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ON3P flex

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CharlzHub
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Since ON3P is doing that rather nice sale atm, I’m looking into copping some Jeffrey 108s. I know that they’re a fairly stiff ski but can anyone actually describe to me what the flex pattern is like? And how stiff they are on a 1-10 scale kinda thing? Cheers
Apr 15 2020 6:27AM
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Young_patty
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As a general rule of thumb ON3P's are more on the stiffer side. The middle will be stiff but it gets flexier towards the tips, maybe like an 8 in the middle and like 6-7 out at the tips- they're super poppy for nollies, ollies, butters and shit tho so you'll still have a blast on em
Apr 15 2020 1:24PM
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animator
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Young_pattyAs a general rule of thumb ON3P's are more on the stiffer side. The middle will be stiff but it gets flexier towards the tips, maybe like an 8 in the middle and like 6-7 out at the tips- they're super poppy for nollies, ollies, butters and shit tho so you'll still have a blast on em

Yeah this is accurate, I’d say the Jeffrey is a 8 or 9 in the middle, slowly moving to a 6-7 in the very tops and tails.
Apr 15 2020 1:32PM
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No.Quarter
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https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2018-2019-on3p-kartel-108
Apr 15 2020 1:59PM
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patagonialuke
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They tend to be stiffer than most freestyle skis, most notably at the ends where most other skis are quite soft. That said, ON3P's rocker profiles also make them feel a bit softer than they are since (1) there's a less ski contacting the snow so they feel a bit shorter than their actual length and (2) for butters and presses, that rocker creates a nice leverage point so they're easier to bend than their actual flex pattern would suggest.
Apr 15 2020 3:14PM
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ScottB
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Definitely on the stiffer end of things. I got a pair this year and it changed the way I skied (for the better) but I was skiing way more forward and way harder on them. Later on I got a pair of prodigy 4.0s for all the chill slow swervy skiing and those nice sloooow butters. (will butter out of some cliff drops if i'm too for back) But if you are moving from a pair of armadas or factions or butter machines be aware that i'll be stiff(er)
Apr 16 2020 12:14PM
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shin-bang
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ill add my two cents here,

i definitely agree to them being 8-9 stiffness underfoot, and then a 7 out on the tips. once you find the hinge point while doing a butter or flex its not an issue. SUPER poppy. you can boost so high while doing nollies and presses.

I would snag them before theyre gone. will probably be one of your new favorite skis.
Apr 16 2020 5:08PM
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CharlzHub
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Thanks team. might have to
Apr 16 2020 5:15PM
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Lazylightning
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I got a pair in 186 (I'm about 180cm tall and skinny) and they are decently stout. They do have a ton of pop but I would definitely agree with everything that has been said. Even in the tips and tails they are still pretty stiff relative to comparable all mtn freestyle skis, you can flex them a lot but you really have to throw your weight into butters. That being said, if you have the opportunity you should cop them 100%

**This post was edited on Apr 16th 2020 at 8:18:10pm
Apr 16 2020 8:16PM
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CharlzHub
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Copped. Got some pivots for em too
Apr 16 2020 8:24PM
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shin-bang
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CharlzHubCopped. Got some pivots for em too


good man. the only combo in the world that matters. ON3P and pivots
Apr 16 2020 8:30PM
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CharlzHub
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One last question:

I already have Vishnu wets as my day to day ski so I’m probably just gonna take the jeffreys out when there’s a bit of fresh snow to rip. But they will still venture into the park every now and again

so where should I mount them? I was thinking -2cm but I’d like any other recommendations. Cheers
Apr 18 2020 4:45PM
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Lazylightning
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CharlzHubOne last question:

I already have Vishnu wets as my day to day ski so I’m probably just gonna take the jeffreys out when there’s a bit of fresh snow to rip. But they will still venture into the park every now and again

so where should I mount them? I was thinking -2cm but I’d like any other recommendations. Cheers

Granted I never take my 108s in the park and wanted to maximize all mtn performance while keeping them playful, I had mine mounted at recommended. That's like -4.5 and they honestly still feel really good skiing switch and feel very centered in the air. I do think that you could split the difference between recommended and center though (-2ish) and they's still ski well. If you email ON3P customer service they'll give you honest recommendations about where they think you should mount (unlike other companies that only push their recommended point), hope that helps!

**This post was edited on Apr 18th 2020 at 6:10:14pm
Apr 18 2020 6:09PM
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