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KA-47
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Here we go again,

The CDC and the government let us have our fun for the summer, now we have to muzzle ourselves and the children again. The media talks about cases but rarely touches upon deaths. I thought that from the beginning of the vaccination campaign that people understood that the vaccine would lessen the symptoms of Covid but not necessarily deter it. Why are people getting all freaked out about cases!? We should be focusing on death rate and treating the cases.

Yes, more people need to get vaccinated.

I do not think the government has the right to mandate it, but if they do, so be it. People will not be happy with it.

We should NOT be masking children as their case rate, transmission rate, and mortality rate are next to nothing. At this point it is just political theatre to mask them. And I do not see how the CDC made the decision to lift the mask mandate in May, but now it is crucial.

It is all a mess and I feel bad for our kids that have to keep living through this. The blame is not on Trump voters, there are plenty of people in blue areas not getting vaccinated.

I do not know the solution, but it all feels very wrong.
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Jul 28 2021 2:00AM
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T.L.
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CeleryFuck the unvaxxed highschool kids, they made their choice. They had the option and it is no longer our job to protect them.


**This post was edited on Jul 30th 2021 at 10:30:08pm


It was never your job to try and protect people. Who do you think you are, a fuckin Avenger?
Jul 30 2021 11:02PM
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Casey
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Asking this generally:

what do you think about infants? Because I have one of those, kids Under 1 are at high risk for severe illness- my wife and I are both vaccinated but the delta variant- or even regular Covid poses a risk that we can transmit the disease to our baby. Fortunately over 90 percent of my zip code is vaccinated but just out of precaution we don’t go around our red state friends that are making a point out of holding out, just stupid really-
Jul 31 2021 1:41AM
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T.L.
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What happened to the OG covid thread? Did xi ask the mods to delete it?
Jul 31 2021 10:43AM
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steeze_louise
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at this rate more people are going to die in a war trying to get our freedom back that be killed by the coronavirus. the threat of an authoritarian power grab has far surpassed any "threat" of covid.
Jul 31 2021 11:24AM
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ASSholebomber22
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T.L.What happened to the OG covid thread? Did xi ask the mods to delete it?


I wish it was still around. Would've been a treasure trove.
Jul 31 2021 11:29AM
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skierman
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steeze_louiseat this rate more people are going to die in a war trying to get our freedom back that be killed by the coronavirus. the threat of an authoritarian power grab has far surpassed any "threat" of covid.


Nothing screams "weak-ass snowflake" more than equating wearing a mask to losing your freedoms.
Jul 31 2021 12:24PM
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GayWolf420
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CaseyAsking this generally:

what do you think about infants? Because I have one of those, kids Under 1 are at high risk for severe illness- my wife and I are both vaccinated but the delta variant- or even regular Covid poses a risk that we can transmit the disease to our baby. Fortunately over 90 percent of my zip code is vaccinated but just out of precaution we don’t go around our red state friends that are making a point out of holding out, just stupid really-

Its your decision really. If you feel its best to protect your family in any way you can, then by all means feel free to do so. Its interesting how bothered people are by people just looking out for the safety and well being of their own families and others but it is what it is I guess.
Jul 31 2021 12:29PM
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T.L.
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skiermanNothing screams "weak-ass snowflake" more than equating wearing a mask to losing your freedoms.


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Jul 31 2021 1:42PM
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SuspiciousFish
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CaseyAsking this generally:

what do you think about infants? Because I have one of those, kids Under 1 are at high risk for severe illness- my wife and I are both vaccinated but the delta variant- or even regular Covid poses a risk that we can transmit the disease to our baby. Fortunately over 90 percent of my zip code is vaccinated but just out of precaution we don’t go around our red state friends that are making a point out of holding out, just stupid really-


My family got COVID a few months ago and I have a 4 year old and a 2 month old. Both my kids got a 102 fever for about 6 hours then went to bed and were 100% fine the next day. It actually made it hard because my Wife and I felt like shit and the kids were running around. I dont know about infants specifically but the disease appears to be very mild in small children.
Jul 31 2021 2:01PM
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T.L.
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Sounds like we're getting locked down again as soon as next week. I'd bet the panic this time is going to be worse.
Aug 2 2021 2:39PM
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ASSholebomber22
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T.L.Sounds like we're getting locked down again as soon as next week. I'd bet the panic this time is going to be worse.


