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Skater Vs Skier debate

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dan38
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So a friend of mine who’s big in to skating and I got into a debate a while ago about which sport had more possible tricks. Even including jumps he claimed skating has way more possible trick variations but imo that can’t be right. With the amount of grabs and flip/spin combinations alone I feel skiing has more possibilities and that’s even before you get to rails... anyways help us decide.
Apr 22 2019 2:51PM
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LukeTheWaffle
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Depends how big you can go. In theory skateboarding because if you're REALLLY AMAZING you could do every snowboard trick, with flip tricks, shuvs, body varial etc.
Apr 22 2019 2:59PM
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e.littt
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From just the amount of rail combos alone I would say skiing has more tricks. But that being said a terrain park is a pretty different place then a skate park so there is more opportunity for combos to be had in skiing
Apr 22 2019 3:31PM
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ChadThundercock
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Bro I did a double impossible off El Toro - fuck wit me.
Apr 22 2019 3:34PM
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SinkOrSki
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Skating is going to have more possibilities, it's already where most ski tricks got adapted from it will probably continue to innovate faster

**This post was edited on Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:38:00pm
Apr 22 2019 5:19PM
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broto
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skateboarding 100%
Apr 22 2019 5:21PM
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GrandThings
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Yeah pretty sure it would be skating. You have just as many grab combos, plus board flip variations, plus grind variations, plus fakie and switch
Apr 22 2019 6:30PM
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Non_State_Actor
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brotoskateboarding 100%


This. If skateboards were attached to ones feet then I'd say skiing. Skiing has more possible tricks than does wakeboarding for instance.
Apr 22 2019 6:30PM
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mitchzyzelewski
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Ever played skate 3?
Apr 22 2019 6:59PM
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hootsquad
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skateboarding. I still see NBD flat ground tricks pretty regularly on insta, how often do you see an NBD jump trick for skiing?
Apr 22 2019 8:46PM
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wasatch_rat
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Skateboarding by a lot
Apr 22 2019 9:30PM
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270on420out
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Flatground tricks alone probably outnumber ski tricks
Apr 22 2019 10:10PM
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ASSholebomber22
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Both possibilities are endless. This is a pretty dumb debate even for NS standards
Apr 22 2019 10:16PM
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Static
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i think a lot of you guys are forgetting about pole tricks and polish donuts
Apr 23 2019 2:42AM
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LukeTheWaffle
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Statici think a lot of you guys are forgetting about pole tricks and polish donuts

In theory if your mountain is bing bing enough you could do an infinite polish donut, and would going up on a magic carpet count as interrupting the donut?
Apr 23 2019 4:38AM
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skiguy04
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Only been one sport in history that is infinite....


&& it’s rollerblading
Apr 23 2019 11:48PM
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PsychicMigration
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Now that my friend is oo vs oo. If you want to get into it you have to define what a trick is he’ll jumping could be a trick. Therefore there are any number of tricks. It’s all about creativity and creating a style for yourself.
Apr 24 2019 8:43AM
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shinbangclan
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mystery3This. If skateboards were attached to ones feet then I'd say skiing. Skiing has more possible tricks than does wakeboarding for instance.


this exactly. simply the ability to rotate the board on any axis, in four different stances, and also being able to spin yourself is already putting the variations of flatground well into the hundreds if not thousands. That's not even taking into consideration the other disciplines of skating, which there are many. Think of how much more variety one handrail adds to someone who knows how to flip the board.
Apr 24 2019 9:14AM
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berniesenders
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How about ripstickers and scooterers?
Apr 24 2019 11:47AM
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skiguy04
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hubbardsthis exactly. simply the ability to rotate the board on any axis, in four different stances, and also being able to spin yourself is already putting the variations of flatground well into the hundreds if not thousands. That's not even taking into consideration the other disciplines of skating, which there are many. Think of how much more variety one handrail adds to someone who knows how to flip the board.

Max 3 possible flipping axis a board can flip... which is the only thing skateboarding has that rollerblading doesn’t

Rollerblades can access more terrain and do more tricks on said terrain than any other sport period

Can’t stair bash up stairs with a skateboard

Rollerblades can
Apr 25 2019 3:17PM
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Static
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skiguy04Max 3 possible flipping axis a board can flip... which is the only thing skateboarding has that rollerblading doesn’t


I mean you are ignoring the 4 stance options as well, compared to 2. And if youre gonna count running up the stairs you can definitely do that with a skateboard using your choice of grab.
Apr 25 2019 3:55PM
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GrandThings
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skiguy04Max 3 possible flipping axis a board can flip... which is the only thing skateboarding has that rollerblading doesn’t

Rollerblades can access more terrain and do more tricks on said terrain than any other sport period

Can’t stair bash up stairs with a skateboard

Rollerblades can


Lol duh? Literally everything in the world only has 3 axes.

But your forgetting about double flips (x3 axes)....and triple flips (x3 axes).... and late flips (x3 axes)....and backfoot flips (x3 axes)....and pressure flips (x3 axes)....and no complys (x3 axes). Multiply all those (x4) for the stances (regular, nollie, switch, fakie) and grinds (too many to even count but like 10 per truck + slide variations) and grabs (just as many as snowboarding & skiing) plus any body varials (backflip, spins, corks etc.).

