, the lifetime season pass is bait and no other resort would be willing to try it. Its a weird little place and thats why a lot of people love it. I'm sure I'll find myself back there eventually.

DesertStixDamn I bet that means it never gets too crowded though

r00kieNo other ski resort could away with what Boho does and its equally hilarious and tacky. Their social media tactics are super cringy, pretty much trolling people into a an argument in the comments, only invest in pools and hot tubs while the little infrastructure for skiing barely keeps operating, the lifetime season pass is bait and no other resort would be willing to try it. Its a weird little place and thats why a lot of people love it. I'm sure I'll find myself back there eventually.

r00kieNo other ski resort could away with what Boho does and its equally hilarious and tacky. Their social media tactics are super cringy, pretty much trolling people into a an argument in the comments, only invest in pools and hot tubs while the little infrastructure for skiing barely keeps operating, the lifetime season pass is bait and no other resort would be willing to try it. Its a weird little place and thats why a lot of people love it. I'm sure I'll find myself back there eventually.

LonelyIt's gotten pretty bad...the terrain itself doesn't get crowded...but with only two slow double chairs to service all that terrain the line get's pretty long. So business guru lonnie created the fast pass which was...controversial. Basically, a more expensive season pass that gives you your own special line.

DesertStixHow much skiable terrain is it compared to a mountain in the Rockies?