If we all just do our part and lock down for a few weeks, we will stop the spread. Remember, we are all in this together!
Aug 2 2021 2:56PM
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KA-47
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BiffbarfIf we all just do our part and lock down for a few weeks, we will stop the spread. Remember, we are all in this together!


Yea lockdowns worked great last time!
Aug 2 2021 3:38PM
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Casey
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SuspiciousFishMy family got COVID a few months ago and I have a 4 year old and a 2 month old. Both my kids got a 102 fever for about 6 hours then went to bed and were 100% fine the next day. It actually made it hard because my Wife and I felt like shit and the kids were running around. I dont know about infants specifically but the disease appears to be very mild in small children.

I’m not so much worried about my 3 year getting acutely I’ll, it’s just the unknowns of long term complications- which I understand are also uncommon but it does happen. The baby is pretty high risk until age 1 is more or less what I’ve been reading, but it’s just something you don’t want your kids to go through if you can help it.



Mostly I am just pussy because I have been telecommuting full time for the last 15 months and now my office is all fucking gung ho to get in person work back to normal so it’s being required that I go back even though our mask policies are tightening and case loads are going up. I hate my job and I want to quit.
Aug 2 2021 3:50PM
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FrysNation
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KA-47I completely agree! By their new metrics we will need to wear them forever. Also, when/if they lift the mask mandate they will look like complete fools. My guess is that this is just a push to approve the vaccine for children 12 and under and to additionally sell the third/fourth round of vaccines..."If you get the booster you can take off the mask"...

And then the cycle of selling/coercing the public will begin again.

Simply terrible communication.



vaccines are free to the public at least in U.S.
Aug 2 2021 4:56PM
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eheath
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FrysNationvaccines are free to the public at least in U.S.


Doesn't mean someone isn't paying for it, IE the government which is taxes. Its like how "healthcare is free in canada" when in reality their citizens are paying for it via taxes.

His point was people will continue to make money off of vaccines, but I disagree with him that the entire thing is a racket..
Aug 2 2021 4:58PM
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T.L.
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eheathDoesn't mean someone isn't paying for it, IE the government which is taxes. Its like how "healthcare is free in canada" when in reality their citizens are paying for it via taxes.

His point was people will continue to make money off of vaccines, but I disagree with him that the entire thing is a racket..


Just get a 3rd shot.

Looks like we're going to need a 4th shot guys.

5th shot is gonna be required to keep from locking down a 4th time

The 6th shot will totally do it this time, I swear.

People are going to be taking these shots until the end of time.
Aug 2 2021 9:08PM
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abar.
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T.L.Just get a 3rd shot.

Looks like we're going to need a 4th shot guys.

5th shot is gonna be required to keep from locking down a 4th time

The 6th shot will totally do it this time, I swear.

People are going to be taking these shots until the end of time.


Do you not get a flu shot every year?

It is perfectly normal for a infectious virus that mutates a ton to require repeat vaccinations, no conspiracy there. Also antibodies decline over time
Aug 2 2021 9:22PM
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eheath
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T.L.Just get a 3rd shot.

Looks like we're going to need a 4th shot guys.

5th shot is gonna be required to keep from locking down a 4th time

The 6th shot will totally do it this time, I swear.

People are going to be taking these shots until the end of time.


Apparently you've never heard of a flu shot.
Aug 2 2021 9:51PM
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mrk127
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T.L.Just get a 3rd shot.

Looks like we're going to need a 4th shot guys.