Plus all the random shit I cant even think of primo, hand flip, hand stands, stalls, etc.

Skateboarding has more tricks than all the other action sports combined.
Apr 25 2019 4:09PM
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SofaKingSick
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skiguy04Max 3 possible flipping axis a board can flip... which is the only thing skateboarding has that rollerblading doesn’t

Rollerblades can access more terrain and do more tricks on said terrain than any other sport period

Can’t stair bash up stairs with a skateboard

Rollerblades can


you forgot to mention all the possibilities rollerskate waitressing opens up on the blades too

Apr 25 2019 4:12PM
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MF_GOON
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if this is all just theoretical then skateboarding by fucking miles.
Apr 25 2019 4:44PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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skiguy04Max 3 possible flipping axis a board can flip... which is the only thing skateboarding has that rollerblading doesn’t

Rollerblades can access more terrain and do more tricks on said terrain than any other sport period

Can’t stair bash up stairs with a skateboard

Rollerblades can


Yeah but roller blading doesn’t look as kewl as skateboarding.
Apr 25 2019 7:29PM
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skiguy04
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StaticI mean you are ignoring the 4 stance options as well, compared to 2. And if youre gonna count running up the stairs you can definitely do that with a skateboard using your choice of grab.

UP stairbash on blades ** anybody can run up stairs holding a board.

4 stances... cool... limited to 3 variations of board rotation and 360 degrees of rotation... that’s not shabby but still not close to the amount of variation on rollerblades!!

But I digress... quality over quantity and that’s why blading takes the cake across the board (ironically)
Govygen_gourmetYeah but roller blading doesn’t look as kewl as skateboarding.

Ever seen a guy 450 into a grind shoulder height, from flat, on a kinked two story drop rail???

Checkmate
Apr 26 2019 1:52AM
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ChadThundercock
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skiguy04UP stairbash on blades ** anybody can run up stairs holding a board.

4 stances... cool... limited to 3 variations of board rotation and 360 degrees of rotation... that’s not shabby but still not close to the amount of variation on rollerblades!!

But I digress... quality over quantity and that’s why blading takes the cake across the board (ironically)

Ever seen a guy 450 into a grind shoulder height, from flat, on a kinked two story drop rail???

Checkmate


Oh yeah, blading is infinitly cooler than skateboarding
Apr 26 2019 1:53AM
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skiguy04
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Bitcoinblading is infinitly cooler than skateboarding
*INFINITELY
Now you got it

But actually there’s no such thing as cool... except for big stunts with high degree of technicality ... which blading does best always
Apr 26 2019 2:10AM
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ChadThundercock
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skiguy04*INFINITELY
Now you got it

But actually there’s no such thing as cool... except for big stunts with high degree of technicality ... which blading does best always


Alright grammar Nazi
Apr 26 2019 2:21AM
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skiguy04
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BitcoinAlright grammar Nazi
oh yeah, avoid posting something meaningful cause you are overly sarcastic and classic sign of something stuck in the closet.
Your head is thick
Apr 26 2019 2:26AM
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ChadThundercock
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skiguy04oh yeah, avoid posting something meaningful cause you are overly sarcastic and classic sign of something stuck in the closet.
Your head is thick


Got a main bitch, and a mistress. Couple T-Girls I'm so hood rich. I've embraced my bisexual tendencies since a young age friend, and I love how they anger others.

Twice as much ass
Apr 26 2019 2:34AM
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skiguy04
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BitcoinGot a main bitch, and a mistress. Couple T-Girls I'm so hood rich. I've embraced my bisexual tendencies since a young age friend, and I love how they anger others.

Twice as much ass
Oh yeah!

You seem like the type to be into men primarily though
Apr 26 2019 2:39AM
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ChadThundercock
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skiguy04Oh yeah!

You seem like the type to be into men primarily though


You seem like the type that would end up getting punked out in a prison situation
Apr 26 2019 2:43AM
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shinbangclan
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imagine blading

**This post was edited on Apr 26th 2019 at 8:48:44am
Apr 26 2019 8:48AM
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207
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the real debate is who gets more ass skier or skater kids
Apr 26 2019 12:25PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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Stop trying to make rollerblading happen it’s not going to happen skateboarding is too dominant it don’t matter what sport has more tricks (skateboarding is By Far the Most technical sport you can learn) nothing will come close and that’s just facts... the amount of people that enjoy Skateboarding vastly outnumbers every other pussy ass sport ya’ll trying to come up with Rollerblading? Gtfo of the skatepark
Apr 26 2019 3:28PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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I meant to say “Thas Faccs B”
Apr 26 2019 3:29PM
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skiguy04
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ChadThundercockI've embraced my bisexual tendencies since a young age friend

Twice as much ass


ChadThundercockYou seem like the type that would end up getting punked out in a prison situation
You definitely getting more punked out in a prison situation

