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The same people who have complaining about masks througout this past year have been running there mouth about how the vaccine is gonna do something wacky in there body. What.THe.Heck. JUST GET VAXED take a hit of that madournie and continue your journey
I honestly don't understand how one can still hold a license after doing something like this. She actually has an active medical license. She should be unfit to practice either because psychosis or just because providing harmful recommendations. It's one thing when randos on the internet say nonsense but when trusted members of society do, we have a serious problem. This is outright embarrassing and alarming.
She has a "holistic medicine" practice so I guess we already know she's a bit cookoo
SuspiciousFishThis is a strawman argument. The government has lied and misled the American People since the beginning when they first told us NOT to wear masks then suddenly flipped to putting some cloth on your face. They also silenced anyone who dared speak out that this virus was most certainly created in the Wuhan lab which is now coming to light with very concrete evidence such as the lab workers becoming ill in late 2019.
New emails are showing the Fauci was funding dangerous gain of function research in the US and China despite the fact China's labs had a known history of breaches like when a lab in Beijing leaked SARS twice.
Moderna was all but blacklisted by the scientific community for not sharing any research with peer reviewed journals and manipulating data to get more VC money:
So after the government fucks up doing dangerous research and unleashed a lab created pandemic, they lie to the public on how to manage it, they push experimental mRNA vaccines like Moderna who has never been able to get a product approved by the FDA and would probably have gone bankrupt if their COVID vaccine was not rush approved, they lock down society for the rest of us and dont follow their own guidelines and travel etc anyway and they expect us to trust them all along the way with the carefully crafted narrative they push in front of us.
Yeah fuck that.
God bless you bro thank you for taking time to show them even tho they choose not to listen
LOL REMEMBER WHEN PEOPLE THOUGHT A COUPLE OF CHINESE DUDES EATING BAT SOUP SPREAD A VIRUS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD INSTEAD OF BIG PHARMA PURPOSELY RELEASING IT TO MAKE TRILLIONS OFF IT LOLOLOL.
zuesLOL REMEMBER WHEN PEOPLE THOUGHT A COUPLE OF CHINESE DUDES EATING BAT SOUP SPREAD A VIRUS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD INSTEAD OF BIG PHARMA PURPOSELY RELEASING IT TO MAKE TRILLIONS OFF IT LOLOLOL.
I'm not against or for them, I don't think anyone really is per say. I know in 2019 there was a 2000% increase in vaccine hesitancy and skepticism mostly among Caucasians in the US as evidenced by various studies presented at Davos and the WEF and a 200% decrease in vaccine pro-sentiment feelings. EUA vaccines should never be mandatory and it is against the Nuremberg code to make them mandatory. Also, Doe#1 v. Rumsfeld 297 F. Supp. 2d 119 (2003) holds that the military cannot mandate EUA vaccines for the armed forces. These vaccines are EUA.
Nevertheless, there are a few reasons why people want to wait and I don't fault them nor do I give them the benefit of the doubt but frankly it is their choice; as it is anyone elses to get the jab or jabs of what ever brand your heart desires.
One reason why some people may be holding off is because the the Vaccine industry is the only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products. It would be another matter to put off a jab with 30 plus years of studies on the potential negative side effects and health impacts, if any, but it is a far different matter to be taking an EUA vaccine with no animal trials or long term studies when say you are immuno compromised or have other health problems.
The covid-vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause? I find that terrible and that law must change!
Furthermore, all major vaccine makers (save Moderna) have paid out tens of billions of dollars in damages for other products they brought to market when they knew those products would cause injuries and death--see Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex, Thalidomide, and opioids as a few examples.
Also, though a small minority and becasue of the one-size-fits-all approach, it is only reasonable to conclude that there will be side effects and a very small subset of those who take the jab will die from it due to complications.Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred in some recievers of various vaccines where the immune system produced a "cytokine storm" (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died. In some cases, this cytokine storm led to post-sepsis syndrome where those exposed were stricken with an AID’s like illness, which lowered antibody counts, inducing anergy and immune tolerance/suppression making them more susceptible to all kinds of opportunistic stealth infections.
