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BenWhiti absolutely love my marksman.
they have served me incredibly well at places like bridger bowl, big sky, jackson hole, etc.
they are a plenty burly ski and the only times they feel less than perfect are on hard-pack groomer going mach 3... then you'll start to get some chatter. otherwise, they are incredibly fun ski that pivot easily, are an excellent crud-buster, floaty enough to handle deep days. definitively the best all around ski i've ever owned.
skifreeordieDo you find them buttery enough? Personally, I have JJ’s for pow days and am looking for a more everyday ski. I’m an ex park rat ( I’m 35 now ) and live in the PNW, so looking for a ski that I can press real easily and that’s super playful that I can jib around the hill with and take through the park to hit some rails with when I want to. I’ve really liked flexy skis in the past - k2 obsethed and line anthems were up there with my favs, had a pair of icelatic nomads rkr’s and hated them. Of course being in the PNW, we do have heavy snow so I do want something to at least hold it’s own in the crud, but I’d prioritize playfulness over being a crud buster.
Marksman seem like a good choice, but I wonder if they’re park forward enough vs the bacons. One concern that I do not have with the marksman is not being able to switch skis around to mitigate rail damage... I grew up getting at least twice the amount of days that I do now and completely destroying my edges and while riding east coast ice so I’m used to that.
Again, seems somewhat like a win/win decision but I’m really torn on this.
BenWhitfirst things first - you cannot alternate skis to mitigate edge wear/damage with the marksman. they have an asymmetrical sidecut. if you were to switch feet, you would be completely changing the turn radius of your skis and would drastically affect the way they ski. they would still be skiable, but would feel completely different and ultimately would not release out of a turn the same way. maybe i misread your comment, but just want to be completely clear about that.
i find them to be plenty playful but buttering/pressing has never really been my thing, so I can't speak to that. however, i am able to do basically anything i want with the ski, so there's that. i've done my fair share of park laps on them and they've done just fine.
skifreeordieAh yes, I understand that. Maybe the way I typed it was confusing, but what I said / meant was I know that you can’t alternate skis but that I’m cool with that.
Just thought that’d I’d bring it up before someone else did, because I see it mentioned a lot on here when mentioning the marksman along with park performance.
Either way, I appreciate the feedback on the skis.
-arc-Honestly the jeffrey 108 sounds perfect for you.
skifreeordieI didn't know much about this ski until this comment other than seeing its name thrown around a ton. I see that its a stiffer and heavier marksman type ski thats not super buttery, which didn't sound appealing at all at first. But after reading about it, people seem to love these things. And yeah - seem to be made for jibbing around everywhere and everything in the PNW. I might have to head to evo to flex these things and check them out.
You my friend just made a tough decision a lot tougher!
-arc-The great thing about the Jeffrey is that it's not the flex that makes the ski playful, it's the shape. My quiver this year is going to be Jeffrey 108's with Adrenaline 16's, and Billy Goats with Attack 13's. Very excited.
skifreeordieWell, you’ve successfully shifted my choice to Marksman vs Jeffreys. Kinda funny, cause now the marksman are the softer of the two, but from what I read on blister - they’re very similar in shape, feel, and rocker. Seems like the jeffreys are just a tad stiffer.
Still might cop some on3p’s since they seem like they’re made for the PNW and it’s hard to find any reviews that aren’t raving. Plus stability is probably more important than I’d like to admit, not as much due to preference of how I like to ride, but more so where I live.
Right now considering Jeffrey’s in 176.
skifreeordieReturned the Marksman and pulled the trigger on the 181 Jeffreys. Mounting -2 back from center when I get them...