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japanadaI have a brand new pro liner if interested. 28.5
.nastyWhere are you seeing a difference of $190? The retail on the 6 vs 8 is only $100.
With that said, the pro liner is definitely a great upgrade over the performance liner. It is a decent bit stiffer overall, whereas the performance liner is a bit soft. They're not quite as stiff as an actual power wrap intuition but as good as it gets with FT. For the extra $100 I think it's worth it. Don't forget your flex though, the 8 will also be stiffer and definitely more of an all mtn boot than the 6.
tomPietrowskiHave you tried out the new liners for next season yet?
Phillydog1Have you seen em? If so, what do you think if the newer performance liners vs pro?
quebeclibreHELLO I read on evo.com that the cuff and shell had a more rigid plastic for 2021 true ???
sorry for my bad English
tomPietrowskiThe new liners in the first chair 130 and 120 are a serious upgrade. They are actually part of the way we increased the flex of the boot. The cuff has been made much stiffer as has the toughness. These too changes help give a more precise feeling and a firmer fit. It actually shares some of the same technology used in the new k2 recon pro 140 flex boot. The foam pact has also been improved to give a firmer fit in the heel and ankle. Still use the ultrasonic foam which is the same used in intuition liners. So yeah some great improvements.
CatdickBojanglesWill I be able to buy them and throw them into my current First Chair 10s and have a stiffer boot? And will they be sold separately like the pro liners are now? Pleas tell me yes.
**This post was edited on Feb 26th 2020 at 8:35:25pm
tomPietrowskiI believe we will sell them yes. The new fc 130 also has the 12 tongue so you may want that too to get yours up to 130.
FlimFlamVanHamold thread but thought I'd post up for the info.
The new FT Pro liner is nothing close to a high density Intuition. I don't know where FT asked China to put the 7mm high density Ultralon, but I'm guessing the heel. The rest is a combination of 4mm open cell and 2mm Ultralon. Compare that to a Power Wrap made entirely out of high density Ultralon: 12mm body and 7mm sole.
Sure the pro liner is stiffer than the other FT offerings, but it's not as stiff as a PW. Why not get the cheapest FT shell that works for you with a sweet flexing 6 tongue and then spend the rest on a power wrap. 12 flex tongue in a FT....please. Sven Coomer would puke. The beauty of the classic is the flex. But hey, bros be charging so hard they need that 12 tongue. BS. Skiers in their 40's and 50's now who raced on Flexons, you're excused because you only know the 10 tongue anyway.
Sorry, I just hate all this seeming conjecture about the goodness of FT's liners. They are fine. IMO they are not $200USD liners. Spend a couple bucks more and get an Intuition. And the pro is not worth the extra $ relative to their performance liner IMO. The both have stiff cuffs and sloppy lowers. Intuition is stiff all over. I have no affiliation with Intuition other than I'm very familiar with their and FT's liners.
Hope this helps influence more informed decisions.