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shin-bang18s or nothin
a_burgerwhats the consensus on these? I've had a few pairs of older pivots/FKS for a few years but the oldest set are falling apart now and rather then keep throwing spare parts in them I want to buy some new bindings. I remember there being some issues with these or something back when they first came out, or people were saying the new toe piece sucks. Any thoughts?
shin-bang18s or nothin
shin-bangHaving ridden both 14s and 18s I will never ride 14s ever. Toe piece is totally worth it
.nastyIt also has no vertical release which probably 75% of the people using them would benefit having as they don't ride hard enough to justify an 18. The 18 toe has a better power transfer sure, but it's overkill for most unless you just have that small dick syndrome.
shin-bangI wasn’t really taking this thread seriously. Hence my 18 din or nothing suggestion. As well as the 18 vs 14 debate has been brought up thousands of times.
But, since you spoke up, I don’t believe that’s true about vertical release.
A. I can turn my din all the way down and I can lift the back end of the toe piece up, simulating a toe release. As well as having released from them before. If I had my skis with me I could make a video.
B. Evo seems to support my experience and theory.
(Note, this schematic was for the 18s, not the 14s)
But yea, that’s what I’ve come to understand.
I know plenty of people including pros that weigh around a buck 50 using 18s, and riding them at low settings because the better toe piece and feel.
SavageBiffPertaining to the part about buying 18s for the better toe piece and feel and riding low settings....
Would this not cause pre release and just overall malfunction .... I’ve always been told bindings don’t work really close like within 2 of their max and min
I just bought 14s bc of this , I don’t need 18s
However, I’m in need of another binding in the 117+ , for powder , and I haven’t mounted the 14s yet , so if there’s something I’m missing ...
mystery3Are the AW replacing the WTR or the other way around?
One of the years has a toepiece that isn't really adjustable, it only has two positions and some people have had slop/play issues .
SavageBiffSo is the aw also a piece of junk ?
SavageBiffI already bought pivot aw 14s in a 95 for my apostles but they r not mounted
I could maybe return or sell or even test em out for the community see if they e improved???
I’m not looking at sth2 for outlines for deep pow
Really just looking to learn as much as possible as my quiver expands the old gets recycled needs replaced new shot comes out that I absolutely must have lol
skeirmanI rode AW's all this season with zero issues. They're solid.
Cheech_SanderAW is replacing WTR as GripWalk soled boots become more common. They're basically the same thing.
I don't understand why they don't just make a removable AFD and sell the p-18s with both AFD's.
It's a tiny plastic piece with some teflon, can't cost more than $1-2 to make an AFD.
And for us 200+ pounders, it really is "18's or nothin".
I ski them at a 14-din and have double ejected many times when I fuck up.
KevskiSo the next question I guess is, for those of us who use our gripwalk boots for the everyday - is the pivot AW still among the best park/resort bindings that features an adjustable AFD? Or would one look into attacks or solly sth's since it isn't the p15/18 metal toe?
I always just assumed I'd be putting pivots on my new jeffrey 96s but now who knows?