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Stupid idea that probably everyone has already though of

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dognuts
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wut if u mounted snowboard bindings on some decently wide skis. im sure everyone has already though of this but i cant find any pics.

probably way worse performance and skis really weird? yes. comfy? yes. way cooler and more useless? heck ya! completely unnecessary? also yes
Feb 2 2021 4:06PM
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SendyMcSendyface
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https://www.apexskiboots.com/
Feb 2 2021 4:36PM
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SuspiciousFish
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I know they make snowboards that break in half down the middle and you can use them as touring skis and put it back together to go down the hill as snowboard again.
Feb 2 2021 4:47PM
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eheath
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SendyMcSendyfacehttps://www.apexskiboots.com/


Just doesn't make any sense, ppl hate ski boots because they don't get properly fitted, so they buy this junk and you can't even engage your edge with that trash hah
Feb 2 2021 4:49PM
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theabortionator
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Somebody gave be some ski blades mounted with snowboard bindings. Things were sketchy but awesome. I think they only sent me to the hospital once so not too bad.
Feb 2 2021 4:57PM
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SofaKingSick
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SuspiciousFishI know they make snowboards that break in half down the middle and you can use them as touring skis and put it back together to go down the hill as snowboard again.


split boarding. basically the snowboard approach to a skinning setup
Feb 2 2021 5:04PM
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SendyMcSendyface
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eheathJust doesn't make any sense, ppl hate ski boots because they don't get properly fitted, so they buy this junk and you can't even engage your edge with that trash hah


These things make me irrationally angry when I see them on the hill
Feb 2 2021 5:11PM
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dognuts
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i literally mean normal snowboard bindings mounted forwards on normal skis and u skid with snowboard boots
Feb 2 2021 5:34PM
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jakeordie
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spiral fractures
Feb 2 2021 5:37PM
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GKS
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I've seen an edit where some guys were riding shitty old rock skis with snowboard bindings on them, doubt I could find it though. It is possible
Feb 2 2021 5:40PM
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BLandz
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Kind of need a hard shell for the forward flex tho, no?
Feb 2 2021 7:45PM
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Burrito
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Lack of release aside, the issue is that the force applied to a ski boot/binding is many, many times greater than its snowboard counterpart. On a snowboard, you have the tip and tail of the board much closer to the boots and bindings, and any force from the tip or tail is spread out over both feet. A ski's tip and tail are much farther from single pivot point of a single boot/binding, creating a ton of torque. Make that pivot point even farther from the tips and tails by using the underfoot mount of a snowboard binding, and you lengthen the lever and increase the torque even more.

You could certainly ride soft snow at slow speed, but if you tried to push it or ran into firm/choppy snow you'd pretty quickly break the binding, the mount, your leg, or some combination of the three.
Feb 2 2021 8:00PM
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mattf51
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Idk about you but my ski boots are super comfortable. Also I strap them down super tight so my foot doesn’t move and I have more control. Not as easy in a snowboard boot.
Feb 2 2021 9:34PM
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mcswizzle
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SuspiciousFishI know they make snowboards that break in half down the middle and you can use them as touring skis and put it back together to go down the hill as snowboard again.


Nah man, that's crazy talk
Feb 2 2021 10:22PM
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byubound
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What about two snowboard bindings mounted on one not that wide ski https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/999250/World-s-Skinniest-Snowboard-
Mar 31 2021 1:20PM
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whitenab
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Just loosen/unbuckle your boots lol. It's more fun than it sounds if you're on chill runs
Mar 31 2021 1:44PM
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Burrito
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byuboundWhat about two snowboard bindings mounted on one not that wide ski https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/999250/World-s-Skinniest-Snowboard-

That poor Pocket Rocket
Mar 31 2021 2:19PM
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ThaLorax
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eheathJust doesn't make any sense, ppl hate ski boots because they don't get properly fitted, so they buy this junk and you can't even engage your edge with that trash hah


Agreed, but I (begrudgingly) sell the shit out of them to old white men and women. On the positive side, they can be easier to get in and out of for people with dorsal flexion issues AND you have extremely average shaped feet. On every other side, they're absolute trash.
Apr 1 2021 12:40PM
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snowfinder
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BurritoThat poor Pocket Rocket

Those are history why would they do that to such an iconic ski?!
Apr 1 2021 2:59PM
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snowfinder
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bem3ttQhrwh/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Apr 1 2021 3:03PM
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dolanslebensraum
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SendyMcSendyfacehttps://www.apexskiboots.com/

Apex boots look like a cute idea, but i doubt they will catch on to anybody besides liftees and maybe some ski patrollers.



I feel like the ppl who think apex boots are their answer probably just have yet to find a normal PU boot that is comfy. I dont know how rigid the soft inside of the apex boot is but if its too soft its probably not going to perform that well. The point of a normal boot is that the PU shell distributes the force of each buckle over a large area. Without that force distribution you will feel like only the regions under the buckles are tight enough, or they are too tight there and too loose everywhere else.
Apr 1 2021 10:45PM
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extravert
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Would also like to see two ski boots mounted to two snowboards. Extra fat and short skis
Apr 1 2021 11:14PM
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scratchskier321
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lookup dahu ski boots
Apr 1 2021 11:16PM
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dolanslebensraum
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Also op, snowboard bindings dont need to hold up to forces as high as ski boots when flexing forward or backwards because to get a snowboard on its frontside or backside edge is an easy job leverage wise.

but to butter on a ski you have to put a huge force on the front or back of your boot, and that force has to be transferred through the boot and binding into the ski without any part of the chain flexing much at all.

a snowboard boot and binding probably arent designed to be able to carry that amount of leverage.

maybe some snowboard boots/bindings are stiff enough for the job, but it would surprise me if so bc there is no need for that stiffness on a snowboard/boot/binding.
Apr 1 2021 11:25PM
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dognuts
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yeah dude like u said they would probably be pretty crappy. was just wondering if anyone has done it just cause its stupid
DolansLebensraumAlso op, snowboard bindings dont need to hold up to forces as high as ski boots when flexing forward or backwards because to get a snowboard on its frontside or backside edge is an easy job leverage wise.

but to butter on a ski you have to put a huge force on the front or back of your boot, and that force has to be transferred through the boot and binding into the ski without any part of the chain flexing much at all.

a snowboard boot and binding probably arent designed to be able to carry that amount of leverage.

maybe some snowboard boots/bindings are stiff enough for the job, but it would surprise me if so bc there is no need for that stiffness on a snowboard/boot/binding.
Apr 1 2021 11:43PM
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ASAPCarter
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whitenabJust loosen/unbuckle your boots lol. It's more fun than it sounds if you're on chill runs


I do this on occasion and it’s actually pretty fun. I’ve got fulltilts so I just flip the tongue down which also lets the heel of the liner lift out so basically I’m pretty much a teleskier🤷‍♂️
Apr 1 2021 11:54PM
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Burrito
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whitenabJust loosen/unbuckle your boots lol. It's more fun than it sounds if you're on chill runs

This is something people do quite a bit to teach/learn being balanced in you stance. There have also long been rumors of a DPS boot, and the last time I heard one of their guys talk about it he specifically mentioned how much he loved the feel of riding with loose/open boots on mellow tours.
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