207the real debate is who gets more ass skier or skater kids


Depends on your tendancies haha
Apr 28 2019 10:12PM
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skiguy04
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Govygen_gourmetStop trying to make rollerblading happen it’s not going to happen skateboarding is too dominant it don’t matter what sport has more tricks (skateboarding is By Far the Most technical sport you can learn) nothing will come close and that’s just facts... the amount of people that enjoy Skateboarding vastly outnumbers every other pussy ass sport ya’ll trying to come up with Rollerblading? Gtfo of the skatepark

Trend following dick rider - you would never say gtfo the skatepark to my face but that’s besides the point...
Apr 28 2019 10:19PM
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1spliff2guinnies
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There is no possible argument to suggest that skiing has more tricks (in a vacuum) than skating. The fact that you aren't attached to the board and you can do shit like primos and darkslides creates thousands more variations.
Apr 28 2019 10:50PM
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ChadThundercock
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skiguy04You definitely getting more punked out in a prison situation


Depends on your tendancies haha


I'm the one soliciting the punks bitch, you'd be first up to bat hoe
Apr 28 2019 11:58PM
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skiguy04
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Grindy_McSliderThere is no possible argument to suggest that skiing has more tricks (in a vacuum) than skating. The fact that you aren't attached to the board and you can do shit like primos and darkslides creates thousands more variations.

Okay here:
180, 360, 540, 720, 900 etc. done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, d spin....
720 900 1080 1260 1440 done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, d spin....and double cork
1080, 1260, 1440, 1620 done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, spin ... and triple cork

Now multiply that all by 4 for unnatural rotation, backwards/fakie, shifty and blender

..:Now multiply that by 2 for nose butter and tail butter

Boom more tricks than skate boarding and you don’t even have to grab

ChadThundercockI'm the one soliciting the punks bitch, you'd be first up to bat hoe

You a hoe
Apr 30 2019 5:47AM
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ChadThundercock
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skiguy04Okay here:
180, 360, 540, 720, 900 etc. done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, d spin....
720 900 1080 1260 1440 done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, d spin....and double cork
1080, 1260, 1440, 1620 done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, spin ... and triple cork

Now multiply that all by 4 for unnatural rotation, backwards/fakie, shifty and blender

..:Now multiply that by 2 for nose butter and tail butter

Boom more tricks than skate boarding and you don’t even have to grab


You a hoe


Get the fuck out of here and never come back
Apr 30 2019 6:22AM
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1spliff2guinnies
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skiguy04Okay here:
180, 360, 540, 720, 900 etc. done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, d spin....
720 900 1080 1260 1440 done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, d spin....and double cork
1080, 1260, 1440, 1620 done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, spin ... and triple cork

Now multiply that all by 4 for unnatural rotation, backwards/fakie, shifty and blender

..:Now multiply that by 2 for nose butter and tail butter

Boom more tricks than skate boarding and you don’t even have to grab


You a hoe


Jesus you are dumb.
Apr 30 2019 11:13PM
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skiguy04
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ChadThundercockGet the fuck out of here and never come back


Fuck you hoe
May 1 2019 2:53AM
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skiguy04
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Grindy_McSliderJesus you are dumb.


Cunt bitch suck it
May 1 2019 2:54AM
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skiguy04
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This is why I snowboard you’re all so gay
May 1 2019 2:55AM
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warmguy1
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skiing is fucking easy and skateboarding actually takes time to do big shit. dont @ me
May 2 2019 10:07AM
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GrandThings
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skiguy04This is why I snowboard you’re all so gay


idk if you know this; but most people on this site are skiers. Just an FYI!
May 2 2019 10:26AM
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skiguy04
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GrandThingsidk if you know this; but most people on this site are skiers. Just an FYI!

Really? That’s weird
May 2 2019 7:52PM
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shinbangclan
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skiguy04Okay here:
180, 360, 540, 720, 900 etc. done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, d spin....
720 900 1080 1260 1440 done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, d spin....and double cork
1080, 1260, 1440, 1620 done flat spin, bio, cork, rodeo, spin ... and triple cork

Now multiply that all by 4 for unnatural rotation, backwards/fakie, shifty and blender

..:Now multiply that by 2 for nose butter and tail butter

Boom more tricks than skate boarding and you don’t even have to grab


You a hoe


Every skiing trick requires either an air or a rail.
Skaters can only spin a minority of those rotations, but they also have the ability to spin their board as well.
So, take about 1/4th of those rotations, times by all of the rotations for the board itself, times lates (most late spins adjustments i've ever seen is 3), and times grabs. Already a bigger number.
Those are air tricks, and you also have to account for a similar amount of board rotations on flatground. Take every possible rotation for the board and multiply it by 4 for regular, fakie, switch, and switch fakie.
Then you have to account for rails. All of these rotations on, all of these rotations off, 15ish different grind types. Not only can you change the type of grind as many times as you can, you can rotate the board inbetween different grinds, any of these rotations again. So, all the rotations multiplied by all the rotations multiplied by 15 multiplied by all the rotations.
It gets even more complicated when you get into freestyle and vert.

We are not diminishing the fact that skiing has a lot of tricks. We all like skiing.
But, skating dwarfs skiing in technicality and trick possibility.
May 3 2019 2:09AM
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