When vaccine makers submitted their papers to the FDA for the Emergency Use Authorization (Note: An EUA is not the same as a full FDA approval, taking into account that such approval means little these days considering the ever-expanding revolving door the the FDA has with Big-Pharma), among the many "Data Gaps" they reported was that they have nothing in their trials to suggest they overcame that pesky problem of Vaccine Enhanced Disease.
They simply don't know – i.e. they have no idea if the vaccines they've made will also produce the same cytokine storm (and deaths) which commonly induce long-term immune tolerance (ie. seronegativity) and possibly a life of chronic illness as previous attempts at such products have.
If that's not alarming enough, here are other gaps in the data--i.e. there is no data to suggest safety or efficacy regarding:
[/url] Anyone younger than age 18 or older than age 55
[/url] Pregnant or lactating mothers
[/url] Auto-immune conditions
[/url] Immunocompromised individuals (of which a large swath of the population, unknowingly, falls into this category)
[/url] No data on transmission of covid
[/url] No data on preventing mortality from covid
[/url] No data on duration of protection from covid
In case you think I'm making this up, or want to see the actual documents sent to the FDA by Pfizer and Moderna for their Emergency Use Authorization, you can check out this, or this respectively.
The data gaps can be found starting with page 46 and 48.
There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group.”
[/url][/url] Did they fail to do science in their scientific study by not verifying a major variable Could they not test those "suspected but unconfirmed" cases to find out if they had covid? Apparently not. Why not test all 3,410 participants for the sake of accuracy albeit imperfect accuracy considering the inaccuracy of the diagnostics. Thirty years ago, they did something very simialr with lymerix. They openly used an endoxic lipoprotein and injected it into patients to create seronegativity so that they wouldn't test positive; they further falsified their Diagnostics and changed the case defition of the disease so as to get the effective 85% vaccine, which was never a vaccine to begin with. Those responsible should have been thrown in jail or executed but instead they practice still to this day.
Obviously, with products that have only been on the market a few months, we have no long-term safety data. In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now – for ANY population. [/url]Given all the risks above (risks that ALL pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided? Some say the emergency EUA vaccines at this time half to be taken despite any health impacts that may come up down the road. Others are more skeptical and want to wait.Alas, would it not make sense to want to fill those pesky "data gaps" before we try to give this to every man, woman, and child on the planet?
And I don't know if this is true or not but are theseproducts still in clinical trials? Meaning anyone who gets the shot is now part of the clinical trial. They are part of the experiment – a medical experiment per say? I cannot seem to think otherwise but please enlighten me on this. Would not those who don't take it be part of the control group?
And have there ever been any studies done on the vaccines stopping transmission? I know many people who have gotten covid again after getting various vaccine brand jabs.
Now for the next logical question:
[/url]If we're worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?Some say asymptomatic spreaders are almsot non-existent while others say they are a bigger issue then some want to admit.
Expression of the spike protein, which has adverse biological effects of its own (such as anergy and immune tolerance) which, in some people, are harmful (initiating blood coagulation and activating the immune ‘complement system’)makes me again skeptical and being at the other end of another vaccine and the lies and cover-up of Lymerix, I will stay far away from EUA vaccines until they undergo long-term trials.
That's my opinion and you're free to murder me for it.
HypeBeastI honestly don't understand how one can still hold a license after doing something like this. She actually has an active medical license. She should be unfit to practice either because psychosis or just because providing harmful recommendations. It's one thing when randos on the internet say nonsense but when trusted members of society do, we have a serious problem. This is outright embarrassing and alarming.
She has a "holistic medicine" practice so I guess we already know she's a bit cookoo
Yes, and this kind of rhetoric hurts those who do have complications from the vaccines or infection.
zuesLOL REMEMBER WHEN PEOPLE THOUGHT A COUPLE OF CHINESE DUDES EATING BAT SOUP SPREAD A VIRUS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD INSTEAD OF BIG PHARMA PURPOSELY RELEASING IT TO MAKE TRILLIONS OFF IT LOLOLOL.