5th shot is gonna be required to keep from locking down a 4th time

The 6th shot will totally do it this time, I swear.

People are going to be taking these shots until the end of time.


I think he probably failed HS biology
Aug 2 2021 9:52PM
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T.L.
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abar.Do you not get a flu shot every year?

It is perfectly normal for a infectious virus that mutates a ton to require repeat vaccinations, no conspiracy there. Also antibodies decline over time


No I've never had a flu shot in my life.
Aug 2 2021 10:19PM
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T.L.
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eheathApparently you've never heard of a flu shot.


Literally never.
Aug 2 2021 10:19PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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T.L.Just get a 3rd shot.

Looks like we're going to need a 4th shot guys.

5th shot is gonna be required to keep from locking down a 4th time

The 6th shot will totally do it this time, I swear.

People are going to be taking these shots until the end of time.


You mean like the flu shot?

Not sure what the big issue is with getting a shot these days. Walk into a pharmacy, present info for appointment, get the shot, walk out 15-20 minutes later, max.

I get the flu shot every year because 3/4 of my immediate family members are immunocompromised. It's not a big inconvenience at all. I'd much rather get the shot than be responsible for putting a family member in the hospital because I'm too fucking lazy to get it.

**This post was edited on Aug 2nd 2021 at 10:46:30pm
Aug 2 2021 10:42PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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T.L.Sounds like we're getting locked down again as soon as next week. I'd bet the panic this time is going to be worse.


I thought this was all going to be over once Trump was out of office because it was a big Dem hoax. I recall several posters here positing such a position...
Aug 2 2021 10:48PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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.MASSHOLE.You mean like the flu shot?

Not sure what the big issue is with getting a shot these days. Walk into a pharmacy, present info for appointment, get the shot, walk out 15-20 minutes later, max.

I get the flu shot every year because 3/4 of my immediate family members are immunocompromised. It's not a big inconvenience at all. I'd much rather get the shot than be responsible for putting a family member in the hospital because I'm too fucking lazy to get it.

**This post was edited on Aug 2nd 2021 at 10:46:30pm


I’ll start by saying I’m vaccinated. But saying “I’m too lazy to get the shot” is such a dumb statement. Bro, it’s literally a persons choice. Just like it’s a woman’s choice to get an abortion or not. If someone doesn’t want to get a vaccine that doesn’t make them lazy or a bad person. Fuck off.

**This post was edited on Aug 2nd 2021 at 11:43:32pm
Aug 2 2021 11:42PM
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mrk127
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Charlie_KellyI’ll start by saying I’m vaccinated. But saying “I’m too lazy to get the shot” is such a dumb statement. Bro, it’s literally a persons choice. Just like it’s a woman’s choice to get an abortion or not. If someone doesn’t want to get a vaccine that doesn’t make them lazy or a bad person. Fuck off.

**This post was edited on Aug 2nd 2021 at 11:43:32pm


A woman getting an abortion is a decision that affects a very small group of people. Not getting vaccinated affects society as a whole and just delays everything from true normal
Aug 2 2021 11:48PM
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skierman_jack
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public health is now a political debate. Actually tragic

go do your own research and talk to your doctor about whats best for you. Make up your mind and don’t let anyone serve you their truth. I am personally not fond of vaccines. I do not think they are natural whatsoever. I did my research and came to the conclusion that I should get my Covid vaccine. It was simple and easy.

I wear a mask when I am asked, but choose not to otherwise. It’s not a problem to me. I simply don’t care. It’s not tyranny, it’s not ignorance. It’s just being a normal human being
Aug 2 2021 11:59PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Charlie_KellyI’ll start by saying I’m vaccinated. But saying “I’m too lazy to get the shot” is such a dumb statement. Bro, it’s literally a persons choice. Just like it’s a woman’s choice to get an abortion or not. If someone doesn’t want to get a vaccine that doesn’t make them lazy or a bad person. Fuck off.

