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If k2 cant even make a ski for their all star rider that doesnt fall apart....
Talk about bad publicity. K2 needs to pull an armada and go kidnap some german/austrian engineers. I used to think the rivet system on k2s was a reliable engineering solution. Guess not.
**This thread was edited on Apr 4th 2020 at 1:55:39am
DolanReloadedTalk about bad publicity. K2 needs to pull an armada and go kidnap some german/austrian engineers. I used to think the rivet system on k2s was a reliable engineering solution. Guess not.
**This thread was edited on Apr 4th 2020 at 1:55:39am
If you ever owned poachers, you’d understand. Also K2s are pretty damn durable.
So with that said I’m going to go ahead and file this as a poor troll attempt.
To be fair when you land a big impact landing and push the tail into the snow first, slinging the front of the ski down into the snow at mach 2—the g force on the front tips of the skis are probably astronomical, especially if the snow is hard or icy.
still though, we landed a man on the moon 50 years ago. We should be able to engineer a nuclear grade ski by now.
**This post was edited on Apr 4th 2020 at 2:35:54am
You sound crazy. Id have to say the poacher is one of the most durable skis I've ever had :D. Only time I've ever broken a poacher was from running into a rail and denting the ski.
Those rivets are more for aesthetics than anything. When they come out it's just a hole in the plastic. No core exposure or fiberglass or anything that close to the nose. Just because one falls out doesn't mean the ski is actually compromised.
Also, there has never been a ski that can go through the abuse of park skiing without some kind of damage if they are being used regularly, let alone every day by one of the world's best slopestyle skiers.
nolliebackflipI think this is why they dont use them anymore
Well good riddance. Honestly i would have a hard time loving my skis if its tip rivets simply packed their shit and peaced out to mexico like they did on colbys skis.
DolanReloadedWell good riddance. Honestly i would have a hard time loving my skis if its tip rivets simply packed their shit and peaced out to mexico like they did on colbys skis.
Youll have an even harder time loving your skis when the piece of shit tyrolias eject while your on a rail cuz you didnt adjust the afd after the last time you skied
air.bubbleYoull have an even harder time loving your skis when the piece of shit tyrolias eject while your on a rail cuz you didnt adjust the afd after the last time you skied
Once you adjust the afd you are good to go. Why do you think it would move while youre out skiing? Ive messed with the afd settings on my attack 2s and the screw you turn to adjust it has almost as much resistance to it as turning the din screw. Its not going anywhere.
i was also concerned about the posts a couple people made on the internet about their Toe pre-releasing on them. But they had this issue because their afd was misadjusted as fuck and once they adjusted it the problem went away.
also watch this video of this years xgames slopestyle and fast forward to watch all 4 runs of colby stevenson and evan mceachran who got 1st and 2nd riding tyrolia attack 2s. The bindings are solid as fuck and they held up strong through the huge stresses colby and evan put on them. Evan even caught an inside edge on one of the rails. Did his binding release? Fuck no.
i doubt the stone mason austrians would put a binding on the market that had a serious unaccounted for flaw that wasnt easily fixable withing the framework of the bindings design and adjustability.
Austrian engineers are massive fucking pimps and you just look like a fat inbred american redneck to doubt their products.
**This post was edited on Apr 4th 2020 at 8:53:01pm
DolanReloadedOnce you adjust the afd you are good to go. Why do you think it would move while youre out skiing? Ive messed with the afd settings on my attack 2s and the screw you turn to adjust it has almost as much resistance to it as turning the din screw. Its not going anywhere.
i was also concerned about the posts a couple people made on the internet about their Toe pre-releasing on them. But they had this issue because their afd was misadjusted as fuck and once they adjusted it the problem went away.
also watch this video of this years xgames slopestyle and fast forward to watch all 4 runs of colby stevenson and evan mceachran who got 1st and 2nd riding tyrolia attack 2s. The bindings are solid as fuck and they held up strong through the huge stresses colby and evan put on them. Evan even caught an inside edge on one of the rails. Did his binding release? Fuck no.
i doubt the stone mason austrians would put a binding on the market that had a serious unaccounted for flaw that wasnt easily fixable withing the framework of the bindings design and adjustability.