I mean how can they have patents on coronaviruses if they're not man-made, either way it is illegal to have a patent on a natural virus and illegal if it is some sort of bioweapon which the neocons were screaming about in March of 2020 but blaming China. But what about ECO HEALTH LLC again?
zuesYEA IM SURE IT ONLY TAKES 6 months to WIDELY DISTRIBUTE A VACCINE ACROSS AMERICA AND OBTAIN TRILLIONS IN GOV CONTRACTS
Zeus, why then didn't your pedo boy Trump fire Fauci who has a long history of racketeering in the health industry. In fact, I talked to him on the phone and asked him what OSPA (endotoxic lipo-protein) was that he had invested in which was to be put in the Lymerix vaccine, he literally said, "I have no idea, I don't know what it is." But he did, he lied, he knew it was the agent used to pass their fake vaccine to create a monopoly around the Lyme industry, they failed somewhat due to activists but did they fail with covid?
TOAST.Can somebody explain the "revelations" from the Fauci emails? To me they dont seem at all different than what he was saying publicly.
He was initially said masked weren't effective at keeping you from getting covid, but later recommended wearing masks to keep potentially infected people from spreading it. Doesnt seem to be new info from the FOIA request to me.
"China lies about the origins of covid and the data". Okay what data did they lie about? Initially they tried to ignore the whole thing, is that what is being referred to with the data? Or did they release data making it look worse than it was?
If the virus was released from a wuhan lab, what does this have to do with Fauci?
Generally curious because I haven't really seen a good explanation for any of this.
There was some decent unbiased liberal journalists on twitter looking deeper into it, I can send some links, but it had more to do with ECOHEALTH LLC.
One is an email from Peter Daszak to Fauci thanking him for dismissing the idea of a lab leak as a conspiracy theory and for saying that the "science" supported a natural evolution from bats to humans. A large portion of that email is redacted.
Peter Daszak is the president of EcoHealth Alliance which gave something like $600k to the wuhan lab for gain of function research on viruses.
There was were a few emails that talked about covid looking like it was engineered and one that specifically referred to it as a bioweapon and how it was likely created.
Honestly the whole thing looks shady af.
And now the day after the emails are released fauci's book is being pulled from every retailer before it comes out.
Meanwhile the media is making excuses for him like "He had the weight of the world on his shoulders" and "He was the busiest man in the world for the last year" or, "We can't possibly imagine the burden placed on a hero like him"... but somehow he had time to write a book about such an awesome job he did at misleading people at every turn.
My favorite was Maxmen denying that she ever met or was near Daszak on twitter and started to furiously delete all traces off her social media. Then someone posted an AP photo of her speaking with Daszak, regarding ECOHEALTH and she literally said it was photoshopped. The gaslighting she did was literally so retarded that I can only help to think something is going on here.
One is an email from Peter Daszak to Fauci thanking him for dismissing the idea of a lab leak as a conspiracy theory and for saying that the "science" supported a natural evolution from bats to humans. A large portion of that email is redacted.
Peter Daszak is the president of EcoHealth Alliance which gave something like $600k to the wuhan lab for gain of function research on viruses.
There was were a few emails that talked about covid looking like it was engineered and one that specifically referred to it as a bioweapon and how it was likely created.
Honestly the whole thing looks shady af.
And now the day after the emails are released fauci's book is being pulled from every retailer before it comes out.
Meanwhile the media is making excuses for him like "He had the weight of the world on his shoulders" and "He was the busiest man in the world for the last year" or, "We can't possibly imagine the burden placed on a hero like him"... but somehow he had time to write a book about such an awesome job he did at misleading people at every turn.
At this point I'm down to have another French Revolution. Fauci, Trump before he reruns for Israel; I suppose need to be guillotined but I'm not endorsing that but knowing Fauci's past history and these leaks is mind blowing to me and if nothing comes from it, WTF.
AndrewGravesSVI'm not dismissing the possibility of there being a lab leak and that being the origin or that it was stupid partisan politics that led to it not being looked into seriously enough (Thanks Dems!). At the same time there still isn't much evidence at all and it would've incited a panic if we just accused China of using bioweapons. There was already a big uptick of hate crimes against Asians and it wouldn't have changed our response to it outside of trying to punish and vilify China which they would deny cause there isn't evidence.
The whole suppressing the possibility it being a lab leak is sus as fuck for sure. Fauci has since come out in support of fully investigating it more after the WHO international team's investigation was inconclusive. Idk how this is a huge gotcha moment
EVENT 201 global corona virus simulation in Oct 2019 which promised a stakeholder vaccine revolution had nothing to do with a global corona virus pandemic which happened 5 months later which ushered in a new vaccine revolution; it's not like China's CDC was at the drill or anything. He was... with many of the same vaccine CEO's. Weird.