**This post was edited on Aug 2nd 2021 at 11:43:32pm


See, if I had said that about the COVID vaccine, I'd agree with you. It hasn't been out that long, some people don't understand the science behind it, there's a whole boatload of misinformation out there, the list of reasons people don't want it go on and on. But I didn't. I said that about the flu vaccine. The flu vaccine has been around decades with proven efficacy and has been shown to massively reduce the # of infections.

The whole post I quoted was complaining about having to get a vaccine every year. To me, that sounds like being lazy.

But GTFO comparing abortions and vaccines. Not even close to being similar. Vaccines are usually given to protect the thousands, if not millions, of people beyond the person being vaccinated. An abortion really is affecting 2 or 3 people, depending on whether or not you view a preterm fetus as a living thing.

**This post was edited on Aug 3rd 2021 at 7:56:53am
Aug 3 2021 7:55AM
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skierman
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eheath"healthcare is free in canada" when in reality their citizens are paying for it via taxes.


No one says that. Everyone in Canada is pretty fucking aware the healthcare isn't free.
Aug 3 2021 8:24AM
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T.L.
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.MASSHOLE.You mean like the flu shot?

Not sure what the big issue is with getting a shot these days. Walk into a pharmacy, present info for appointment, get the shot, walk out 15-20 minutes later, max.

I get the flu shot every year because 3/4 of my immediate family members are immunocompromised. It's not a big inconvenience at all. I'd much rather get the shot than be responsible for putting a family member in the hospital because I'm too fucking lazy to get it.

**This post was edited on Aug 2nd 2021 at 10:46:30pm


The regular old flu shot isn't advertised as a vaccine and propagandized as a pathway to normalcy by a government that takes more power than it gives back.

Congratulations on doing what YOU feel like you need to do in order to keep your family safe. You're free to do so, always have been, and always will be... as long as you're not inflicting your will on other people.

You're free to get all the shots you want, you're all free to wear as many masks as you want and anywhere you like. Just leave me out of it.

I'll never succumb to these faux guilt trips about 'muuuh other peeples healths' because it's never mattered before and it still doesn't matter for anyone or anything else... except covid and people who don't want or need a shot.

No amount of soapbox superhero larping will ever convince me to take a series of injections because geriatric government officials on the TV tell me to. It doesn't have anything to do with inconvenience, laziness, science denying, republican worship, "conspiracy theories"... none of it. Donald Trump, fauci, and biden could show up on my doorstep and beg me to take it and I still wouldn't. I just don't care about the cult of covid.

I will join the cult of covid and I will prostrate at the feet of Herr Fauci under these specific circumstances:

- If I see bodies in the street of people with zero comorbidities.
Aug 3 2021 10:16AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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T.L.I'll never succumb to these faux guilt trips about 'muuuh other peeples healths' because it's never mattered before and it still doesn't matter for anyone or anything else... except covid and people who don't want or need a shot.


That's why you've almost certainly gotten DTaP,/Tdap HiB, IPB, PCV13, MMR, MenACWY, and potentially VAR and HPV vaccines in your life time right?

**This post was edited on Aug 3rd 2021 at 10:28:09am
Aug 3 2021 10:26AM
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AndrewGravesSV
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T.L.The regular old flu shot isn't advertised as a vaccine and propagandized as a pathway to normalcy by a government that takes more power than it gives back.

Congratulations on doing what YOU feel like you need to do in order to keep your family safe. You're free to do so, always have been, and always will be... as long as you're not inflicting your will on other people.

You're free to get all the shots you want, you're all free to wear as many masks as you want and anywhere you like. Just leave me out of it.

I'll never succumb to these faux guilt trips about 'muuuh other peeples healths' because it's never mattered before and it still doesn't matter for anyone or anything else... except covid and people who don't want or need a shot.

