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Human Pulled Groomer Drag Ideas

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GregSnow
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I am looking for ideas to make a human pulled snow drag to groom out the trails for my rope tow. I currently don't have a snowmobile (hopefully next season 🤞) but I need a better way to even out the trails for this winter. I'm looking for an effective design that will even out the high and low spots on the trail and also break up larger chunks. I'm not really looking for a design that packs down soft snow as I snowshoe the whole hill anyways. Throw me your best ideas whether it's dragging a chain link fence or welding up a whole rig.

**This thread was edited on Nov 23rd 2019 at 10:47:46pm
Nov 23 2019 9:54PM
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theabortionator
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Dragging a metal box spring frame behind a snowmobile is ghetto but surprisingly effective. As far as human powered I dont really know. I've seen videos and pictures of the old school ones but don't know a lot about them.
Nov 23 2019 10:15PM
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Saucerboyshane
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rope connected to a 2x4 then like 4ft of chain every couple inches (depending on how long you make it) then another 2x4 on other end. Excuse my terrible art work, also you can add weight to the rear 2x4 for more compacting
Nov 23 2019 10:16PM
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860media*
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I know some homies that snagged some corrugated tubes and rolled them down the hill to pack some snow. Maybe add some sand or type of weight and it could work possibly
Nov 23 2019 10:19PM
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Gondola
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Go onto Fallline.com and buy a grommer thing they go on snowcats but you could easily tie a rope on to it and drag it behind you
Nov 24 2019 2:37PM
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DominatorJacques
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Modify a snow blower.
Nov 24 2019 2:42PM
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_IRRELEVANT_
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DominatorJacquesModify a snow blower.


Maybe cut the whole blower part off and weld a plow on the front you would have to make sure it has power wheels first
Nov 24 2019 3:05PM
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GreezyBastard
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Those things they use to grade baseball fields
Nov 24 2019 3:09PM
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burnsey.
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https://www.snowgroomers.net/sno-blaster/

They use these on the local fat bike trails. Idk if you’re willing to spend that much but maybe you’ll get some inspiration from their design.
Nov 24 2019 3:11PM
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DominatorJacques
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_IRRELEVANT_Maybe cut the whole blower part off and weld a plow on the front you would have to make sure it has power wheels first

One would use the auger portion to till, then add a packer plate behind that.
Nov 24 2019 3:38PM
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PsychicMigration
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I usually use a rake but my setups are smaller.
Nov 24 2019 4:13PM
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HypeBeast
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May I ask why you want to groom? I'm more of a leave it be type of person but if you're doing it for park features or for another good reason I could understand
Nov 25 2019 12:33AM
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Non_State_Actor
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GreezyBastardThose things they use to grade baseball fields


The screen or the nailboard?

You could probably make a decent screen out of a piece of chainlink fencing, with a rope tied on, probably better if it's doubled over and you could toss a pallet or two on top to keep it flatter and add some weight.
Nov 25 2019 12:44AM
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Liam_j10
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Get one of those little tiny rakes from mini nightstand sand boxes
Nov 26 2019 4:00PM
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clorox
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Make a second pulley system parallel to your ropetow. Run a pulley from the motor to one of the pulleys on the other side, so that power is distributed evenly between the two sides. Then you can connect something from one side to the other so that running the rope tow will groom the entire trail. Might need a skier to hold it up to clear features tho.
Nov 26 2019 4:26PM
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OregonDead
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One post from OP and nothing more? You should share your rope tow hill and just make people help you groom. Maybe invite us to come over and ski IDK
Nov 26 2019 5:00PM
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AndrewGravesSV
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Get a fleet of friends to side step it nad rake the uneven sections
Nov 26 2019 6:29PM
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bogust
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use one of these big steel asphalt rakes
Nov 26 2019 7:25PM
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lauraobermeyer
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borrow a local plow horse
Nov 26 2019 7:35PM
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_IRRELEVANT_
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Get one of these
Nov 26 2019 9:15PM
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DominatorJacques
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_IRRELEVANT_

Get one of these

I knew I should have got these guys. Too late now!




https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/805107/Driving-To-And-From-Mt--Bachelor-You--39-re-Not-In-The-City-Now-Take-It-Easy-
Nov 26 2019 9:24PM
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GregSnow
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OregonDeadOne post from OP and nothing more? You should share your rope tow hill and just make people help you groom. Maybe invite us to come over and ski IDK


Sorry been busy the past few days! I generally invite a bunch of people out to work on it. Just looking for ways to streamline the process
Nov 27 2019 4:14PM
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GregSnow
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DominatorJacquesModify a snow blower.

This is crazy enough it could actually work!! 😂 We've got an old snow blower laying around just needs some engine work. I won't guarantee I'll follow through with this idea but now you've got me thinking!
Nov 27 2019 4:21PM
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GregSnow
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BlumpkinPumpkinMay I ask why you want to groom? I'm more of a leave it be type of person but if you're doing it for park features or for another good reason I could understand

I try to keep it half natural and half groomed. I mainly groom the trails with rails and jumps on them but raking out a trail just takes too long
Nov 27 2019 4:37PM
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DominatorJacques
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GregSnowThis is crazy enough it could actually work!! 😂 We've got an old snow blower laying around just needs some engine work. I won't guarantee I'll follow through with this idea but now you've got me thinking!

It could be done if a guy had a shop and was handy. IDK but maybe a track blower would be best.
Nov 27 2019 4:54PM
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GregSnow
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DominatorJacquesIt could be done if a guy had a shop and was handy. IDK but maybe a track blower would be best.


Yeah tracks would definitely help with getting it back up the hill
Nov 27 2019 5:00PM
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GregSnow
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Here is a smaller drag I found used to groom out fat bike trails. Maybe I'll build up something like this
Nov 27 2019 5:08PM
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SnickleFriz
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/946125/YANKEE-STADIUM-7TH-INNING-STRETCH
Nov 27 2019 5:26PM
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GregSnow
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SnickleFrizhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/946125/YANKEE-STADIUM-7TH-INNING-STRETCH


Hahaha this is perfect!! 😂
Nov 27 2019 5:45PM
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CharlzHub
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Get a sheet of ply and whack a bunch of nails through it so they’re all sticking out the bottom. Then attach a rope to the end and tow it up the rope tow behind you. Should do a pretty good job of cutting up all the snow and dragging it off the high spots
Nov 27 2019 6:03PM
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GregSnow
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CharlzHubGet a sheet of ply and whack a bunch of nails through it so they’re all sticking out the bottom. Then attach a rope to the end and tow it up the rope tow behind you. Should do a pretty good job of cutting up all the snow and dragging it off the high spots


Nice and simple, not a bad idea
Nov 27 2019 8:49PM
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