Again, with Moderna, absolutely nothing there is out of the norm for pharma or biotech.
Big IPO? Sana, a gene therapy company, raised $588mn from it's IPO with ZERO clinical data. AbCellera's IPO raised $483mn and up until a few months before only had deal and collaboration agreements with Big Pharma and DARPA. Part of that DARPA collaboration involved a COVID antibody treatment. Guess who went public soon after with just Phase I data.
Again, that STAT News article is focusing on Ph1 data, they've since released Phase II and Phase III results, with Phase III ending up in NEJM, the best journal besides JAMA.
You clearly know VERY little about the Pharma or Biotech space. Absolutely none of this screams sketchy.
qazwsxedc34I'm not against or for them, I don't think anyone really is per say. I know in 2019 there was a 2000% increase in vaccine hesitancy and skepticism mostly among Caucasians in the US as evidenced by various studies presented at Davos and the WEF and a 200% decrease in vaccine pro-sentiment feelings. EUA vaccines should never be mandatory and it is against the Nuremberg code to make them mandatory. Also, Doe#1 v. Rumsfeld 297 F. Supp. 2d 119 (2003) holds that the military cannot mandate EUA vaccines for the armed forces. These vaccines are EUA.
Nevertheless, there are a few reasons why people want to wait and I don't fault them nor do I give them the benefit of the doubt but frankly it is their choice; as it is anyone elses to get the jab or jabs of what ever brand your heart desires.
One reason why some people may be holding off is because the the Vaccine industry is the only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products. It would be another matter to put off a jab with 30 plus years of studies on the potential negative side effects and health impacts, if any, but it is a far different matter to be taking an EUA vaccine with no animal trials or long term studies when say you are immuno compromised or have other health problems.
The covid-vaccine makers are allowed to create a one-size-fits-all product, with no testing on sub-populations (i.e. people with specific health conditions), and yet they are unwilling to accept any responsibility for any adverse events or deaths their products cause? I find that terrible and that law must change!
Furthermore, all major vaccine makers (save Moderna) have paid out tens of billions of dollars in damages for other products they brought to market when they knew those products would cause injuries and death--see Vioxx, Bextra, Celebrex, Thalidomide, and opioids as a few examples.
Also, though a small minority and becasue of the one-size-fits-all approach, it is only reasonable to conclude that there will be side effects and a very small subset of those who take the jab will die from it due to complications.Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred in some recievers of various vaccines where the immune system produced a "cytokine storm" (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died. In some cases, this cytokine storm led to post-sepsis syndrome where those exposed were stricken with an AID’s like illness, which lowered antibody counts, inducing anergy and immune tolerance/suppression making them more susceptible to all kinds of opportunistic stealth infections.
When vaccine makers submitted their papers to the FDA for the Emergency Use Authorization (Note: An EUA is not the same as a full FDA approval, taking into account that such approval means little these days considering the ever-expanding revolving door the the FDA has with Big-Pharma), among the many "Data Gaps" they reported was that they have nothing in their trials to suggest they overcame that pesky problem of Vaccine Enhanced Disease.
They simply don't know – i.e. they have no idea if the vaccines they've made will also produce the same cytokine storm (and deaths) which commonly induce long-term immune tolerance (ie. seronegativity) and possibly a life of chronic illness as previous attempts at such products have.
If that's not alarming enough, here are other gaps in the data--i.e. there is no data to suggest safety or efficacy regarding:
Anyone younger than age 18 or older than age 55
Pregnant or lactating mothers
Auto-immune conditions
Immunocompromised individuals (of which a large swath of the population, unknowingly, falls into this category)
No data on transmission of covid
No data on preventing mortality from covid
No data on duration of protection from covid
In case you think I'm making this up, or want to see the actual documents sent to the FDA by Pfizer and Moderna for their Emergency Use Authorization, you can check out this, or this respectively.
The data gaps can be found starting with page 46 and 48.
There were “3,410 total cases of suspected, but unconfirmed covid-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1,816 in the placebo group.”
