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How Do YOU Edit?

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Dougie_Fresh
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I'm not asking you to reveal any "trade secrets" but I'm curious to know how you edit. I'm an avid user of Adobe Premiere Pro but I want to know more about the community surrounding me. (If your software isn't on the list put in in the comments)

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Feb 1 2019 10:07AM
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mattytru
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love me some fcp7, but on my new comp i could only find torrents of fcpX which sucks!! in comparison of course... it's still quite powerful but the interface is almost insulting, it's a glorified imovie
Feb 2 2019 8:24PM
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LukasSchroeder
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I went from iMovie>FCP X> Premiere. Have since used AVID and Resolve. Currently I'd only use Resolve for grading, and really only technical or precise grading at that. I think in the future it will be a better option as a NLE software, but right now its not quit in line with premiere.
AVID is just far too different from Premiere for me, and seems to have way more issues in regards to exporting and round tripping.
Feb 2 2019 10:53PM
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spruitm
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I use the whole Adobe suite, everything just works together so easily, have never felt like I was being held back by any of it.
Feb 4 2019 10:10PM
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Holte
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DMSpenceI'm an avid user of Adobe Premiere


Conversely, I'm a premier user of Avid.
Feb 20 2019 8:22PM
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Forcillo
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no reason to buy an editing program in 2019 unless you make a living off it. Resolve is amazing and free and if you need the $1000 studio features then you wouldn't be on NS asking anyway
Feb 20 2019 9:09PM
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aldicigg
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Forcillobuy


lol
Feb 22 2019 10:32AM
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LukasSchroeder
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Forcillono reason to buy an editing program in 2019 unless you make a living off it. Resolve is amazing and free and if you need the $1000 studio features then you wouldn't be on NS asking anyway


This is facts. Although resolve hates multiple frame rates and isn’t quite on the same level as premiere. However as you said, if you need more features you wouldn’t be asking about it on NS!
Feb 23 2019 12:06PM
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newkid900
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I am a professional editor and use Premiere daily. There is a ton of great resources out there to learn the program. However, at the end of the day it is not the edit program that makes a great story.
Mar 12 2019 8:03PM
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ICary
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Premiere! Learn short cuts and it will change the game for you. You don't need a mouse/touchpad to edit. Everything can be done via shortcuts and it will help/improve so much.
Mar 13 2019 11:36PM
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newkid900
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ICaryPremiere! Learn short cuts and it will change the game for you. You don't need a mouse/touchpad to edit. Everything can be done via shortcuts and it will help/improve so much.


+1

I'm still on the FCP7 keyboard. I need to learn the Premiere keyboard shortcuts.
Mar 14 2019 1:02PM
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LukasSchroeder
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newkid900+1

I'm still on the FCP7 keyboard. I need to learn the Premiere keyboard shortcuts.

Just make a custom keyboard layout thats the same as what you know from fcp
Mar 17 2019 12:59AM
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newkid900
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LukasSchroederJust make a custom keyboard layout thats the same as what you know from fcp


No need it is built into Premiere. I know that there are certain keystrokes that are faster in Premiere tho.
Mar 17 2019 1:22AM
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eheath
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ICaryYou don't need a mouse/touchpad to edit.


Bro you're nuts, I refuse to even use a trackpad to edit, I travel with mouse and pad haha
Mar 17 2019 3:08AM
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eheath
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newkid900it is not the edit program that makes a great story.

Yeah I feel like lots of "newbies" (which we all were at some point) think that a better editing program = better editing, in the end they're all the same just depends on your preferences.

That being said, Premiere is the standard, tons of people use FCPX because they're stuck in the apple ecosystem, but FCPX does run really well on Apple hardware. If you're a student, premiere is like $10 a month and the whole suite is like $20 a month, if you're serious about editing video (ie make any money at all) you should pay for your editing software, just my two cents.

newkid900+1

I'm still on the FCP7 keyboard. I need to learn the Premiere keyboard shortcuts.


Same haha i will always use fcp7 shortcuts.

**This post was edited on Mar 17th 2019 at 3:12:58am
Mar 17 2019 3:11AM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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eheathif you're serious about editing video (ie make any money at all) you should pay for your editing software, just my two cents.


seriously. FCP is dirt cheap for how powerful it is and Premiere is debatably reasonable depending on your stance on subscriptions

you can't have a dozen+ hours into an edit and your shitty torrented copy decide to not work and tell the client they're outta luck haha
Mar 17 2019 6:08AM
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Hangry
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If you are on a budget, you can cheat the system with the good ol' final cut trial and date trick. It works, but as spoken above, if you're really into film making, pay for a quality software
Mar 18 2019 2:37PM
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gravel
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eheathBro you're nuts, I refuse to even use a trackpad to edit, I travel with mouse and pad haha


Haha I don't think I can edit without a trackpad, so much better for me than a mouse
Mar 21 2019 11:03PM
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NE.
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I edit primarily in final cut and have a hard time with anything but a trackpad after too many years of time on a laptop.
Mar 23 2019 1:19AM
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eheath
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toastHaha I don't think I can edit without a trackpad, so much better for me than a mouse
NE.I edit primarily in final cut and have a hard time with anything but a trackpad after too many years of time on a laptop.


y'all are nuts
Mar 23 2019 2:24PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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eheathy'all are nuts


nah trackpads can be super quick for editing on the go especially when you're used to it, premiere CC also utilizes the haptic feedback built into 2015+ MBP trackpads so they haptic click with each snap using the selection/razor tool etc. also when zooming in and out
Mar 24 2019 12:17PM
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eheath
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IanAvery-Leafnah trackpads can be super quick for editing on the go especially when you're used to it, premiere CC also utilizes the haptic feedback built into 2015+ MBP trackpads so they haptic click with each snap using the selection/razor tool etc. also when zooming in and out


