Looking for touring bindings, compatible with current boot/ski setup

You need touring boots. SPKs are about as far from touring boots as you can get. Touring boots need to have the tech inserts for those bindings.

CatdickBojanglesYou need touring boots. SPKs are about as far from touring boots as you can get. Touring boots need to have the tech inserts for those bindings.

Not for Guardians. MNC means multi norm certified you can rock any boot

CaseyNot for Guardians. MNC means multi norm certified you can rock any boot

My bad I was thinking the guardian was the Salomon branded shift.

CatdickBojanglesMy bad I was thinking the guardian was the Salomon branded shift.

its called the shift g

CalumSKIits called the shift g

Too many beers with thanksgiving dinner made me forget

CatdickBojanglesToo many beers with thanksgiving dinner made me forget

Lol

CaseyNot for Guardians. MNC means multi norm certified you can rock any boot

Good stuff - any recommendation on a touring binding other than that one?

flipngripGood stuff - any recommendation on a touring binding other than that one?

To use with SPKs?

Your options in no particular order:
-Salomon/Atomic Guardian
-Tyrolia Ambition or Adrenaline?
-Marker Baron, Duke, F12, F10

You can research those and see which best suits your needs? That list is just off the top of my head for frame bindings, I may have left something out.

Or a set of Daymakers and any alpine binding.

128 underfoot is a big ski to tour on, have fun buying skins.

RudyGarmischOr a set of Daymakers and any alpine binding.

128 underfoot is a big ski to tour on, have fun buying skins.

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mystery3To use with SPKs?

Your options in no particular order:
-Salomon/Atomic Guardian
-Tyrolia Ambition or Adrenaline?
-Marker Baron, Duke, F12, F10

You can research those and see which best suits your needs? That list is just off the top of my head for frame bindings, I may have left something out.

I bought a pair of Dukes a few years ago. My internet research of specs and reviews showed no clear winner in the beefy frame binding category between those. My intended purpose was a slack country powder ski / day trip touring that I could ride inbounds like an alpine ski and not have to make weird decisions about what skis to pack and bring 3 pairs of skis with me to the mountain or plan on switching skis at lunch or whatever. It kind of surprised me how hard frame bindings became obsolete. I’d like to get a tech set up but I don’t think many people are rocking tech bindings inbounds and the amount of serious mountaineers that require the weight savings seems relatively low to me. Who knows

CaseyI bought a pair of Dukes a few years ago. My internet research of specs and reviews showed no clear winner in the beefy frame binding category between those. My intended purpose was a slack country powder ski / day trip touring that I could ride inbounds like an alpine ski and not have to make weird decisions about what skis to pack and bring 3 pairs of skis with me to the mountain or plan on switching skis at lunch or whatever. It kind of surprised me how hard frame bindings became obsolete. I’d like to get a tech set up but I don’t think many people are rocking tech bindings inbounds and the amount of serious mountaineers that require the weight savings seems relatively low to me. Who knows

A few years ago I'd have agreed with you. There weren't really any tech bindings with the safety characteristics and durability to ski inbounds. I did the same thing and bought Guardians. They were fine then, but a lot has changed since then.

Atomic / Salomon's Shift is literally what you are describing, it's a touring binding that's as safe and reliable as an inbounds binding. I'd argue it's the true frame binding killer, not tech bindings.

Second, where you live really affects how many people you see riding tech bindings inbounds. Here in the Tetons we see a lot. In other places, with less backcountry or side-country access, you'll see less. That said, riding a tech binding hard inbounds every day is stupid. That's how you break bindings, or your body.

Third: It's not all about weight. In fact, in my opinion, it's barely about weight. Tech toes allow you have a much, much more efficient stride. By bringing the pivot closer to the ball of your foot where you'd usually pivot while walking you can have a much more natural stride uphill. It also allows you to be more precise and in control when side-hilling and kick turning. If you haven't ever walked in a tech toe, it's hard to understand how much of a night and day difference it is. I went from skiing a bunch of volcanoes and stuff in Glacier on frame bindings one year, to buying a tech binding the next season, and I wouldn't even skin the bunny hill at the ski resort on a frame binding anymore. Tech toes are just way, way more efficient.

cydwhitA few years ago I'd have agreed with you. There weren't really any tech bindings with the safety characteristics and durability to ski inbounds. I did the same thing and bought Guardians. They were fine then, but a lot has changed since then.

Atomic / Salomon's Shift is literally what you are describing, it's a touring binding that's as safe and reliable as an inbounds binding. I'd argue it's the true frame binding killer, not tech bindings.

Second, where you live really affects how many people you see riding tech bindings inbounds. Here in the Tetons we see a lot. In other places, with less backcountry or side-country access, you'll see less. That said, riding a tech binding hard inbounds every day is stupid. That's how you break bindings, or your body.

Third: It's not all about weight. In fact, in my opinion, it's barely about weight. Tech toes allow you have a much, much more efficient stride. By bringing the pivot closer to the ball of your foot where you'd usually pivot while walking you can have a much more natural stride uphill. It also allows you to be more precise and in control when side-hilling and kick turning. If you haven't ever walked in a tech toe, it's hard to understand how much of a night and day difference it is. I went from skiing a bunch of volcanoes and stuff in Glacier on frame bindings one year, to buying a tech binding the next season, and I wouldn't even skin the bunny hill at the ski resort on a frame binding anymore. Tech toes are just way, way more efficient.

However - get ready to essentially buy an entire second quiver, boots and more once you move to tech.