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Auzy
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I think we can all agree that global warming can really be a slap to the shaft to the sport that we love. So I was thinking the other day about how many initiatives are being put in place and with how quickly we continue to develop new technologies does anyone think that we will have some savior invention come out that will be able to reverse the effects of global warming? I can't help but feel like we have to have some Steve Jobs/Bill Gates type guy in there garage working on something that can save the snow.
Nov 1 2018 12:28PM
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ColeRousseau
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agreed
Nov 1 2018 1:30PM
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JoeF2661
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Our world is in peril. Gaia, the spirit of the Earth, can no longer stand the terrible destruction plaguing our planet. She gives five magic rings to five special young people. From Africa, Kwame with the power of earth. From the North America, Wheeler with the power of fire. From the Soviet Union, Linka with the power of wind. From Asia, Gi with the power of water and from South America, Ma-Ti with the power of heart. With the five powers combined they summon earth's greatest champion - CAPTAIN PLANET!
Nov 1 2018 2:02PM
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JAHpow
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Elon will come up with something
Nov 1 2018 2:47PM
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michigang
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JAHpowElon will come up with something

all hail Elon
Nov 1 2018 6:10PM
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bueno
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Indoor ski hills are the future
Nov 1 2018 6:18PM
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Artiemrgn
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buenoIndoor ski hills are the future


I hope not
Nov 1 2018 7:50PM
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Lonely
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buenoIndoor ski hills are the future

if you mean that they are large future contributors to emissions.... you would be correct
Nov 1 2018 8:00PM
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bueno
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Lonelyif you mean that they are large future contributors to emissions.... you would be correct


They’re gonna be all we got pretty soon
Nov 1 2018 9:28PM
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Lonely
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buenoThey’re gonna be all we got pretty soon


I sure hope not. I'd rather get back into skating and mountain biking.

If you think heli skiing is bad for the environment...constructing large amount of massive refrigerators, and keeping them running is comparably bad, if not worse. Let's just focus on making our current mountains more environmentally friendly before we start putting up ski dubais on every corner.
Nov 1 2018 9:43PM
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milk_man
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What I want to know is how much more effectively do plants grow and absorb CO2 when the CO2 level in the atmosphere is at the optimal level for plant growth. Currently the CO2 levels are far below the levels that would be optimal for plants
Nov 1 2018 10:00PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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Harvard solar shield has some potential, whether you also want to throw on your tinfoil hat or not is another thing....

https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu
Nov 1 2018 10:07PM
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bueno
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LonelyI sure hope not. I'd rather get back into skating and mountain biking.

If you think heli skiing is bad for the environment...constructing large amount of massive refrigerators, and keeping them running is comparably bad, if not worse. Let's just focus on making our current mountains more environmentally friendly before we start putting up ski dubais on every corner.

I’m with ya there. Not on resorting to skating or mountain biking, I’d personally rather ski in a fridge but for sore with you on conserving and protecting our current mountains
Nov 1 2018 10:20PM
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milk_man
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milk_manWhat I want to know is how much more effectively do plants grow and absorb CO2 when the CO2 level in the atmosphere is at the optimal level for plant growth. Currently the CO2 levels are far below the levels that would be optimal for plants


https://fifthseasongardening.com/regulating-carbon-dioxide
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/00-077.htm

^^ Articles that reference increased plant growth with higher PPM of Co2. (Which would reduce the levels of co2 more quickly. More co2 available = more plant growth = more co2 converted into oxygen)
Nov 1 2018 10:56PM
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DirtYStylE
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Global Warming is such a fucking sham. The fact that it took 10 years to gain momentum is just outrageous. These are scientists telling us science and we ignore them.

Then again, I haven't seen any "solutions" that I can get behind. Yeah we know its real and its a threat, but what do we do now?

Is carbon the real issue?

Should I stop heating my home in the winter?

Eat less beef?

Stop breathing C02?
Nov 5 2018 5:37PM
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Auzy
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milk_manhttps://fifthseasongardening.com/regulating-carbon-dioxide
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/00-077.htm

^^ Articles that reference increased plant growth with higher PPM of Co2. (Which would reduce the levels of co2 more quickly. More co2 available = more plant growth = more co2 converted into oxygen)


Interesting articles there, thanks for sharing. Was a good read.
Nov 5 2018 8:13PM
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vibecheck
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Everything changed when the fire nation attacked...
Nov 5 2018 8:31PM
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evaroni
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Ski lifts are not helping any of this. Neither are “POW” stickers. When I was a kid “POW” stood for Prisoner of War. Not whatever it stands for now.
Nov 5 2018 10:26PM
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APfreeski4
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everybody just quit their jobs and plant trees, then go vegan, if my math is correct we should be gucci
Nov 5 2018 10:29PM
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evaroni
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APfreeski4everybody just quit their jobs and plant trees, then go vegan, if my math is correct we should be gucci