Did they fail to do science in their scientific study by not verifying a major variable Could they not test those "suspected but unconfirmed" cases to find out if they had covid? Apparently not. Why not test all 3,410 participants for the sake of accuracy albeit imperfect accuracy considering the inaccuracy of the diagnostics. Thirty years ago, they did something very simialr with lymerix. They openly used an endoxic lipoprotein and injected it into patients to create seronegativity so that they wouldn't test positive; they further falsified their Diagnostics and changed the case defition of the disease so as to get the effective 85% vaccine, which was never a vaccine to begin with. Those responsible should have been thrown in jail or executed but instead they practice still to this day.
Obviously, with products that have only been on the market a few months, we have no long-term safety data. In other words, we have no idea what this product will do in the body months or years from now – for ANY population. Given all the risks above (risks that ALL pharmaceutical products have), would it not be prudent to wait to see if the worst-case scenarios have indeed been avoided? Some say the emergency EUA vaccines at this time half to be taken despite any health impacts that may come up down the road. Others are more skeptical and want to wait.Alas, would it not make sense to want to fill those pesky "data gaps" before we try to give this to every man, woman, and child on the planet?
And I don't know if this is true or not but are theseproducts still in clinical trials? Meaning anyone who gets the shot is now part of the clinical trial. They are part of the experiment – a medical experiment per say? I cannot seem to think otherwise but please enlighten me on this. Would not those who don't take it be part of the control group?
And have there ever been any studies done on the vaccines stopping transmission? I know many people who have gotten covid again after getting various vaccine brand jabs.
Now for the next logical question:
If we're worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?Some say asymptomatic spreaders are almsot non-existent while others say they are a bigger issue then some want to admit.
Expression of the spike protein, which has adverse biological effects of its own (such as anergy and immune tolerance) which, in some people, are harmful (initiating blood coagulation and activating the immune ‘complement system’)makes me again skeptical and being at the other end of another vaccine and the lies and cover-up of Lymerix, I will stay far away from EUA vaccines until they undergo long-term trials.
That's my opinion and you're free to murder me for it.
Jfc had to read a book to get to the next post, I deserve a sticker and free pizza! Anyone else remember book it?!?
Anyway all I have to say is in reference to the part of your post talking about side effects, all medicines have side effects, a lot of them severely negative, I can’t turn arv or radio on without hearing an add for arthritis or a skin condition which the treating medicines side effects are anal seapage, delirium, constipation and even death, there may be good people at some of these companies, who believe they are doing good, but big pharma has never been for anything but money
qazwsxedc34You're still complaining about that MIGA degenerate pedophile who raped kids Trump? He'll be back in 2025 and he'll finally start a war with Iran.
Idk man, the point isn’t about “saving yourself”. It’s about preventing the spread to those you’d give it to who would die, it’s about not being selfish, that said it would be selfish of me or anyone to try and force you or another to get it, also you shouldn’t be accosted for your decision, but ya could change your attitude
zuesLol we don’t think that. It’s the whole 99.96% survival rate thing. You know, the thing!!!
**This post was edited on Jun 15th 2021 at 6:07:15am
zuesremember the fat 74 year got it and was over it in 4 days. and you’re still scared about it
I do
Isn't it cute all the repressed memories Trumpers have. "I REMEMBER TRUMP GETTING COVID AND HE TOOK HYDROXICLORAQUINE AND HE WAS FINE IN A MATTER OF DAYS!!" Uh huh, nice alternative facts there bud.
Too bad he didn’t drink the bleach he recommended, I remember that
skiermanIsn't it cute all the repressed memories Trumpers have. "I REMEMBER TRUMP GETTING COVID AND HE TOOK HYDROXICLORAQUINE AND HE WAS FINE IN A MATTER OF DAYS!!" Uh huh, nice alternative facts there bud.
It was so odd today. I worked with 25 ppl today had lunch with the VPs. No one got Covid. Man. What a joke I was really hoping I’d die from it sometime. At the veye least get severely ill.
zuesIt was so odd today. I worked with 25 ppl today had lunch with the VPs. No one got Covid. Man. What a joke I was really hoping I’d die from it sometime. At the veye least get severely ill.
c-friesOh no. NO. It can’t be. Ahmet… has his own… opinion?
Noooo!
If your opinion is antivaxx or racist or pro-trump or any other stupid thing (in my opinion) yeah I'm gonna think that's shitty and a bummer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
