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Experimenting with mounting points

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MarkusFin
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I've ridden the mordecai 193 with the recommended -2cm mount and I've really grown to love it.

I just bought a pair of 193 mindbender 108ti, and I'm wondering if mounting them at reccommended at 9.75(?) would make the ski very fucking different to what I'm used to.

Would the ski feel change drastically if I mounted it at +2 of recommended?
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shinbangclan
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Maybe if you want to ski switch everywhere...?
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tomPietrowski
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+2cm is actually pretty much the sweet spot for that ski especially if you are used to a more forward mount on other skis.
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cohen.skier
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MarkusFinI've ridden the mordecai 193 with the recommended -2cm mount and I've really grown to love it.

I just bought a pair of 193 mindbender 108ti, and I'm wondering if mounting them at reccommended at 9.75(?) would make the ski very fucking different to what I'm used to.

Would the ski feel change drastically if I mounted it at +2 of recommended?


yo thanks for this thread i got the same skis and i have the same question.
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shinbangclan
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tomPietrowski+2cm is actually pretty much the sweet spot for that ski especially if you are used to a more forward mount on other skis.


Wait, there's forward mounts? Is this +2cm from center or from factory reccomended?
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tomPietrowski
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shinbangclanWait, there's forward mounts? Is this +2cm from center or from factory reccomended?


+2cm from recommended. You would not want to really go too close to center on that ski so usually people reference recommended
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.nasty
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shinbangclanWait, there's forward mounts? Is this +2cm from center or from factory reccomended?


I know I've had some Scandinavian kids want me to mount their skis +1 or +2 from true center. Shit's wild.
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Cade2
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tomPietrowski+2cm is actually pretty much the sweet spot for that ski especially if you are used to a more forward mount on other skis.


Tom, do you have any experience with mindbenders being mounted around plus 4 or 5? Similar to an On3p or moment rec point, Im curious to see how they ski 4 or 5 back from true center.
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tomPietrowski
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Cade2Tom, do you have any experience with mindbenders being mounted around plus 4 or 5? Similar to an On3p or moment rec point, Im curious to see how they ski 4 or 5 back from true center.


It varies alot on which model. I have my 116c skis mounted about +3cm from rec if I remember right and I have seen some of our athletes use them much further forward then that, but it will drastically change how the ski performs, which may be fine if this is just a big pow ski and nothing else but if you still want them to carve some groomers it may not be ideal.
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.nasty
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tomPietrowskiIt varies alot on which model. I have my 116c skis mounted about +3cm from rec if I remember right and I have seen some of our athletes use them much further forward then that, but it will drastically change how the ski performs, which may be fine if this is just a big pow ski and nothing else but if you still want them to carve some groomers it may not be ideal.

you like yours at +3? I went factory and never seemed to desire more tail.
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tomPietrowski
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.nastyyou like yours at +3? I went factory and never seemed to desire more tail.


Yeah I way preferred them forward. I think I only did 2-3 laps on them before I moved them forward (demo binding) and found my sweet spot was about 3cm forward. Just made them easier to pivot fast for me and also felt better switch.
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animator
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tomPietrowskiYeah I way preferred them forward. I think I only did 2-3 laps on them before I moved them forward (demo binding) and found my sweet spot was about 3cm forward. Just made them easier to pivot fast for me and also felt better switch.


You ski a Mindbender 116 switch?
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tomPietrowski
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animatorYou ski a Mindbender 116 switch?


Yep, not a ton but the turned up tail and rocker along with a forward mount make it ok. No reckoner 122 but yeah it works
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.nasty
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animatorYou ski a Mindbender 116 switch?


All you need in life is a little early rise in the tail.
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MarkusFin
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.nastyI know I've had some Scandinavian kids want me to mount their skis +1 or +2 from true center. Shit's wild.





I'm scandi myself but I don't think I want to try out +2 center yet lmao
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animator
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MarkusFinI'm scandi myself but I don't think I want to try out +2 center yet lmao


Is this a thing? What are the benefits of that?
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.nasty
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animatorIs this a thing? What are the benefits of that?

it was always Finnish kids, they ski urban switch more than forward apparently.
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animator
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.nastyit was always Finnish kids, they ski urban switch more than forward apparently.


That’s fucking sick
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cohen.skier
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I mounted my mindbenders (108 ti) at +2 from center. skiid em for the first time yesterday and they feel so nice.
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MarkusFin
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cohen.skierI mounted my mindbenders (108 ti) at +2 from center. skiid em for the first time yesterday and they feel so nice.


from center? or reccomended?
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Corey_O132
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I mounted my Kartel 108s +1. They are by far the best I've ever skied on. When it comes down to it a couple cm in either direction doesn't make too drastic of a difference, but usually when a company has a recommended of -2 or -4 then the top of the camber will typically be pushed back a centimeter or two. At the end of the day it doesn't make a huge difference, but I do like the feel of +1 as far as I can tell. Maybe it's a placebo or something.
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cohen.skier
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MarkusFinfrom center? or reccomended?


Meant to say reccomended haha
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