Gucci. I like gucci. I’ll plant a tree to get Gucci.
Nov 5 2018 10:41PM
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APfreeski4
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evaroniGucci. I like gucci. I’ll plant a tree to get Gucci.


every millenial
Nov 5 2018 10:53PM
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ColeRousseau
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I will admit... global warming has slapped my shaft a couple...
Nov 6 2018 11:05AM
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oldworld_newlife
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my take is that the answer to our problems in the world (environment, peace, etc) are not political or technological. we need everyone to take steps as individuals. theres no technology or political move thats gonna change how things are, its gonna be the people. if one million people say fuck it in a day and throw a bag out the window thats one million bags out there decaying fucking the earth up, one million steps back. but if one million people decide to use less ____ and eat more sustain-ably/ do things that use less energy etc thats one million steps in the right direction you catch my drift?
Nov 6 2018 12:39PM
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APfreeski4
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midwesternmaniacmy take is that the answer to our problems in the world (environment, peace, etc) are not political or technological. we need everyone to take steps as individuals. theres no technology or political move thats gonna change how things are, its gonna be the people. if one million people say fuck it in a day and throw a bag out the window thats one million bags out there decaying fucking the earth up, one million steps back. but if one million people decide to use less ____ and eat more sustain-ably/ do things that use less energy etc thats one million steps in the right direction you catch my drift?


You could not be more right
Nov 7 2018 10:37AM
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fries
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It's hard to picture it going that far, just like any other doomsday prediction we've seen. Maybe some billionaire superhero will come in and save the day with an invention, or maybe we're screwed.
For the time being everyone with the ability should reduce their carbon footprint as much as possible by going vegan and using less fossil fuels. There's too much ignorance on the topic right now though so we haven't even taken the first step.
Nov 7 2018 4:07PM
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K-Dot.
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Climate change is a first world problem? Wtf? It is a global problem that hurts impoverished peoples firstly and foremostly.

Also, you aren't someone who spends every second trying to keep food on the table. You have the means to change, according to what you just said. So why are you spending your energy and time that others aren't as privileged to have spreading pessimism?
Nov 7 2018 5:40PM
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Gryllz
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DirtYStylEGlobal Warming is such a fucking sham. The fact that it took 10 years to gain momentum is just outrageous. These are scientists telling us science and we ignore them.

Then again, I haven't seen any "solutions" that I can get behind. Yeah we know its real and its a threat, but what do we do now?

Is carbon the real issue?

Should I stop heating my home in the winter?

Eat less beef?

Stop breathing C02?


Yes, in fact all of those things would help.

Turn your house temperature down when your gone or sleeping.

Consuming less farm animals would help as well.

Make sure to breath. Every effort that anyone makes; makes an impact. But if we want to see change, it has to be on a large scale
Nov 7 2018 8:30PM
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Gryllz
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APfreeski4every millenial


Go drop a hello in the biggest lurker thread ;)
Nov 7 2018 8:32PM
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APfreeski4
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GryllzGo drop a hello in the biggest lurker thread ;)


Lmao, it’s been a minute
Nov 7 2018 11:05PM
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oldworld_newlife
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well yeah, but again, should we dwell on what cant be done or look to what can be done? youre right, theres some who can actually make those changes a outright and it would have to start there
Nov 7 2018 11:33PM
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fries
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midwesternmaniacwell yeah, but again, should we dwell on what cant be done or look to what can be done? youre right, theres some who can actually make those changes a outright and it would have to start there


Both in this thread and the vegan thread people like to hide behind the 'all or nothing' argument to justify their habits.

If I'm pissed about seeing trash in the lift line at my local resort, should I just throw some myself since I can't stop the others? It's all or nothing right?
Nov 8 2018 7:19AM
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oldworld_newlife
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J_SBoth in this thread and the vegan thread people like to hide behind the 'all or nothing' argument to justify their habits.

If I'm pissed about seeing trash in the lift line at my local resort, should I just throw some myself since I can't stop the others? It's all or nothing right?


I think the obvious answer is maybe pick some of that trash up , tell people not to do that , call people out if you see them doing that , and don't throw any yourself . Lead by example. The world needs more positive role models
Nov 8 2018 11:32AM
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fries
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midwesternmaniacI think the obvious answer is maybe pick some of that trash up , tell people not to do that , call people out if you see them doing that , and don't throw any yourself . Lead by example. The world needs more positive role models

Hahaha just was using it as an example. But basically, what you said is exactly how people should act in general
Nov 8 2018 11:36AM
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milk_man
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J_SBoth in this thread and the vegan thread people like to hide behind the 'all or nothing' argument to justify their habits.

