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Nxtyrsfulltilts - Filed PP Claim 3 months after purchase/despite confirming acceptance of package

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argyle409
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So woke up this morning with -$ in my PayPal

nxtyrsfulltilts filing a claim that he didn't authorize the purchase he made 3 months ago, yet he managed to confirm that he received the package 3 months ago and the name he asked to ship to matches the one the claim is attached to...

I obviously flipped out and sent him a pissed pm, but he's still ignoring me despite being active on here... Buyers beware!

Review the album below to see his childish actions...

https://imgur.com/a/ztV849I
Jun 23 2018 4:06PM
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Lonely
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There you go bud. Now the asshat can catch the flak he deserves!
Jun 23 2018 5:01PM
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argyle409
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Which MODS are still pretty active on here that I could forward this to, so they ban his IP or at least monitor it so he doesn't make new accounts to fuck more people over.
LonelyThere you go bud. Now the asshat can catch the flak he deserves!


I sent out entire convo screen caps to PP, along with all the shipping info + tracking numbers. The fact he put his user name in the buyer notes is probably the stupidest things I've seen... if you're trying to rip someone off. Clearly not his first rodeo in doing this as the cap for filing claims like these is basically 90 days, and he waited till just about then to do it.
Jun 23 2018 5:11PM
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Lonely
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argyle409Which MODS are still pretty active on here that I could forward this to, so they ban his IP or at least monitor it so he doesn't make new accounts to fuck more people over.


I sent out entire convo screen caps to PP, along with all the shipping info + tracking numbers. The fact he put his user name in the buyer notes is probably the stupidest things I've seen... if you're trying to rip someone off. Clearly not his first rodeo in doing this as the cap for filing claims like these is basically 90 days, and he waited till just about then to do it.

Meh. If you ip ban him then how will he get all the shit that these threads bring (or at least used to). The internet mob mentality here will do you justice.

If not post this on 4chan
Jun 23 2018 5:18PM
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argyle409
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LonelyMeh. If you ip ban him then how will he get all the shit that these threads bring (or at least used to). The internet mob mentality here will do you justice.

If not post this on 4chan


/b/ has been dead for years lmao... but I guess if I spread the word enough an quote all his replies to this thread people will get the gist of how awesome of person he is
Jun 23 2018 5:21PM
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Lonely
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argyle409/b/ has been dead for years lmao... but I guess if I spread the word enough an quote all his replies to this thread people will get the gist of how awesome of person he is

Yeah it has been. Not saying I have his address but its definetly not easy to find all of his social media and address. But dont post it in here for obviously obvious reasons.
Jun 23 2018 5:28PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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shouldnt we wait until he replies and hear his side of the story?
Jun 23 2018 6:00PM
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Lonely
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TRVP_ANGELshouldnt we wait until he replies and hear his side of the story?


No it's much better to be angry now.
Jun 23 2018 6:18PM
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argyle409
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TRVP_ANGELshouldnt we wait until he replies and hear his side of the story?


I don't think he has a side thats worth speaking, since I dropped him a message at 9am EST and he's been active since then and ignored my messages to him with links to my call out thread... if he had something to say, he had ample time to make it heard
Jun 23 2018 6:22PM
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Excerpt from a stickied post from the admins/mods in the Sell/Trade section:

"Finally, a disclaimer.

YOU ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY TRANSACTIONS YOU COMPLETE ON NEWSCHOOLERS WITH OTHER MEMBERS. NEWSCHOOLERS WILL NOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR ANY TRANSACTION. NEWSCHOOLERS WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY FORM OF MEDIATION, NOR BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AIDING IN CONTACTING, NOR COLLECTING CONTACT INFORMATION FOR ANY MEMBER."

Sadly mods probably won't do anything because there has probably been enough problems in the past with people trying to hold NS accountable for scammers.
Jun 23 2018 6:51PM
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argyle409
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DeebieSkeebiesExcerpt from a stickied post from the admins/mods in the Sell/Trade section:

"Finally, a disclaimer.

YOU ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY TRANSACTIONS YOU COMPLETE ON NEWSCHOOLERS WITH OTHER MEMBERS. NEWSCHOOLERS WILL NOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR ANY TRANSACTION. NEWSCHOOLERS WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY FORM OF MEDIATION, NOR BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AIDING IN CONTACTING, NOR COLLECTING CONTACT INFORMATION FOR ANY MEMBER."

Sadly mods probably won't do anything because there has probably been enough problems in the past with people trying to hold NS accountable for scammers.


I get that, and I know selling anything online there is always a risk with the buyer pulling some slick shit like this or having their package diverted to another address etc... I'm not really upset about the money it's just the fact or trying to prevent this shit from happening to another member, we're suppose to behave respectfully and I like to think of NS as a family. I wouldn't want any of my other Fam to be dicked over by him again in the future.