Austrian engineers are massive fucking pimps and you just look like a fat inbred american redneck to doubt their products.
**This post was edited on Apr 4th 2020 at 8:53:01pm
The problem isnt that the bindings arent solid, theyre great after you adjust them. The problem is that the afd screw loosens while your skiing. Thats why u hear horror stories of tyrolias pre releasing, everyone who ive talked to who has had attack2s has this problem. One of my friends with attacks didnt adjust his afd for a momth and when i looked at it he could move his boot up n down about 4mm. Ive skied mine for this whole season competing and i would make it a habit to adjust the afd before skiing, not fun to land switch on a 40 footer and have one ski eject.
yo do lando
pros are pros they can git that shit done on barrel staves and chicken wire
your fanboy infatuation with their gears causin to many #dumfuckdolanthreads with the usual aryan brotherhood dog whistle included
wheres our viddy of the fat kid doing the tecnoes running in place whomp moves?
the one you said was mindblowing
you need me to bump the thread?
air.bubbleThe problem isnt that the bindings arent solid, theyre great after you adjust them. The problem is that the afd screw loosens while your skiing. Thats why u hear horror stories of tyrolias pre releasing, everyone who ive talked to who has had attack2s has this problem. One of my friends with attacks didnt adjust his afd for a momth and when i looked at it he could move his boot up n down about 4mm. Ive skied mine for this whole season competing and i would make it a habit to adjust the afd before skiing, not fun to land switch on a 40 footer and have one ski eject.
dude according to your logic a din screw should also unscrew itself over time. The attack 2 toe piece im holding in my hand right now has a very high resistance afd screw thats just as hard to turn as a din screw. If the afd screw/nut on your attacks is loose as a goose then apparently tyrolia has fixed that problem, bc my afd isnt going to move a fucking nanometer just from standing on it. The vector component of the boots downward force that is in the direction required to push the screw loose is way too small to overcome the friction between the screw and the nut, at least on my attacks. If your afd screw will spin as if you lubed it up with wd40, then you should just bust out some loctite threadlocker and put it on the screw. Problem solved.
SFBv420.0yo do lando
pros are pros they can git that shit done on barrel staves and chicken wire
your fanboy infatuation with their gears causin to many #dumfuckdolanthreads with the usual aryan brotherhood dog whistle included
wheres our viddy of the fat kid doing the tecnoes running in place whomp moves?
the one you said was mindblowing
you need me to bump the thread?
DolanReloadeddude according to your logic a din screw should also unscrew itself over time. The attack 2 toe piece im holding in my hand right now has a very high resistance afd screw thats just as hard to turn as a din screw. If the afd screw/nut on your attacks is loose as a goose then apparently tyrolia has fixed that problem, bc my afd isnt going to move a fucking nanometer just from standing on it. The vector component of the boots downward force that is in the direction required to push the screw loose is way too small to overcome the friction between the screw and the nut, at least on my attacks. If your afd screw will spin as if you lubed it up with wd40, then you should just bust out some loctite threadlocker and put it on the screw. Problem solved.
Chill inferiorboy. Your mommy is proud of you.
I dont know Jack shit about physics of afds and shit nor do I care to be honest, I'm speaking out of my personal experience with these bindings. Everytime I've skied my attacks (2020) by the end of the day I can move my boot up and down in the bindings. Throughout the season I've had techs adjust the bindings just for the same thing to happen, so after Everytime I went skiing I have had to adjust the afd.
air.bubbleI dont know Jack shit about physics of afds and shit nor do I care to be honest, I'm speaking out of my personal experience with these bindings. Everytime I've skied my attacks (2020) by the end of the day I can move my boot up and down in the bindings. Throughout the season I've had techs adjust the bindings just for the same thing to happen, so after Everytime I went skiing I have had to adjust the afd.