Ive used a track pad many times to edit and I absolutely hate it, but I'm just messing around calling it crazy, but for me a mouse is the only option.
Mar 24 2019 12:21PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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eheathIve used a track pad many times to edit and I absolutely hate it, but I'm just messing around calling it crazy, but for me a mouse is the only option.


true that mice are arguably the best option especially to not block access to kb shortcuts, but it seems that a lot of younger editors are more used to a trackpad than a mouse, myself included. Have windows trackpads caught up to the last decade of Mac trackpad excellence yet?
Mar 24 2019 12:24PM
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eheath
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IanAvery-Leaftrue that mice are arguably the best option especially to not block access to kb shortcuts, but it seems that a lot of younger editors are more used to a trackpad than a mouse, myself included. Have windows trackpads caught up to the last decade of Mac trackpad excellence yet?


Doubt it but you're asking the wrong person, my windows laptop has a very marginal track pad, but I don't use it.............
Mar 24 2019 12:25PM
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eheath
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I think the only way to settle this is a drinking competition at SU 😂
Mar 24 2019 12:26PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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were forgetting the true GOAT...

Mar 24 2019 12:26PM
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eheath
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IanAvery-Leafwere forgetting the true GOAT...



Hahaha lmao
Mar 24 2019 12:40PM
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neleson
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Vegas 10 used to be sick but premiere by far nowadays.
Mar 25 2019 9:45AM
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newkid900
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Learn Avid if you have any interest in working in Hollywood.
Mar 25 2019 7:01PM
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WPoch
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Premiere is best imo for more complicated ski edits and even films. Avid is used for TV and large films and is a little more complicated. If you don't know much about editing just use FCP
Mar 25 2019 8:44PM
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Dougie_Fresh
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newkid900Learn Avid if you have any interest in working in Hollywood.


From what I have heard Marvel almost primarily uses Premier and Adobe After Effects. I'm not doubting what you are saying at all though, Avid is the industry standard along with Adobe. (from what I know)
Apr 1 2019 9:25AM
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newkid900
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DMSpenceFrom what I have heard Marvel almost primarily uses Premier and Adobe After Effects. I'm not doubting what you are saying at all though, Avid is the industry standard along with Adobe. (from what I know)


Adobe is definitely gaining momentum. However, Avid is better for longform editorial. That's not to say that you can't cut a feature film on Premiere. Avid is better at media management and for editors who are working in teams. Also a big part of it is the hardware that is currently supported for Premiere and the cost of setting up a machine room. I was working at post-production facility that was responsible for finishing trailers and we were using FCP7 for layback on some spots. This hardware is expensive and facility managers and owners are not going to be willing to take a chance on a software package that is unproven, especially if it requires new hardware to support it.
Apr 3 2019 1:08PM
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eheath
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newkid900Adobe is definitely gaining momentum. However, Avid is better for longform editorial. That's not to say that you can't cut a feature film on Premiere. Avid is better at media management and for editors who are working in teams. Also a big part of it is the hardware that is currently supported for Premiere and the cost of setting up a machine room. I was working at post-production facility that was responsible for finishing trailers and we were using FCP7 for layback on some spots. This hardware is expensive and facility managers and owners are not going to be willing to take a chance on a software package that is unproven, especially if it requires new hardware to support it.


The thing is, if you use one NLE, you can use them all. I don't think anyone reading this forum needs to use Avid, but I would be surprised if 5 years down the road, when these managers/owners you speak if upgrade equipment (because if you're running a computer that is even 5 years old you need to upgrade) maybe premiere will be more relievent.
Apr 3 2019 1:21PM
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newkid900
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eheathThe thing is, if you use one NLE, you can use them all. I don't think anyone reading this forum needs to use Avid, but I would be surprised if 5 years down the road, when these managers/owners you speak if upgrade equipment (because if you're running a computer that is even 5 years old you need to upgrade) maybe premiere will be more relievent.


It probably will be. I just know I didn't get jobs because I didn't know Avid. At the end of the day editing is editing. We get lost in the technical details of software. Editing is storytelling. I could care less about the gear and more about great stories. We probably all have seen videos on Youtube that are amazing and that are cut in iMovie.
Apr 3 2019 2:25PM
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gravel
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newkid900It probably will be. I just know I didn't get jobs because I didn't know Avid. At the end of the day editing is editing. We get lost in the technical details of software. Editing is storytelling. I could care less about the gear and more about great stories. We probably all have seen videos on Youtube that are amazing and that are cut in iMovie.


very good comment
Apr 3 2019 2:41PM
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Dougie_Fresh
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newkid900It probably will be. I just know I didn't get jobs because I didn't know Avid. At the end of the day editing is editing. We get lost in the technical details of software. Editing is storytelling. I could care less about the gear and more about great stories. We probably all have seen videos on Youtube that are amazing and that are cut in iMovie.


A lot of people dont understand this and rant about having to have Premier Pro when they havent even gotten clips yet. Its crazy how many people forget what you are saying.
Apr 15 2019 12:34PM
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newkid900
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DMSpenceA lot of people dont understand this and rant about having to have Premier Pro when they havent even gotten clips yet. Its crazy how many people forget what you are saying.


So true. We have to remember technology is always changing. It's not the software that makes a great edit but the editor. A great example of this is some classic films from history. A lot of them were cut on a machine called a Moviola. When looking at this machine it's hard not to think that many of the master editors who came before us were a lot more concerned with the story rather than the technology they were using.
Apr 15 2019 1:20PM
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CrackHead.
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Adolf_Skitlerlol


torrent
Apr 29 2019 8:49AM
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