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animator
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So I checked out the gear guide here on NS and the gear guide says that the Candide 3.0 is still going to be 108 underfoot, but the rep for Faction that I met at my shop tells me that it's going to be updated back to the original 112 waist. Does anyone have a confirmation for either of these?
Apr 10 2019 5:50PM
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NickyyyNutttty
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Pretty sure it's going to be 112
Apr 10 2019 6:21PM
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Slunky
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Yep they’re changing it so the 3.0 is essentially a 112 underfoot 5.0
Apr 10 2019 6:25PM
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skidemon22
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Yes, we decided to go with a 112 waist design. Should be a really fun design/ shape :)
Apr 10 2019 7:56PM
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animator
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skidemon22Yes, we decided to go with a 112 waist design. Should be a really fun design/ shape :)


What sizes will be available?
Apr 11 2019 9:44AM
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animator
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skidemon22Yes, we decided to go with a 112 waist design. Should be a really fun design/ shape :)


and for god sakes can I get the 5.0 in a 190 next year?
Apr 11 2019 9:45AM
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patagonialuke
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animatorand for god sakes can I get the 5.0 in a 190 next year?


They're making a 183 and 190 CT 5.0 for next year.
Apr 11 2019 9:49AM
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patagonialuke
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animatorWhat sizes will be available?


169, 178, 184, 190 cm
Apr 11 2019 9:50AM
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Austintexas25
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skidemon22Yes, we decided to go with a 112 waist design. Should be a really fun design/ shape :)


Is the 3.0 going to be a flat camber ski like the 5.0
Apr 11 2019 11:38AM
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N41v131355
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patagonialuke169, 178, 184, 190 cm

Any core updates? Still lightweight like previous years?
Apr 11 2019 12:09PM
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NickyyyNutttty
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animatorand for god sakes can I get the 5.0 in a 190 next year?


Yeah they're making it in a 190. I'm 5' 8". I should get the 183 right?
Apr 11 2019 12:29PM
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NickyyyNutttty
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Austintexas25Is the 3.0 going to be a flat camber ski like the 5.0


Yeah their goal is to simply make a smaller waisted version of the 5.0.
Apr 11 2019 12:30PM
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Austintexas25
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NickyyyNuttttyYeah their goal is to simply make a smaller waisted version of the 5.0.


That sounds like the exact ski I’ve been waiting for
Apr 11 2019 12:44PM
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NickyyyNuttttyYeah they're making it in a 190. I'm 5' 8". I should get the 183 right?


I would say the 183 is good, but I’m only 5’11 and I’m getting the 190
Apr 11 2019 1:51PM
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NickyyyNutttty
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animatorI would say the 183 is good, but I’m only 5’11 and I’m getting the 190


The struggle is real.
Apr 11 2019 8:26PM
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patagonialuke
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NickyyyNuttttyYeah their goal is to simply make a smaller waisted version of the 5.0.

As far as I know, the new 3.0 does indeed have camber, and is not reverse-camber like the 5.0, and it also has a similar lightweight core as the current 3,4,and 5. But they’re using a slightly different wood this time.
Apr 11 2019 9:19PM
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patagonialukeAs far as I know, the new 3.0 does indeed have camber, and is not reverse-camber like the 5.0, and it also has a similar lightweight core as the current 3,4,and 5. But they’re using a slightly different wood this time.


I was on Factions website yesterday talking with a customer service rep for probably an hour and he gave me the lowdown:

3.0 and 5.0 are getting slightly different cores.
3.0 is now 112 underfoot, flex pattern is altered slightly to give it more of a, “slimmed down 5.0.” Sizes offered are different, there are less options than this years.
5.0 is offered in a 183 and 190. Still flat to rocker profile as this year. Prices don’t change.

**This post was edited on Jun 7th 2019 at 8:44:55pm
Apr 12 2019 10:47AM
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Longjcoy
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Are the 2.0s still going to be 102 underfoot?
May 30 2019 12:23AM
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skidemon22
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LongjcoyAre the 2.0s still going to be 102 underfoot?


yes, the 2.0 is unchanged for next year, except for graphics
Jun 6 2019 10:53AM
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LukeTheWaffle
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I skied the 112 proto that is the real ski. I love it and I'm buying a pair
Jun 7 2019 1:39AM
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LukeTheWaffle
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NickyyyNuttttyYeah they're making it in a 190. I'm 5' 8". I should get the 183 right?

Im the same height and tried the 183. You definitely should get the 83
Jun 7 2019 2:00AM
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anthonyleo.lin
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what size?
Jun 30 2019 4:38AM
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LukeTheWaffle
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anthonyleo.linwhat size?

169, 178, 184, 190 cm
Jul 3 2019 1:26AM
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Ghini
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They moved production to Amer / Atomic, not all models.
Jul 5 2019 3:20AM
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animator
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GhiniThey moved production to Amer / Atomic, not all models.


This is news, where did you hear this?
Jul 5 2019 12:21PM
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Ghini
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animatorThis is news, where did you hear this?


Email from Faction. It is interesting. They built Candides models in different factories but not at Amer. Almost all other models are now at Amer Austria.
Jul 10 2019 5:55AM
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animator
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GhiniEmail from Faction. It is interesting. They built Candides models in different factories but not at Amer. Almost all other models are now at Amer Austria.


Very interesting, would you be able to forward me the email?
Jul 10 2019 10:41AM
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Ghini
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animatorVery interesting, would you be able to forward me the email?


As it is a business email, no. Plus it is not that interesting. Faction tells people all their skis are handmade in Europe, wich is true, but does not specify the factories. I'll send you a DM..
Jul 11 2019 3:36AM
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