Im a bit incredulous of your claim that your afd screw has a brain and trolls your ass by unscrewing itself every time you go skiing but i mostly believe you.
but its an easy fix man. Just get some threadlocker and the screw wont move a millimeter. I mean fuck it you could probably use hairspray.
I think if your afd screw is really that loose then its probably defective. Both afd screws on my attacks have to literally be cranked by my screwdriver in order to turn the screw.
**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2020 at 1:12:08am
People please stop arguing with him he’s clearly just trolling. Let move on so that way content like this doesn’t keep littering this site and keep it from being productive.
SkylineGTR_R32People please stop arguing with him he’s clearly just trolling. Let move on so that way content like this doesn’t keep littering this site and keep it from being productive.
Youre a total fucking loser dude, and youre too poor to afford the car your screename references because your poor inferior parents gave you their shitty inferior genes.
somebody should smack the shit out of your parents for (not using) a condom 9 months before your birthday.
Lol, K2's are shit. Anyone who says a $300 china made ski is durable either:
A) doesn't ski more than 30 days a year
B) Can't hit rails
C) rides K2 skis and feels attacked by this thread
D) Sucks
or E) has felt the anguish of a rivet coming out after 3 days and tries to hide their resentment by trying to convince themselves/ others that they're good skis still
DolanReloadedYoure a total fucking loser dude, and youre too poor to afford the car your screename references because your poor inferior parents gave you their shitty inferior genes.
somebody should smack the shit out of your parents for (not using) a condom 9 months before your birthday.
Young_pattyLol, K2's are shit. Anyone who says a $300 china made ski is durable either:
A) doesn't ski more than 30 days a year
B) Can't hit rails
C) rides K2 skis and feels attacked by this thread
D) Sucks
or E) has felt the anguish of a rivet coming out after 3 days and tries to hide their resentment by trying to convince themselves/ others that they're good skis still
Haha. I personally would trash the shit out of the company that made my skis if one of the tip rivets popped off. Fuck it if my armadas blow an edge or tear through the base or delam i will happily do my best to trash their reputation online. I want to be able to love my ski equipment. A rivet popping out is like you realizing your girlfriend has cankles. Its a total deal breaker and i wouldnt stay loyal to that ski manufacturer after something like that.
my view is that apart from edge damage from skiing shitty rails and boxes, its fucking 2020–enough time has passed that it is fuckingembarrassing that humans still cannot create an indestructible ski.
look at ski bindings. They last forever without any problem. Skis should also.
i dont know if anybody here knows about how some computer manufacturers and others such as apple were purposefully producing electronics that would slow down as they got older in order to encourage consumers to buy their new products.
this happens in cars as well. In the 80s mercedes benz created diesel engines that lasted for literally millions of miles. It was bad for business because customers were buying 190d’s and not buying a new mercedes for 25 years. Most car makers today make their cars with a programmed death. Subaru might be the only exception, and possibly porsche as well.
if ski manufacturers use wood cores on purpose so they lose their mojo after a few years and customers are forced to buy new skis, that is just disgraceful.
if you really want customer loyalty you should make skis that last 10+ years.
if ski makers faced as much liability as binding makers do from customers getting injured by old skis that lost their responsiveness, i bet you would see ski makers using truly awesome composites in their cores that didnt age and were impervious to water damage.
i get that wood is good when its dry and new but theres so much great material science going to waste by using wood instead of other great space age shit.
Dont worry bro. Bernie is going to take my taxes and use it to deliver a brand new nissan skyline gtr into your driveway for your degenerate liberal inferior ass to enjoy for free.
just know that the ubermensches in japan who engineered your beautyful car wouldnt hire you to bring them their fucking coffee you donkey plowing cock festival.
