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Snowboarder dies in Aspen park

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iH8pow
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20 years old, died on first jump in terrain park, wasn’t wearing helmet. Just saw it on news so little is known

Time to start putting money on helmets being required in terrain park within next 2 years. Maybe they’ll even start hiring security to enforce
Feb 11 2019 8:45AM
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Johngreenacre
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respects

**This post was edited on Feb 11th 2019 at 10:40:12am
Feb 11 2019 9:53AM
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hi_vis360
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helmets were always required in the terrain park at my home mountain in Nova Scotia and a few years ago they made helmets mandatory everywhere on the mountain, they will not let you on the lift without one. Personally I think it makes sense to require them in the terrain park
Feb 11 2019 10:07AM
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Dddsz
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theLiquorwasn’t wearing helmet.
Time to start putting money on helmets being required in terrain park within next 2 years. Maybe they’ll even start hiring security to enforce

"BUt iTs mORe StyLIsH wITHoUt a hElmeT"
Feb 11 2019 10:11AM
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a_burger
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Not wearing a helmet and doing shit out of your comfort zone is stupid, but I would be pretty upset if Helmets became required in parks universally. It should be up to the individual.
Feb 11 2019 10:19AM
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Cheetodawg
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pinkcamo1000helmets were always required in the terrain park at my home mountain in Nova Scotia and a few years ago they made helmets mandatory everywhere on the mountain, they will not let you on the lift without one. Personally I think it makes sense to require them in the terrain park


you live in scotia eh?
Feb 11 2019 10:22AM
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JmckR
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''Patrol responded immediately and found the man unresponsive with no pulse or breathing, the statement says''

The guy has died almost immediately, suggesting it was something more like a snapped neck injury rather than brain damage, so I doubt a helmet would have helped much.

Nevertheless, that shit sucks, and I also feel sorry for the patrol team, I'm sure no amount of training can truly prepare you for a situation like that. RIP dude.

(disclaimer: I wear a helmet every single day I strap on skis)
Feb 11 2019 10:27AM
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hi_vis360
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a_burgerNot wearing a helmet and doing shit out of your comfort zone is stupid, but I would be pretty upset if Helmets became required in parks universally. It should be up to the individual.


yeah but what if said individual does shit out of their comfort zone without a helmet and then you have to deal with people literally dying in the terrain park, which makes the terrain park look super bad and dangerous to the public? There shouldn't have to be mandatory helmet rules, just like there shouldn't have to be seatbelt laws. But, unfortunately, people don't realize how dangerous some things are and make mistakes.
Feb 11 2019 10:28AM
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hi_vis360
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Cheetodawgyou live in scotia eh?


used to I show up every christmas for a few days, Maine now
Feb 11 2019 10:29AM
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tsingtaofanatic
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shred in piece.

remember to always wear helmets, guys. People who don't wear helmets aren't "cool", don't be like them.
Feb 11 2019 10:49AM
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Jems
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I don’t understand why people hate helmets, I never ski without mine even if it’s in my back yard. My helmet is comfortable as hell and it keeps me warm. A snowboarder early season at Hyland Hills got knocked out for 5 minutes over simple screw up on a jump because he wasn’t wearing a helmet.
Feb 11 2019 11:38AM
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Lonely
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Not sure how I feel about the "It's okay to wear your helmet if you are within your comfort zone". If you are good enough skier to have a "comfort zone" the stuff you are doing in your "comfort zone" is still dangerous. I'm a good driver, but I still wear my seatbelt because I don't have premonition and there are a lot of bad drivers out there.

Even if you are a good skier nothing is stopping you from getting creamed by a out of control beginner, or hitting an icy patch on a blue and going headfirst into a tree. Part of skiing is out of the control of the individual, but you can take some control back by being safe. Have brakes on your skis, wear a helmet, and be aware of your surroundings.

Anyways, helmets are a lot more stylish now, and people always tend to overestimate there abilities.
Feb 11 2019 11:45AM
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Park_Ranger
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Given the type of stuff that regularly goes down in a place like Aspen Parks, I am honestly surprised that these events aren't more common. Thank God they aren't though!

RIP to that kid, that is awful.
Feb 11 2019 11:51AM
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Jems
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LonelyAnyways, helmets are a lot more stylish now, and people always tend to overestimate there abilities.


A smith with well fitting goggles looks killer
Feb 11 2019 11:53AM
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Cade2
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AD doesn’t wear helmets, therefore I don’t wear helmets
Feb 11 2019 12:19PM
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50Kal
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Link. Corner is still working on actual death cause. RIP

[URL]https://www.aspentimes.com/news/tyler-hamm-idd-as-snowboarder-who-died-in-snowmass-terrain-park[/URL]/
Feb 11 2019 2:04PM
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a_burger
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pinkcamo1000yeah but what if said individual does shit out of their comfort zone without a helmet and then you have to deal with people literally dying in the terrain park, which makes the terrain park look super bad and dangerous to the public? There shouldn't have to be mandatory helmet rules, just like there shouldn't have to be seatbelt laws. But, unfortunately, people don't realize how dangerous some things are and make mistakes.


With this logic why have parks at all? A patroller was telling me years ago they had someone skip every rail in the park and clear a jump by 120ish feet past the knuckle. Somehow didn’t die but what can you do about people like that? Stop building jumps? Skiing is inherently dangerous, there’s going to be risks regardless of what’s on your head.