I get banning him is asking for a lot, I'm sure the mods have bigger matters to worry about especially considering it's grown a lot from back in the day when this place was wild and myspace was all the rage... but if they could just keep him on their radar as a person of interest for shenaniganz I'd think that's reasonable request.
Jun 23 2018 7:06PM
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eheath
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argyle409I get that, and I know selling anything online there is always a risk with the buyer pulling some slick shit like this or having their package diverted to another address etc... I'm not really upset about the money it's just the fact or trying to prevent this shit from happening to another member, we're suppose to behave respectfully and I like to think of NS as a family. I wouldn't want any of my other Fam to be dicked over by him again in the future.

I get banning him is asking for a lot, I'm sure the mods have bigger matters to worry about especially considering it's grown a lot from back in the day when this place was wild and myspace was all the rage... but if they could just keep him on their radar as a person of interest for shenaniganz I'd think that's reasonable request.


Unfortunately, banning them won't do anything, people who want to scam people can pass an IP block with a simple proxy. As stated in the website rules, we are not responsible for any transactions and you should take up your issue with local authorities if you actually want justice.
Jun 24 2018 8:19PM
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argyle409
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eheathUnfortunately, banning them won't do anything, people who want to scam people can pass an IP block with a simple proxy. As stated in the website rules, we are not responsible for any transactions and you should take up your issue with local authorities if you actually want justice.


I hear you, and I realize my initial demand/hopes were powered by rage rather than logic - agree it's worth keeping his account active so he can live with that shit rep.... I've taken the steps in collecting info on him to determine he's a minor so I'll be reaching out to his parents if I can't get a hold of him soon.
Jun 24 2018 8:29PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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eheathUnfortunately, banning them won't do anything, people who want to scam people can pass an IP block with a simple proxy. As stated in the website rules, we are not responsible for any transactions and you should take up your issue with local authorities if you actually want justice.

Prob best to ban anyways or at least impose a do not trade with warning on his acc
Jun 24 2018 9:26PM
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eheath
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TRVP_ANGELProb best to ban anyways or at least impose a do not trade with warning on his acc


Again, BST is not regulated by moderators, so we will not ban him. Im not sure if I need to explain this again, but its not a solution at all.
Jun 24 2018 9:27PM
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argyle409
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eheathAgain, BST is not regulated by moderators, so we will not ban him. Im not sure if I need to explain this again, but its not a solution at all.


Out of curiosity what does get someone banned; racism, spam, noodz?
Jun 24 2018 10:32PM
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eheath
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argyle409Out of curiosity what does get someone banned; racism, spam, noodz?


See forum rules here
Forum Rules https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/340690/Forum-Rules
Jun 24 2018 10:45PM
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argyle409
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eheathSee forum rules here
Forum Rules https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/340690/Forum-Rules

Jun 24 2018 11:10PM
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Lonely
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eheathAgain, BST is not regulated by moderators, so we will not ban him. Im not sure if I need to explain this again, but its not a solution at all.


So correct me if I'm wrong but cant you get banned for item flipping? Wouldnt that be moderation in bst?

I dont really care, I'm just wondering if that rule no longer exists.
Jun 25 2018 2:01AM
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eheath
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LonelySo correct me if I'm wrong but cant you get banned for item flipping? Wouldnt that be moderation in bst?

I dont really care, I'm just wondering if that rule no longer exists.


That used to be a huge problem when we created the rules, not necessarily anymore.
Jun 25 2018 2:02AM
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Lonely
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eheathThat used to be a huge problem when we created the rules, not necessarily anymore.

Gotcha.
Jun 25 2018 2:02AM
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argyle409
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Email'ed thenxtyrsfulltilts via the architecture firm thats listed under the address (Jeffery D.) I assume is his dad but kept it losely labeled didn't want to step on any feeling in today's world of labelling.... anyways I've gotten no response. I collected images from his instagram and between google maps/bing maps I've confirmed from image analyzes that Sam aka nxtyrsfulltilts does indeed live in that house so I assume 'Sam D.' is his real name it's just he's a minor so it makes it difficult grabbing info on it, although for his dad there's tons of stuff.... So I'll be calling and recording calls from the #'s I've found until I find Sam or evidently Jeffery since he lists the address I shipped to as his firm's contact address.


TL;DR - I haven't heard from nxtyrsfulltilts at all - I found his dad's company address listed as his address... so imma make calls
Jun 26 2018 10:35AM
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argyle409
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I just got off the phone with his father.... who noted the payment SAM made was via his mom's paypal account - even though is has his email.... So maybe her CC? An his father intends to mail the goggles back - but he's had them for 3 months and I'm suppose to expect they're not in worse shape then when I sent them? Told his dad my contact info, and explained that I expect a tracking #.... I mean it's better than nothing but it's still lame AF since the dad couldn't describe what the goggles were nor did he fess up any wrong doing just that he want me to stop emailing his business email and SAM will be dealt with. Hope he's grounded till next summer so no skiing for a year
Jun 26 2018 11:25AM
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JohnnyDope
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Fuck Sam

Fuck him real good
Jun 26 2018 11:32AM
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argyle409
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JohnnyDopeFuck Sam

Fuck him real good


Where are we gonna


?

