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Is Siver Voll a rail wizard?

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asparagus
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I consider rail wizards to be guys like LJ Strenio who are just waaaaay to good at rails. Is it safe to say that Siver Voll should be deemed as one these mythical creatures? Watch ON3P 4 or take a peek at his insta for reference
May 7 2021 4:07PM
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bertBertson
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Pretty sure I saw him hit a switch 2 on back 3 swap front swap front swap back 4 out or some such nonsense on IG the other day so yea I'd have to agree
May 7 2021 4:30PM
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HaydenB
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Yes?
May 7 2021 5:03PM
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weatcoast
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He just spins too much. Dudes style is way better with slower spins.
May 7 2021 5:15PM
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johnblaze
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nah he's one of those things that gets into my wood pile
May 7 2021 5:25PM
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sindreplassen
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weastcoastHe just spins too much. Dudes style is way better with slower spins.


he does slower spins too, homie got one of the illest styles hands down and its even better irl
May 7 2021 5:29PM
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asparagus
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weastcoastHe just spins too much. Dudes style is way better with slower spins.


IMO he's one of the guys who can spin super fast without it looking like garbage but of course his style is better with slower spins.
May 7 2021 5:32PM
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PeteMahn
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You could argue Siver is on the same level as a rail skier as LJ. Name a trick LJ has that Siver doesn't besides ridiculous wizard tricks. As far as consistency you need a competition to determine this as you see how good someone is when the pressure is on. Watching LJ at rails to riches was insane seeing him stomp almost every trick first try. The only time I remember seeing Siver in a rail jam was at the Seven springs jam put on by Tom wallisch/ I can't remember the name. I thought he laced some pretty crazy tricks and was consistent but I'll have to re watch it. Siver really needs to get in the streets to be able to compare himself with guys like LJ but as far as technicality and difficulty he's there and his style is dope. That being said LJ was a pioneer as far as rail skiing goes.
May 7 2021 5:42PM
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gorbdawggybrent
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asparagusIMO he's one of the guys who can spin super fast without it looking like garbage but of course his style is better with slower spins.


Exactly bruh he is the goat
May 7 2021 5:43PM
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Chrischi69
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Yeah but i think hes less creative cause lj and alot of the line tc/rfcs guys have some wacky ass setups and do all kinds of stuff siver is just super technical like he doesnt most stuff on just normal rails and tubes
May 7 2021 5:45PM
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WoFlowz
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Yeah @eheath can we get a siver grabber since this is a weakly thread?
May 7 2021 5:57PM
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switchlip2
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weastcoastHe just spins too much. Dudes style is way better with slower spins.


To everyone downvoting he’s not wrong. 4 off with style over an 8 out
May 7 2021 7:00PM
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switchlip2
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WoFlowzYeah @eheath can we get a siver grabber since this is a weakly thread?


Let’s invade the Norway regional thread with siver threads whos with me
May 7 2021 7:02PM
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AlwaysGrabBlunt
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Yes
May 7 2021 7:12PM
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PsychicMigration
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An absolute sorcerer if I ever saw one.
May 7 2021 9:33PM
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mikemac
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I mean I really can’t think of anyone doing techier stuff w more style.... yes some of the mega feds to 8 out are pencil steeze, but there’s simply no other way to get that around.
You can barely keep up naming his combos, and he’s undeniably steezy, idc what anyone says about it being “hucked” he’s dialed AF both for style and difficulty
May 8 2021 12:32AM
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CharlzHub
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weastcoastHe just spins too much. Dudes style is way better with slower spins.


Yeah I’ll agree that slower spins often have more style, but the fact that he can also spin so fast shows that he’s a wizard

guys with on par style who you don’t see do massive spins, not as wizardy
May 8 2021 4:46PM
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skierman
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PeteMahnYou could argue Siver is on the same level as a rail skier as LJ. Name a trick LJ has that Siver doesn't besides ridiculous wizard tricks.


Uhhhhhhhhhh so LJ does have tricks Siver can't do. And rails Siver could never slide.


So yea, you're a fucking idiot.
May 8 2021 9:18PM
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asparagus
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skiermanUhhhhhhhhhh so LJ does have tricks Siver can't do. And rails Siver could never slide.


So yea, you're a fucking idiot.


Well, I’d agree with LJ being better overall at rails than Siver but I think Siver is better at doing a million tricks on the same rail.
May 8 2021 9:21PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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asparagusWell, I’d agree with LJ being better overall at rails than Siver but I think Siver is better at doing a million tricks on the same rail.


lets see siver do a cork 7 in the middle of south america while wearing a vin diesel cosplay
May 8 2021 9:24PM
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mikemac
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skiermanUhhhhhhhhhh so LJ does have tricks Siver can't do. And rails Siver could never slide.


LJ definitely got him beat on the urban game for sure.... would still argue that siver is probably one of the top dogs coming out of the more “new wave” era
May 8 2021 9:24PM
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asparagus
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TRVP_ANGELlets see siver do a cork 7 in the middle of south america while wearing a vin diesel cosplay


Haha I forgot about that. Also yeah Siver has nothing on LJ when it comes to jumps
May 8 2021 9:26PM
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GilsonSkis
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Is this even a question?!?!
May 8 2021 11:03PM
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PeteMahn
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skiermanUhhhhhhhhhh so LJ does have tricks Siver can't do. And rails Siver could never slide.


So yea, you're a fucking idiot.