No amount of soapbox superhero larping will ever convince me to take a series of injections because geriatric government officials on the TV tell me to. It doesn't have anything to do with inconvenience, laziness, science denying, republican worship, "conspiracy theories"... none of it. Donald Trump, fauci, and biden could show up on my doorstep and beg me to take it and I still wouldn't. I just don't care about the cult of covid.

I will join the cult of covid and I will prostrate at the feet of Herr Fauci under these specific circumstances:

- If I see bodies in the street of people with zero comorbidities.


bro you're trying way too hard to be an independent freethinker and its just pretty selfish. I know I or anyone else can't force you to get a free vaccine but its pretty disrespectful to the 600,000+ Americans who have died and the millions more worldwide. Its privileged as fuck to refuse medicine that isn't available to the vast majority of the world because our government used our taxes to buy them. I'd love to see those get distributed instead of going to waste so people can attempt to prove they aren't sheep.
Aug 3 2021 11:25AM
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MiIfHunter
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As a staunch advocate of condom politics, WEAR A CONDOM!!!!!!
Aug 3 2021 11:29AM
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T.L.
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.MASSHOLE.That's why you've almost certainly gotten DTaP,/Tdap HiB, IPB, PCV13, MMR, MenACWY, and potentially VAR and HPV vaccines in your life time right?

**This post was edited on Aug 3rd 2021 at 10:28:09am


I'm not talking about traditional vaccines that are fully FDA approved have decades of data and proven results behind them. I'm talking about the fact that other people's health and life choices have never mattered to other people until now. Any time there's been a societal shift in peoples health habits the 'big ask' so to speak has been centered around not doing something that's affecting their health.

You shouldn't smoke, you shouldn't drink so much, you shouldn't eat so much junk food, you should exercise more, you shouldn't do drugs, you should protect yourself if you slap cheeks with randoms, etc... Those are behavior CHOICES.

Until now it's never been a demand that you add something to your body or your biological makeup in order to go grocery shopping.

This is all new and you know it. The overton window has shifted dramatically in a short period of time with the specific intention of invasive demands and overreaches by the government and you know it.

**This post was edited on Aug 3rd 2021 at 12:33:52pm
Aug 3 2021 12:30PM
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T.L.
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AndrewGravesSVbro you're trying way too hard to be an independent freethinker and its just pretty selfish. I know I or anyone else can't force you to get a free vaccine but its pretty disrespectful to the 600,000+ Americans who have died and the millions more worldwide. Its privileged as fuck to refuse medicine that isn't available to the vast majority of the world because our government used our taxes to buy them. I'd love to see those get distributed instead of going to waste so people can attempt to prove they aren't sheep.


I just said I won't be guilt tripped by dumb dumbs and then you type out a guilt trip like a dumb dumb.
Aug 3 2021 12:32PM
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eheath
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skiermanNo one says that. Everyone in Canada is pretty fucking aware the healthcare isn't free.


9 out of 10 canadian brags about free healthcare in my experience
Aug 3 2021 12:45PM
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Film.
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T.L.The regular old flu shot isn't advertised as a vaccine and propagandized as a pathway to normalcy by a government that takes more power than it gives back.

Congratulations on doing what YOU feel like you need to do in order to keep your family safe. You're free to do so, always have been, and always will be... as long as you're not inflicting your will on other people.

You're free to get all the shots you want, you're all free to wear as many masks as you want and anywhere you like. Just leave me out of it.

I'll never succumb to these faux guilt trips about 'muuuh other peeples healths' because it's never mattered before and it still doesn't matter for anyone or anything else... except covid and people who don't want or need a shot.

No amount of soapbox superhero larping will ever convince me to take a series of injections because geriatric government officials on the TV tell me to. It doesn't have anything to do with inconvenience, laziness, science denying, republican worship, "conspiracy theories"... none of it. Donald Trump, fauci, and biden could show up on my doorstep and beg me to take it and I still wouldn't. I just don't care about the cult of covid.

I will join the cult of covid and I will prostrate at the feet of Herr Fauci under these specific circumstances:

- If I see bodies in the street of people with zero comorbidities.