DolanReloadedDont worry bro. Bernie is going to take my taxes and use it to deliver a brand new nissan skyline gtr into your driveway for your degenerate liberal inferior ass to enjoy for free.
just know that the ubermensches in japan who engineered your beautyful car wouldnt hire you to bring them their fucking coffee you donkey plowing cock festival.
air.bubbleI dont know Jack shit about physics of afds and shit nor do I care to be honest, I'm speaking out of my personal experience with these bindings. Everytime I've skied my attacks (2020) by the end of the day I can move my boot up and down in the bindings. Throughout the season I've had techs adjust the bindings just for the same thing to happen, so after Everytime I went skiing I have had to adjust the afd.
Also, you wouldnt even need to unscrew your front binding to get some loctite in there.
You could just stick a glob onto the screw threads that are showing through the square hole in the middle of the foot bed—> then screw the afd screw all the way clockwise until it stops, then unscrew it and rescrew it a few times to coat the nut/screw interface with the loctite.
then you can screw it back to the correct location where you can barely slide your drivers license or business card underneath the boot and you will be good to go.
do that, and i promise you the afd wont unscrew itself while you ski on it anymore.
Loctite is cool stuff and it will keep your pimp hand strong
**This post was edited on Apr 6th 2020 at 9:18:24am
nelsendersonWhat's the point of those fucking rivets? I have those Poachers and all they ever do is catch the other ski when releasing grabs on mutes and blunts.
I think its just a style/trademark kind of thing. K2 has been putting rivets on their skis since the old public enemies came out in the early 2000s.
NO HUMAN WHO SKIS AS HARD/STRONG OR AS OFTEN AS COLBY DOES IS GOING TO MAKE ANY SKI STAY IN TIP TOP SHAPE..
That's just the reality.
(that was fun, going full thall circa 2012 on the all caps)
But in all seriousness....these skis are made for consumers...If you went and observed the condition of any other savage who is close to on Colby's level, no matter what brand...I almost guarantee you that they are actively beating the shit out of their equipment.
pps: the rivets were just for show and had no structural effect on the ski.
ppps: they are not using rivets anymore and so this post is an outdated criticism
pppps: The poacher is a dank park ski that works well for strong skiers because when you push them, they push back in all the right ways. They aren't going to go down without a fight.
Have the rivets changed over the years? I have a pair of 05 Seth Pistols with a solid 300-400 days on them and the rivets are all there. They're beat up and dented, but all still there. Those skis are also about the most indestructible skis I've ever used, although at this point are beat up beyond being a very usable ski.
BLandzJust make ur own skis Dolan you clearly have much more knowledge than k2, armada, and certainly those stupid fuckin french engineers
Its frustrating because i dont think volkl and atomic and head put as much effort as they can into making their park skis durable. Head for example doesnt give a shit, and their skis bust a rail after like 10 hits.
i think americans like k2 and esp armada have great engineers.
the french can suck it. They killed off most of the intelligence genes in the french revolution, and they scare intelligence genes out of the country today with their socialist wealth taxes.
fuck the french. Zidane and candide are the only things in france that get a pass.
BLandzJust make ur own skis Dolan you clearly have much more knowledge than k2, armada, and certainly those stupid fuckin french engineers
I will say that fiscber does seem to make
some bombproof skis from the reviews ive read. Nobody seems to talk about fischers on ns and its too bad bc they seem pretty sick. Ive got my eyes on these 102 waist ranger frs for my next pair:
**This post was edited on Apr 7th 2020 at 9:07:46pm
coronaHave the rivets changed over the years? I have a pair of 05 Seth Pistols with a solid 300-400 days on them and the rivets are all there. They're beat up and dented, but all still there. Those skis are also about the most indestructible skis I've ever used, although at this point are beat up beyond being a very usable ski.
I remember the days when like all the pros were riding pistols. What was their waist width? I remember thinking they were really wide but ski waist inflation makes older skis look like we used to be riding popsicle sticks
DolanReloadedI remember the days when like all the pros were riding pistols. What was their waist width? I remember thinking they were really wide but ski waist inflation makes older skis look like we used to be riding popsicle sticks
Early models around 95mm, later on they were 100, then 105 i think.
But also, most of the Stept crew was on K2s (Recoils). The answer to any complaint about K2's durability is Mutiny