Besides wizard tricks and ridiculous bullshit that ones only going to do on a traveling circus setup lets hear what LJ has that Siver doesn't. Keep in mind I already said Siver isn't in the streets so don't bring that into the discussion as I already mentioned that and this also excludes jumps as this whole discussion is based on rails. LJ has big spins on like 6 on etc but the most tech rails tricks he's got are like front swap continuing 3 swap pretz 2/4 or maybe 4 pretzel 4, and or 2 pretz 6 which Siver can easily do. Go look for LJ's most technical rail tricks and compare them to Siver, then get back to me.
May 9 2021 12:46AM
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asparagus
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PeteMahnBesides wizard tricks and ridiculous bullshit that ones only going to do on a traveling circus setup lets hear what LJ has that Siver doesn't. Keep in mind I already said Siver isn't in the streets so don't bring that into the discussion as I already mentioned that and this also excludes jumps as this whole discussion is based on rails. LJ has big spins on like 6 on etc but the most tech rails tricks he's got are like front swap continuing 3 swap pretz 2/4 or maybe 4 pretzel 4, and or 2 pretz 6 which Siver can easily do. Go look for LJ's most technical rail tricks and compare them to Siver, then get back to me.

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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/885716/LJ-Strenio---X-Games-Real-Ski-2017
May 9 2021 1:13AM
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gorbdawggybrent
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TRVP_ANGELlets see siver do a cork 7 in the middle of south america while wearing a vin diesel cosplay


Did LJ do this??
May 9 2021 1:43AM
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asparagus
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gorbdawggybrentDid LJ do this??


He got hired to do stunts in a vin diesel movie which meant skiing in the middle of a jungle dressed as vin diesel. I remember reading this long-ass article he wrote documenting the whole thing with all the stunts and video. If anyone has the link that would be appreciated
May 9 2021 2:00AM
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skierman
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PeteMahnBesides wizard tricks and ridiculous bullshit that ones only going to do on a traveling circus setup lets hear what LJ has that Siver doesn't. Keep in mind I already said Siver isn't in the streets so don't bring that into the discussion


LOL when you have to add a bunch of retarded stipulations, your argument is shit.
May 9 2021 6:51AM
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PeteMahn
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skiermanLOL when you have to add a bunch of retarded stipulations, your argument is shit.


When you try and compare guys who ski Lines in the backcountry vs those that huck themselves off cliffs it's quite simple that their two different style of skiers. Same here with Siver and LJ. Siver is as technical on rails as LJ he just hasn't skied street. There's also perfectly good reason for this as it's not 2010 and Nobody gets paid to Fucking ski anymore. Who even makes ski movies anymore besides TGR nevermind ones that include urban. Everything LJ filmed in the streets was pretty much with Level 1 and a bit of stuff with Good Company. Obviously he has shots with Traveling Circus but those weren't for a movie but a webisode series. When Siver can get a crew including a production company to back him putting out a street part then will see it done. Siver had shots in the ON3P movies which I guarantee had no budget and he probably had to get himself to the states. On top of this LJ made really good money from rail jams which don't exist anymore such as Rails to Riches, War of Rails etc. whenever he showed up to Rails to Riches he was money in the bank so he could count on $5,000 to use for traveling/filming for his season. The only way Siver has any chance of making any money is if he gets in X Games real street which he would have serious potential. That being said I find it funny people want to immediately bring up all of LJ's urban shots and compare them to Siver's shots that are in the park; It's apples to oranges. Also Line was def giving the guys in the Traveling Circus a travel budget So LJ was also able to use that as well.
May 9 2021 8:21AM
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skierman
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PeteMahnWhen you try and compare guys who ski Lines in the backcountry vs those that huck themselves off cliffs it's quite simple that their two different style of skiers.


Or your argument is trash because you're a stupid fucking gaper with a hard on for The Bunchies.
May 9 2021 8:38AM
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PeteMahn
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skiermanOr your argument is trash because you're a stupid fucking gaper with a hard on for The Bunchies.


You're argument is invalid since Siver doesn't ski with the bunch and he actually does extremely difficult and technical rail tricks while having some of the sickest style in the game. I understand your argument when it comes to the Bunch as most of them hit extremely low consequence and stupid features while just jumping around like idiots. Watch the illusive at 3:45 and try and tell me that's not smooth, though I know its not a super tech rail. The problem with this project is everyone's shots are together and not split up by rider so you can't watch just Siver shots at once; you gotta pick through some of the other sub par skiing.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/931418/ON3P-4
May 9 2021 8:56AM
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Level1
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PeteMahnI understand your argument when it comes to the Bunch as most of them hit extremely low consequence and stupid features while just jumping around like idiots.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/931418/ON3P-4

How on earth do we still have to suffer idiots talking like this in the year of our lord 2021
May 9 2021 4:53PM
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PeteMahn
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Level1How on earth do we still have to suffer idiots talking like this in the year of our lord 2021


Hopefully more people will be talking like this as I would rather people have an opinion and post about it then say nothing. Did you not see the last bunch movie that came out? Half the shots were filler shots; without Hackel the movie would be hard to get through. If they got Siver in their movie it would change the majority of people's opinion. Why are most of them including magnus still hopping around on rails shorter than 8ft waving their hands around all over the place with no control. Watch the movie I posted above and look at Siver's shots; there is a world of difference between Siver and the bunch.
May 9 2021 5:59PM
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SofaKingSick
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gorbdawggybrentDid LJ do this??


asparagusHe got hired to do stunts in a vin diesel movie which meant skiing in the middle of a jungle dressed as vin diesel. I remember reading this long-ass article he wrote documenting the whole thing with all the stunts and video. If anyone has the link that would be appreciated


def worth a read if you're interested

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/864720/TR--I-Live-For-This-SHIT
May 10 2021 12:32PM
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asparagus
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Bump. Siver's new street part confirms my beliefs, he is one of the majestic rail wizards of this world.
Sep 28 2021 10:46PM
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