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NS enforcing ad blocker

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nolaan
Posts: 1318
Maybe a month ago when I came to NS, the website started recognizing that I am using an ad blocker. I know this was hurting the revenue of newschoolers, which I should be supporting because I enjoy this website.

In the past month a variety of ads have come up when I try to watch a new edit. Lately there has been a PS4 ad that is 30 seconds long. Anyone else catching that?

I love NS, and want to support you guys. Does the website have input on how long advertisements can be before videos? If so this is one of you members asking to please minimize those rather long ads.

In a world where there is high quality ski content on different platforms (Slvsh, more athletes uploading directly to youtube like Henrik) I am curious if less people will come to NS if they can watch high qual ski content on Youtube. What do guys think?
I definitely have been getting way shorter ads on Youtube than NS.
Mar 30 2020 12:29PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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I agree, I've always loved NS for their sponsored ads that I never minded, e.g Windells, Ikon/Epic passes, outerwear/skis, etc. Also, the ad-blocker rule NS imposed is just a reminder. You are always free to press the ignore button and after a week, it will prompt you again.

**This post was edited on Mar 30th 2020 at 1:56:15pm
Mar 30 2020 1:55PM
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eheath
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We don't really have control over ads like that, those are sold as part of a package with the parent company/sometimes those placements get filled with google ad sense as well. In season (oct-mar), we have more ads from ski companies, etc but this time of year, ski companies don't advertise and most ads will be filled by google/other non-skiing ad campaigns. These will be 10, 15 and 30 seconds ads and sometime they will have a skip button. You find yourself with a better ad experience on YouTube because they serve 2 billion users a month, they have infinite options for ads and can afford to have short ads/skipable ads on most content. NS doesn't have the capacity to do this, even if we did have the power to choose what ads play where, ad ops at our parent company controls it all.
Mar 30 2020 2:03PM
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nolaan
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eheathWe don't really have control over ads like that, those are sold as part of a package with the parent company/sometimes those placements get filled with google ad sense as well. In season (oct-mar), we have more ads from ski companies, etc but this time of year, ski companies don't advertise and most ads will be filled by google/other non-skiing ad campaigns. These will be 10, 15 and 30 seconds ads and sometime they will have a skip button. You find yourself with a better ad experience on YouTube because they serve 2 billion users a month, they have infinite options for ads and can afford to have short ads/skipable ads on most content. NS doesn't have the capacity to do this, even if we did have the power to choose what ads play where, ad ops at our parent company controls it all.


Thanks for the insight! Your response and knowing it is out of your guys' hands makes me more inclined to sit through it and give you fellas the ad revenue instead of youtube
Apr 1 2020 1:40AM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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Is there a way we could just pay the equivalent of the revenue a user makes NS from ads in order to turn them off? Similar to how a ton of apps/games give you the option of an in-app purchase to turn off ads? I understand not only is that number hard to calculate, but NS =/= a simple app/game and its an ongoing cost, so maybe make it a subscription? Blocking ads because they’re visually annoying is one thing, but the main reasons IMO are privacy, battery life, and even cell network usage if you’ve got a limited plan. I would love to fully support NS while also respecting peoples privacy and not wasting data/battery, it could be a win-win-win

also speaking of battery drain, the lack of a dark mode is really starting to show. Is that in the NS update pipeline yet?
Apr 1 2020 3:38PM
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T.L.
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IanAvery-LeafIs there a way we could just pay the equivalent of the revenue a user makes NS from ads in order to turn them off? Similar to how a ton of apps/games give you the option of an in-app purchase to turn off ads? I understand not only is that number hard to calculate, but NS =/= a simple app/game and its an ongoing cost, so maybe make it a subscription? Blocking ads because they’re visually annoying is one thing, but the main reasons IMO are privacy, battery life, and even cell network usage if you’ve got a limited plan. I would love to fully support NS while also respecting peoples privacy and not wasting data/battery, it could be a win-win-win

also speaking of battery drain, the lack of a dark mode is really starting to show. Is that in the NS update pipeline yet?


Brave browser and Basic Attention Token solves this problem directly. NS could very easily become a publisher and start collecting BAT contributions from users immediately.

I already tip several youtubers monthly and would have no problem allocating a few BAT/month to NS.

It's new, revolutionary, and potentially game changing for the whole outdoor/wintersports industry so I fully expect newschoolers, their parent company, and the industry as a whole to continue to sleep on it.
Apr 9 2020 7:55PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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T.L.NS could very easily become a publisher and start collecting BAT contributions from users immediately

@eheath any insight on this? (And dark mode)
Apr 14 2020 1:56PM
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eheath
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IanAvery-Leaf@eheath any insight on this? (And dark mode)


Honestly, we'll probably do neither. Our tech budget is small(our budget in general is quite small and the current pandemic isn't helping), we pay people to fix problems and do some development on new ideas etc. tag @TRVP_ANGEL if you wanna pressure someone about tech, I'm just the guy who shoots video brother.
Apr 14 2020 2:00PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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eheathHonestly, we'll probably do neither. Our tech budget is small(our budget in general is quite small and the current pandemic isn't helping), we pay people to fix problems and do some development on new ideas etc. tag @TRVP_ANGEL if you wanna pressure someone about tech, I'm just the guy who shoots video brother.

Word I figured as head of content you’d be at least somewhat related to this idea and it’d be a good start, thanks I’ll hittup @TRVP_ANGEL haha
Apr 14 2020 2:04PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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IanAvery-Leaf@eheath any insight on this? (And dark mode)


send me a dark layout design and ill do it.
Apr 14 2020 2:07PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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Dogfartsend me a dark layout design and ill do it.

Like alter some screenshots in photoshop of what should be dark, white, grey, etc, or actually type up some html? I can gladly send you as many screenshots as you need but my very minimal coding days died in high school :(
Apr 14 2020 2:10PM
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eheath
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IanAvery-LeafWord I figured as head of content you’d be at least somewhat related to this idea and it’d be a good start, thanks I’ll hittup @TRVP_ANGEL haha


I am in no way the boss around here, as most people think, I dont even work for NS in the summer now.
Apr 14 2020 2:29PM
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little1337
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eheathI am in no way the boss around here, as most people think, I dont even work for NS in the summer now.


once you hit a million karma you legally own the site
Apr 14 2020 2:59PM
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