The helmet debate is such a dead horse I don’t really want to go any further and it sucks that someone died, but people need to take responsibility for their actions.
Feb 11 2019 2:18PM
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OregonDead
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50KalLink. Corner is still working on actual death cause. RIP

[URL]https://www.aspentimes.com/news/tyler-hamm-idd-as-snowboarder-who-died-in-snowmass-terrain-park[/URL]/


So sad. It says he is a cook at the restaurant on hill that is right by the park. Vibes to everyone that knows this guy.
Feb 11 2019 2:25PM
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SuspiciousFish
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pinkcamo1000yeah but what if said individual does shit out of their comfort zone without a helmet and then you have to deal with people literally dying in the terrain park, which makes the terrain park look super bad and dangerous to the public? There shouldn't have to be mandatory helmet rules, just like there shouldn't have to be seatbelt laws. But, unfortunately, people don't realize how dangerous some things are and make mistakes.


I remember years ago when parks first started building big features and there were some deaths and a lot of the big resorts considered shutting them down completely. I think the best thing is to have the smaller park then have a separate pass for the big park. Not any extra cost but just go through a safety thing and maybe show you are at least competent in what your doing.
Feb 11 2019 6:08PM
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CalumSKI
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satanworshippershred in piece.

remember to always wear helmets, guys. People who don't wear helmets aren't "cool", don't be like them.


Why did anyone dislike this
Rip this boarder, the ns community wishes their family the best of luck through these hard times
( plese everyone wear a helmet, its so much safer and every life is important, please listen)
Feb 11 2019 7:04PM
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hi_vis360
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SuspiciousFishI remember years ago when parks first started building big features and there were some deaths and a lot of the big resorts considered shutting them down completely. I think the best thing is to have the smaller park then have a separate pass for the big park. Not any extra cost but just go through a safety thing and maybe show you are at least competent in what your doing.


I totally agree, I think that park passes are the best solution. I guess for me helmets mandatory rules don't seem like a big deal cause I grew up with them and like wearing a helmet anyway.
Feb 11 2019 7:39PM
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Chunderface
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The guy didn't even die because he wasn't wearing a helmet.
Feb 11 2019 9:58PM
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codizzle
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RIP
Feb 11 2019 11:31PM
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FruitBootPro
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a_burgerWith this logic why have parks at all? A patroller was telling me years ago they had someone skip every rail in the park and clear a jump by 120ish feet past the knuckle. Somehow didn’t die but what can you do about people like that? Stop building jumps? Skiing is inherently dangerous, there’s going to be risks regardless of what’s on your head.


The helmet debate is such a dead horse I don’t really want to go any further and it sucks that someone died, but people need to take responsibility for their actions.


EXACTLY. Liam Neeson's wife died after she fell on a beginner slope. If at any point skiing you hit a tree or a rock at the wrong angle, you could easily snap your neck. Does this mean people should stop skiing, even on beginner slopes? Even our everyday lives are filled with risk, such as driving or crossing the street. We should take necessary precautions, but understand that most sports and many activities are inherently dangerous. And despite this, we can use learned reactions, finesse, and techniques to keep ourselves safe 99% of the time.
Feb 12 2019 12:01AM
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iskeaah
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pinkcamo1000yeah but what if said individual does shit out of their comfort zone without a helmet and then you have to deal with people literally dying in the terrain park, which makes the terrain park look super bad and dangerous to the public? There shouldn't have to be mandatory helmet rules, just like there shouldn't have to be seatbelt laws. But, unfortunately, people don't realize how dangerous some things are and make mistakes.


Its a huge liability to the ski resort and btw 15,000 lives were saved in 2016 because people were using seat belts
Feb 12 2019 12:03AM
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theabortionator
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I don't see helmets being mandatory any time soon. It could happen but likely won't. I think I've ridden with a helmet since 06-07 ish. As far as the hate on people not wearing helmets, a lot of people grew up riding when they didn't really exist. If you're so used to it and have been riding like that forever, it's tough to change. I'm not saying that kind of stubborn approach is good, but it's not too hard to understand.

If you don't wear a helmet because you want "to look cool" that's kind of retarded imo.

When I moved back east for a season a few years ago worked a park with mostly kids coming after school for night skiing. Pretty much all of them wore helmets. Was cool to see in that everyone was wearing them, so you weren't that one lame kid who's mom makes him wear a helmet.

I'll always wear a helmet at this point. If you don't wanna that's fine, I get it, but I'm always wearing mine. It's save me too many times. My protect was broken completely other than a few inch strip where the sides were connected. Have smashed the foam up pretty good or cracked the shell on others. People have died from hitting trees at very low speed.

Will it save me? maybe, maybe not. Do I see any downsides to wearing it? Not really.
Feb 12 2019 12:14AM
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vibecheck
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You're sipping your cup of coffee in the morning, you look out from your covered seat looking over at the perfect jumps you have maintained, in awe at all of your hard work. You see a few kids go down hitting some jumps, you make eye contact and raise your cup of coffee, all is good. That is until you see some kid with no helmet entering the park, your blood pressure goes through the roof, you throw down your coffee and start running scurrying towards already wearing ski blades for maximum speed and capability. You take out your rope from your belt and start swinging it and throw at the kid, you catch him just like you catch a cow. You tie him up so he can't flee, you search him for his pass. Once you get the pass you break it into pieces with cutters you carry, you look the kid in the eye, spit out your toothpick and say" not today, punk. Ain't no one coming round in my park without a helmet." The kid immediately laughs and says " you can't tell me what to do." Now this means war, the kid isn't listening to your orders, you start dragging him to the base of the park and tell him" no helmet, no park skiing, now get out." The kid scurries along. Your coworkers look proudly towards you, glad you caught another misfit not wearing a helmet. You tell them, "just doing my job." That night you got a 100$ bonus for catching 5 kids with no helmets. Well earned money when you are saving people's brains.
Feb 12 2019 12:34AM
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freestyler540
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Sad to hear. Helmets wont save you 100%, but your putting the chances on your side in case something happens.
Feb 12 2019 12:42AM
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