If I'm pissed about seeing trash in the lift line at my local resort, should I just throw some myself since I can't stop the others? It's all or nothing right?


I think the point is that even if you try to reduce your carbon footprint, you can only cut so many things out of your life. The only way to truly eliminate our carbon footprint is if we all give up our lifestyles and completely change the structure of our society. No more big cities, no more easy travel, no more comfortable living spaces.. Basically we need to go back 200 years if we want to eliminate the problem of carbon emissions. (Realistically and financially). Obviously one can dream of a world powered by renewable energy, but realistically the cost of this would destroy our economy and put us back 200 years anyway. So It's kind of a lose-lose.
Nov 8 2018 12:17PM
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Auzy
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milk_manI think the point is that even if you try to reduce your carbon footprint, you can only cut so many things out of your life. The only way to truly eliminate our carbon footprint is if we all give up our lifestyles and completely change the structure of our society. No more big cities, no more easy travel, no more comfortable living spaces.. Basically we need to go back 200 years if we want to eliminate the problem of carbon emissions. (Realistically and financially). Obviously one can dream of a world powered by renewable energy, but realistically the cost of this would destroy our economy and put us back 200 years anyway. So It's kind of a lose-lose.

My thoughts are that hopefully some smart mofo out there will create something that wont require unrealistic and major changes to our lifestyle. It might just be me dreaming but I think we all know that we are way cross the line to revert everyone back to being vegan and going green. I'm just hoping that something comes along to recover all the damage we have done so far.
Nov 8 2018 12:24PM
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TheDoughAbides
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The amount of latent heat required to produce one hurricane could supply the entire planet's energy demands for 200 years...
Nov 8 2018 2:34PM
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Auzy
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TheDoughAbidesThe amount of latent heat required to produce one hurricane could supply the entire planet's energy demands for 200 years...


thats a fun fact, how do you collect that energy though?
Nov 8 2018 5:55PM
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milk_man
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TheDoughAbidesThe amount of latent heat required to produce one hurricane could supply the entire planet's energy demands for 200 years...


eheaths farts can power NYC for 5 seconds...
Nov 8 2018 6:16PM
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dshiland
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ive been feeling this exact topic recently, by no means am i an expert but i think it boils down to the fact that as humans we are so wasteful. we throw away so much and and consume insane amounts of everything from clothes to food to vehicles we are destroying this planet and its sad like the post a few above said its a million steps back and only a few steps forward, people just need to be more aware of the issues and the small things make a difference.
Nov 8 2018 6:42PM
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*ninja*
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jus gotta ski as much as we can while we can
Nov 8 2018 10:00PM
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Rusticles
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It's not like the human race was going to continue forever. We are weak and fragile in the big picture.
The earth's population is exploding, It must be accepted that there is going to be some significant change with soon to be 9 billion people on the planet. We could really look at Global warming as a "culling of the herd".

That being said, nuclear power and Tesla's
Nov 13 2018 11:21AM
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Gryllz
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RusticlesIt's not like the human race was going to continue forever. We are weak and fragile in the big picture.
The earth's population is exploding, It must be accepted that there is going to be some significant change with soon to be 9 billion people on the planet. We could really look at Global warming as a "culling of the herd".

That being said, nuclear power and Tesla's


The culling of the herd will be done faster and more efficiently than global warming... here are some examples

-Cancerous food being promoted (red meat)
-Prescription drugs (ope's and painkillers)
-5g in citys

oooo illuminati
Nov 13 2018 12:15PM
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milk_man
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RusticlesThat being said, nuclear power and Tesla's


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-long-will-global-uranium-deposits-last/
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/miles-kwh

Keep in mind that uranium is a finite resource. We have 200 years left at current consumption, which is fairly small.

Also, a Tesla get approximately 3.5 miles per kWh. To produce 1 kWh it takes about 0.9 lbs of coal, or 1,000 cubic feet of natural gas. Which is about 9,000 btu for the coal, and 900,000 btu for natural gas (I was super surprised by this figure, if someone can find a source that says differently I would appreciate it). Meaning that a coal powered Tesla uses around 0.257 lbs of coal per mile, or 2,570 btu per mile. A gallon of gasoline contains 115,000 btu, so if you get 25 mpg you are using 4,600 btu per mile.

When looking at the efficiency of electric cars people usually compare the energy content of electricity vs the energy content of gasoline. But that really isn't a fair comparison, because what effectively matters is how much energy was used to produce that electricity, not how much energy that electricity contains.
Nov 14 2018 2:57PM
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