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What’s the difference between underflip and flair

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Berks534
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My friend thinks his is a underflip but I think it’s a flair.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/975363/trim-9ABD976E-AAB1-4945-B36B-22D4B082E188-MOV


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/975364/trim-0B4B9A29-0265-4265-91E5-91421E89DC74-MOV
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Berks534
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he thinks that his is still an underflip and I think he is doing a flair. who’s correct

**This post was edited on Oct 7th 2020 at 3:22:55pm
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Berks534
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The first one is me the second one is my friend
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shinbangclan
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You guys did the same trick but with different styles, basically.
Flairs are only done in vert or on qps/half pipes (I think). So yeah, I'm pretty sure they're both underflips.
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Berks534
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I thought underflip a were more like 90 Lincoln 90 out, and flairs were backflips with a late 180 at the end which is kinda what he did
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r00kie
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Idk, but the video suggestion I got afterward was called Non Binary Grandma Killer and that was weird.
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ParkRx
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Flairs are on vert, thats an underflip
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SofaKingSick
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both are right. i'd be more inclined to call it a flair when it's on a vert and undie when it's on a jump

some people still say an underflip "has to be 90 flip 90!" but that, thank god, is going out of style. just dumb hair splitting. y'all did an underflip, you did a flair, hell you did a dope 5
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sqeellicbic
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I always thought a flair was just a cork 5 in a pipe/quarter pipe. I'd say the first vid is a underflip 5 and the second vid is a backflip late 180.
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armchair_skier
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1st one is a flair. 2nd one is an underflip.
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ReturnToMonkey
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Both underflips
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theabortionator
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r00kieIdk, but the video suggestion I got afterward was called Non Binary Grandma Killer and that was weird.


Didn't seem that weird based on my general search history but good to know it was for everyone.
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johnoble
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r00kieIdk, but the video suggestion I got afterward was called Non Binary Grandma Killer and that was weird.


man ur missing out, im getting Non-Binary Grandma Cop Killer.
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Ghost_BLandzV2
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IMO I think you guys are all trippin the first one is 100% an underflip and the second one is def a backie late 180.

Flair is just an underflip in the pipe
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Bdoobz
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You talk a good one but you don’t do what you supposed to do
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Berks534
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BLandzIMO I think you guys are all trippin the first one is 100% an underflip and the second one is def a backie late 180.

Flair is just an underflip in the pipe


I can agree with that
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ParkRx
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BLandzIMO I think you guys are all trippin the first one is 100% an underflip and the second one is def a backie late 180.

Flair is just an underflip in the pipe


I see what you are saying in that it looks like a backflip late one but I don't think it is. I think it's a laid out under flip. He starts his his rotation slightly off axis which brings the rotation around. Versus a backflip late one starts as a completely on axis backflip that with mid air adjustments adds a 180. I know it's a small difference. Heres a clip from a king for example

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8rU_Zqj8mN/
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skiP.E.I.
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Those are both sick. My advice is don't worry about what tricks are called and just keep blissfully shredding. My understanding is flairs are just on vert. Kind of silly to argue about these small distinctions between tricks imo.
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Berks534
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skiP.E.I.Those are both sick. My advice is don't worry about what tricks are called and just keep blissfully shredding. My understanding is flairs are just on vert. Kind of silly to argue about these small distinctions between tricks imo.


I agree with you I just don’t know what to call them
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ReturnToMonkey
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ParkRxI see what you are saying in that it looks like a backflip late one but I don't think it is. I think it's a laid out under flip. He starts his his rotation slightly off axis which brings the rotation around. Versus a backflip late one starts as a completely on axis backflip that with mid air adjustments adds a 180. I know it's a small difference. Heres a clip from a king for example

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8rU_Zqj8mN/


Upvote for King Antti. A backflip late 180 is done by changing your moment of inertia in the air, while a flair/underflip is determined in the set, like other off axis rotations. Similar to how a cork is different than a full
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FastGreyGlasses
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BLandzIMO I think you guys are all trippin the first one is 100% an underflip and the second one is def a backie late 180.

Flair is just an underflip in the pipe


what you said. the first is an underflip, the second a back 180
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Paul.
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Berks534I agree with you I just don’t know what to call them

Theyre both a little wonky but essentially both are underflips
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Thegenericskier
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underflips and flairs have almost the same set but flair is in pipe or on a quarter
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LukeTheWaffle
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Yeah flair comes from bmx vert, an air trick is a trick + 180 on a QP, so a tailwhip air is just a tailwhip 180 on quarter, so a flip air is a backflip with a 180, hence flair

If anyone says a trick is a flair and it's not in a qp they're wrong
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