You have never needed to get the flu shot to enter indoor businesses either mandated by cities.
This is now a thing in NYC

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/03/nycs-de-blasio-mandates-vaccines-for-indoor-activities.html
Aug 3 2021 12:53PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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T.L.This is all new and you know it. The overton window has shifted dramatically in a short period of time with the specific intention of invasive demands and overreaches by the government and you know it.

**This post was edited on Aug 3rd 2021 at 12:33:52pm

No, it's really not.

Want to travel to the foreign countries? Almost certainly need a vaccine for Yellow Fever, Cholera, Typhoid, or other diseases.

Want to come to the US on a green card or to study? Need a whole host of vaccines.

Want to go to a US college? 87.5% require at least 1 vaccine to attend.

Vaccine requirements are NOTHING new.
Aug 3 2021 1:02PM
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AndrewGravesSV
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T.L.I just said I won't be guilt tripped by dumb dumbs and then you type out a guilt trip like a dumb dumb.


Fair enough man it was a weak guilt trip by me.

I'm frustrated that we won't reach herd immunity because of misinformation and distrust of science. It feels like a small thing to me to accept a free vaccine for the good of everyone else. I guess its a way bigger thing for other people but in my mind we're only going to trap ourselves in a never ending loop of masks, variants, and boosters with people getting culled throughout.

Its your choice but you give up your right to complain about it. Unvaxxed people had/have a chance to change the future with regards to this virus but didn't/aren't stepping up. Maybe this sounds guilt trippy too, but its hard not to when the obstacle to herd immunity are people choosing not to reach it
Aug 3 2021 1:06PM
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Film.
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.MASSHOLE.No, it's really not.

Want to travel to the foreign countries? Almost certainly need a vaccine for Yellow Fever, Cholera, Typhoid, or other diseases.

Want to come to the US on a green card or to study? Need a whole host of vaccines.

Want to go to a US college? 87.5% require at least 1 vaccine to attend.

Vaccine requirements are NOTHING new.

To dine in at a restaurant in the city you live in?
Definitely new

**This post was edited on Aug 3rd 2021 at 1:11:51pm
Aug 3 2021 1:09PM
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Film.
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AndrewGravesSVFair enough man it was a weak guilt trip by me.

I'm frustrated that we won't reach herd immunity because of misinformation and distrust of science. It feels like a small thing to me to accept a free vaccine for the good of everyone else. I guess its a way bigger thing for other people but in my mind we're only going to trap ourselves in a never ending loop of masks, variants, and boosters with people getting culled throughout.

Its your choice but you give up your right to complain about it. Unvaxxed people had/have a chance to change the future with regards to this virus but didn't/aren't stepping up. Maybe this sounds guilt trippy too, but its hard not to when the obstacle to herd immunity are people choosing not to reach it

Well we did reach herd immunity. The "scientists" came up with the magical number of 70% immunization and we hit it yesterday, but I'd imagine it'll change to 90% now because moving the goal posts is their favorite thing to do.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/08/02/us-finally-reaches-bidens-70-vaccination-goal-but-these-30-states-still-havent/?sh=14a0b9ed114e
Aug 3 2021 1:14PM
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abar.
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Film.Well we did reach herd immunity. The "scientists" came up with the magical number of 70% immunization and we hit it yesterday, but I'd imagine it'll change to 90% now because moving the goal posts is their favorite thing to do.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/08/02/us-finally-reaches-bidens-70-vaccination-goal-but-these-30-states-still-havent/?sh=14a0b9ed114e


It doesn't matter if the US vaccination rate is 99% as long as some buttfuck county is only at 30%, they will continue to incubate the virus and let it survive and mutate until the vaccine doesn't work anymore.

70% will only work if every single local community is at least at that level, it means nothing on a scale as large as the US
Aug 3 2021 1:24PM
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Film.
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abar.It doesn't matter if the US vaccination rate is 99% as long as some buttfuck county is only at 30%, they will continue to incubate the virus and let it survive and mutate until the vaccine doesn't work anymore.

