Problems with the ski industry or really the whole outdoor adventure industry

DesertStixI teach in an inner city with a very diverse student body but go off

What class do you teach mr chokesondick?
“AP Why socialism will work this time, we promise, just give it one more chance”?

KevskiTo put it politely you literally sound like the biggest pile of shit. If you had a grain of compassion or vague interest in understanding others you would know that you are spewing complete nonsense.
It really isn't difficult to grasp that language carries deep societal consequences and that there's widespread benefit to caring for others (in whatever group they might be [mis]judged for). Worst case, you're just nice and make someone's day a little less shitty. Best case, you save their life.
Another concept you seem to fail to understand is that you simply aren't qualified to speak on behalf of a community you [presumably] are not a part of. Especially if you aren't even listening to what they have to say.

Seriously, before you defend your laziness or ignorance just think for a second about what you're saying and what it implies.

Please keep in mind that just because you are part of a community, doesn't qualify you to speak on the behalf of everyone in that community either.

johnblazePlease keep in mind that just because you are part of a community, doesn't qualify you to speak on the behalf of everyone in that community either.

Totally agreed. There are definitely nuances any time someone’s speaking about or on behalf of others - at the end of the day you’re really only fully qualified to speak of your own experiences. But if you’re involved in the community and sharing firsthand experiences then really I do think that warrants the kind of qualification to make broader statements, for example about the presence of homophobia/racism/sexism in society.

An indigenous person once told me “Nothing about us, without us.” Best to keep everyone at the table before making assumptions.

Crust_StationHomophobia, transphobia and misogyny that seems to be so deeply ingrained in the action sports community.
Inb4 someone mentions Gus Kenworthy.
its impossible to ski through a park without hearing people call shit gay or discredit great skiers because theyre female, etc.
Important to me because Im a queer person

While I do agree that this is an issue, albeit less so than it was in the past, it's not just an issue unique to adventure or action sports. If anything it's more prevalent in other sports. Professional soccer in Europe has huge problems with racism, and any U.S. high-school soccer, football, hockey or basketball team is not going to be welcoming to anyone who is different. I think the ski and snowboard industry is actually one of the most welcoming communities that I've seen.

Again, not that these issues don't exist, but it's not just the ski industry or the worst in the ski industry

Ski areas don't make it easy for lower income kids to gain access to the sport. It's purely a rich (maybe now poor) person sport.


ALSO!!!!! THE AMOUNT OF FAMILIES IN THE BACKCOUNTRY WITH ZERO GEAR AND MULTIPLE KIDS.
(if you're that person I kind of hate you)

AbiHALSO!!!!! THE AMOUNT OF FAMILIES IN THE BACKCOUNTRY WITH ZERO GEAR AND MULTIPLE KIDS.
(if you're that person I kind of hate you)

kids provide great buoyancy when caught in an avalanche

Mtuhockey33They keep jacking up lift ticket prices but don’t do shit for their employees. They treat their employees that keep things running the worst and don’t give them adequate work wear (Aspen Snowmass’ employees don’t even have waterproof Helly Hansen work wear). They’re constantly understaffed and will hire temp workers at $2/hr more than their full time employees. They own the employee housing but keep jacking up housing costs while giving their employees that have been there for years $.25 raises. It’s a joke. I could keep going on and on but I’ll stop. /rant.


edit: I totally forgot that Aspen and all their “environmental” bullshit are still going to turn wildlife conservation land into a new lift and a brand new hotel that we definitely need 🙄

**This post was edited on May 21st 2019 at 10:31:07am

This... day tickets are just too expensive.. 100$ is fine 120$ I can deal with but 150 plus you are tripping Vail resorts can go to hell.

haha this thread is a shit storm.

OP:Problems with the ski industry?

NS: GAYS & SHITTY UNIFORMS

I feel like people ruin action sports. They've gotten so popular over the years that being alone and having a solo day out is getting more and more rare. Especially in surfing I've noticed more and more people crowding the lineups even in the Winter when there would usually only be around 1 or 2 people out. I know that sounds super pretentious since I'm part of the crowd, but it's still sometimes annoying when you show up at the beach and can't park because it's full of out of state cars. I guess the plus side is that it's getting people outside and exercising, which is never a bad thing.

AbiHSki areas don't make it easy for lower income kids to gain access to the sport. It's purely a rich (maybe now poor) person sport.


ALSO!!!!! THE AMOUNT OF FAMILIES IN THE BACKCOUNTRY WITH ZERO GEAR AND MULTIPLE KIDS.
(if you're that person I kind of hate you)

Your being a brat. Some family that lives in SLC can skin a well travelled cottonwoods track without a recent transplant complaining on a ski website. What’s the kid gonna do bite you? They weigh less so it won’t be them who triggers a slide.


Can’t make this shit up lol.

PeppermillRenoYour being a brat. Some family that lives in SLC can skin a well travelled cottonwoods track without a recent transplant complaining on a ski website. What’s the kid gonna do bite you? They weigh less so it won’t be them who triggers a slide.


Can’t make this shit up lol.

I saw no mention of SLC and based on my experiences this happens all the time in CO with dumbass tourists who get in over their heads and then have to be rescued putting others at danger.


she has a good point. If you don’t have the gear or knowledge, you don’t deserve and outright just shouldn’t be in the backcountry.

Congratulations on having a family that can afford to live in one of the richest areas in the US (Ski towns are way more expensive than anywhere else) and you were just lucky enough to be born into that family. Fuck off with the transplant bullshit. I’m sorry I wasn’t born in your great state, I’m just trying to make it better.

Mtuhockey33I saw no mention of SLC and based on my experiences this happens all the time in CO with dumbass tourists who get in over their heads and then have to be rescued putting others at danger.


she has a good point. If you don’t have the gear or knowledge, you don’t deserve and outright just shouldn’t be in the backcountry.

Congratulations on having a family that can afford to live in one of the richest areas in the US (Ski towns are way more expensive than anywhere else) and you were just lucky enough to be born into that family. Fuck off with the transplant bullshit. I’m sorry I wasn’t born in your great state, I’m just trying to make it better.

Im from MA and have never pulled off a successful transplant though I've come close when driving out west to ski indefinitely. Im the biggest failure on this website with that regard

08 - July-November in Reno ran out of money before a 600 inch winter had a pass paid for
11- Maybe 10 weeks at the Peppermill and other spots Rose pass no car/license
12- Reno early Nov made it to Jan then had to leave
13- Jan-April was in Reno but not much snow plenty of $$$ that year
14- thought I was gonna marry and move in with a single mom in Aspen but she changed her mind. Plenty of $$$ that year too business was great.
19- Crested Butte employee fired spent Nov-Dec in Tahoe skiing Kwood b/c there was no snow in CB

I have tried just failed every time.

OP has transplanted to SLC and was getting butthurt about seeing little kids outside of resorts on skins with their rents. Those aren't gaper familys who need to stick to the greens they know what they are doing and are the last people who will cause a slide. Experts eyeing up nice lines pose a far greater risk than a family.

Dogfartkids provide great buoyancy when caught in an avalanche

Do you think youre clever you shit raping clown-prostitute?

**This post was edited on Apr 26th 2020 at 4:15:38pm