Light touring/sidecountry setup?

Get daymakers, better performance than a frame, kinda the same weight unless adrenalines and newer frames have advanced, downside is less room and more weight in the backpack going down. Also mostly be sure you have all the proper rescue gear and a homie or two.

Let touring setups be touring setups. There's probably some scores in your local area of touring setups people only used once and realized walked up a mountain sucks ass. Frame bindings suck ass. Can't comment on daymakers but if you want to ski more than a single run any added complexity to your transitions eats up precious time and energy.

YES! Its a great side country and short touring set up. But....frame bindings are not that great. they are heavy on the up hill, and the stack height is very noticeable on the down hill. I have some marker EPF dukes that pretty old. sure they are good intermediary for getting into touring and sidecountry, but IMO they are a bad binding design. Go for long snowshoe with skis strapped to your back and see if you like the idea of earning your turns. Not trying to discourage anyone from getting into the back country! But it is definitely not for everyone. I have run into people not having a great time on the skin track and its their first time. Mostly Seattle Amazon workers who just dropped 2 grand on a new set up and kit. Dont be these people! With frame bindings( like most AT bindings) there is sacrifice in performance, coming entirely from the stack height. They really dont ski like any other binding. Edge to edge transfer can feel weird but you get used to it. And hey maybe you think you dont want or care to save weight, but on your third lap you'll feel it. You will have less energy to ski more committing and precarious lines. I think some daymakers would do the trick, try to find some used(ebay, BST ect). If you really enjoy touring, which i hope you do, then think about committing to a full pin set up. From browsing your other treads it seems that you arent super park heavy and are not throwing big spins. Touring is a great way to really enjoy your time in the mountains and avoid a lift ticket. if you tour alot you also get into great shape too. TLDR, i would cop some daymakers, Go have FUN!

pbsYES! Its a great side country and short touring set up. But....frame bindings are not that great. they are heavy on the up hill, and the stack height is very noticeable on the down hill. I have some marker EPF dukes that pretty old. sure they are good intermediary for getting into touring and sidecountry, but IMO they are a bad binding design. Go for long snowshoe with skis strapped to your back and see if you like the idea of earning your turns. Not trying to discourage anyone from getting into the back country! But it is definitely not for everyone. I have run into people not having a great time on the skin track and its their first time. Mostly Seattle Amazon workers who just dropped 2 grand on a new set up and kit. Dont be these people! With frame bindings( like most AT bindings) there is sacrifice in performance, coming entirely from the stack height. They really dont ski like any other binding. Edge to edge transfer can feel weird but you get used to it. And hey maybe you think you dont want or care to save weight, but on your third lap you'll feel it. You will have less energy to ski more committing and precarious lines. I think some daymakers would do the trick, try to find some used(ebay, BST ect). If you really enjoy touring, which i hope you do, then think about committing to a full pin set up. From browsing your other treads it seems that you arent super park heavy and are not throwing big spins. Touring is a great way to really enjoy your time in the mountains and avoid a lift ticket. if you tour alot you also get into great shape too. TLDR, i would cop some daymakers, Go have FUN!

yeah fuck those seattle amazon workers!!!!