70% will only work if every single local community is at least at that level, it means nothing on a scale as large as the US

So what you are saying is covid is going to exist in the world forever and because of that we should move on with our lives?
I totally agree with this statement
Aug 3 2021 1:29PM
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AndrewGravesSV
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Film.Well we did reach herd immunity. The "scientists" came up with the magical number of 70% immunization and we hit it yesterday, but I'd imagine it'll change to 90% now because moving the goal posts is their favorite thing to do.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/08/02/us-finally-reaches-bidens-70-vaccination-goal-but-these-30-states-still-havent/?sh=14a0b9ed114e


did you even read the article?

Even in the headline it says 30 states haven't hit 70% and that those states are getting thrashed by Covid. Idk what you think herd immunity is but it should be that 70% of people around you in any place are vaxxed
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AndrewGravesSVdid you even read the article?

Even in the headline it says 30 states haven't hit 70% and that those states are getting thrashed by Covid. Idk what you think herd immunity is but it should be that 70% of people around you in any place are vaxxed

Biden's entire goal was 70% immunization for the entire country not by state. We hit the goal and rather than it being celebrated it's leading to more lockdowns in the places of course with extremely high vaccination rates anyway. So yes dummy I read the article and understood what the white houses actual vaccine goals were, you clearly didn't. We hit them https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/02/us-vaccination-rate-covid-coronavirus-biden-white-house

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Film.Well we did reach herd immunity. The "scientists" came up with the magical number of 70% immunization and we hit it yesterday, but I'd imagine it'll change to 90% now because moving the goal posts is their favorite thing to do.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/08/02/us-finally-reaches-bidens-70-vaccination-goal-but-these-30-states-still-havent/?sh=14a0b9ed114e


Herd immunity changes depending on the transmission rate.


A higher R0 requires a higher vaccination rate. It shouldn’t be surprising with the Delta variant that the requirement for herd immunity changes as well.


This isn’t some random number they came up with and decided to change on a whim.
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Film.To dine in at a restaurant in the city you live in?
Definitely new

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Oakland, San Francisco, St. Louis, LA, Tucson, Denver, and Indianapolis in 1918 had NYC beat by about 103 years.
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.MASSHOLE.Oakland, San Francisco, St. Louis, LA, Tucson, Denver, and Indianapolis in 1918 had NYC beat by about 103 years.

Oh shit my bad dude, totally forgot in 1350 London had one too for the Black Plague. Gotta keep up, cause these events were so recent in history we all remember them.
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AndrewGravesSVIts your choice but you give up your right to complain about it.

I don't think I've ever complained about covid itself.

What I'll complain about is how the governments of the world are using it as a way to deliver us into a dystopian/totalitarian nightmare that's there's no peaceful return from.

"Papiere, bitte"
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Film.Biden's entire goal was 70% immunization for the entire country not by state. We hit the goal and rather than it being celebrated it's leading to more lockdowns in the places of course with extremely high vaccination rates anyway. So yes dummy I read the article and understood what the white houses actual vaccine goals were, you clearly didn't. We hit them https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/02/us-vaccination-rate-covid-coronavirus-biden-white-house

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I'm saying just because we hit our admin's stupid national goals doesn't make it so we have herd immunity in practice. Covid is surging and hospitalizing people in states with low vaccine rates, that doesn't sound like success to me. Do you really think that cause we hit 70% nationally that we're in the clear and should celebrate?

Lets remind ourselves the goal here: get rid of the virus so fewer people die. We do that through vaccines and eventual herd immunity like we have done to diseases in the past. Idk how that's controversial
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T.L.I don't think I've ever complained about covid itself.

What I'll complain about is how the governments of the world are using it as a way to deliver us into a dystopian/totalitarian nightmare that's there's no peaceful return from.

"Papiere, bitte"


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