Jun 26 2018 11:39AM
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JoeF2661
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I could easily see his pops not fessing up to any wrong doing. It's his kid so no matter what he's got to kind of play protector. Sure he's glad you're not emailing his work anymore. Hope his parents are disciplinarian and actually do something to teach not pull shit like this. Parents are weak nowadays.
Jun 26 2018 12:09PM
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argyle409
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JoeF2661I could easily see his pops not fessing up to any wrong doing. It's his kid so no matter what he's got to kind of play protector. Sure he's glad you're not emailing his work anymore. Hope his parents are disciplinarian and actually do something to teach not pull shit like this. Parents are weak nowadays.


I know all parents (at least the ones who care for their kids) will do w/e needed to defend their child. However his dad was rather snobby though like in a pretentious sense explaining I was wasting his time by making this issue bigger than it was... there wasn't a need to contact him... An kept stating that I need to stop arguing - I was simply layout out the info as to why the issue arose.

I wanted him confirmed all sides of the story and to provide me description of the goggles (there were 2). He referred to them as one pair, I told him there were two and I explained I wanted confirmation of the goggles condition via pictures he said that's non needed because they're in the same condition as he got them. An he'll mail them out today... I told him I want a tracking # which he noted isn't needed as I have his word, I pressed on and he said he'd consider it.


But like wtf your Son is ignoring me and I'm dealing with PP, so like I'm just suppose to assume you'll mail them back despite never giving him my address (unless he kept the box for 3 months). An you keep talking about it like it's one pair but it's fucking two pairs.
Jun 26 2018 12:29PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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argyle409I know all parents (at least the ones who care for their kids) will do w/e needed to defend their child. However his dad was rather snobby though like in a pretentious sense explaining I was wasting his time by making this issue bigger than it was... there wasn't a need to contact him... An kept stating that I need to stop arguing - I was simply layout out the info as to why the issue arose.

I wanted him confirmed all sides of the story and to provide me description of the goggles (there were 2). He referred to them as one pair, I told him there were two and I explained I wanted confirmation of the goggles condition via pictures he said that's non needed because they're in the same condition as he got them. An he'll mail them out today... I told him I want a tracking # which he noted isn't needed as I have his word, I pressed on and he said he'd consider it.


But like wtf your Son is ignoring me and I'm dealing with PP, so like I'm just suppose to assume you'll mail them back despite never giving him my address (unless he kept the box for 3 months). An you keep talking about it like it's one pair but it's fucking two pairs.


Why not just tell him to force the son to cancel the claim? Why mail it back? The transactions already done, there isn't a "3 month money back refund" type of deal.. The dad's being a bit petty here, could have just allowed the payment to go through and take the L on the $60
Jun 26 2018 1:06PM
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argyle409
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TRVP_ANGELWhy not just tell him to force the son to cancel the claim? Why mail it back? The transactions already done, there isn't a "3 month money back refund" type of deal.. The dad's being a bit petty here, could have just allowed the payment to go through and take the L on the $60


I explained this to him, and how it's only 65 bucks but he was playing this snobby tone of 'well we didn't give sam permission for this so we're going to return it end of discussion no point arguing this anymore - you're (me) making this into a bigger deal then it needs to be' which I agree with you... they live a 15k square foot victorian house in city of Pittsburgh (not suburb), he's a successful architect... he can clearly afford the $65.
Jun 26 2018 1:11PM
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argyle409I explained this to him, and how it's only 65 bucks but he was playing this snobby tone of 'well we didn't give sam permission for this so we're going to return it end of discussion no point arguing this anymore - you're (me) making this into a bigger deal then it needs to be' which I agree with you... they live a 15k square foot victorian house in city of Pittsburgh (not suburb), he's a successful architect... he can clearly afford the $65.


Yeah it sounds like he's just trying to teach his kid a lesson, but is actually doing the wrong thing. What he should do is pay you and take the goggle from the kid, but pretty hard to tell someone how to be a parent.
Jun 26 2018 1:38PM
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SofaKingSick
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argyle409I explained this to him, and how it's only 65 bucks but he was playing this snobby tone of 'well we didn't give sam permission for this so we're going to return it end of discussion no point arguing this anymore - you're (me) making this into a bigger deal then it needs to be' which I agree with you... they live a 15k square foot victorian house in city of Pittsburgh (not suburb), he's a successful architect... he can clearly afford the $65.


i love when people say shit like this. oh, this isn't worth even talking about? that's great, in that case you shouldn't have any issue giving me $65 immediately! problem solved
Jun 26 2018 2:46PM
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Fitting that his avatar is a COCK like himself... will keep you guys posted on if this m/o checks out. Still don't get why they didn't just cancel the paypal claim, so I'm still skeptical on if this is just a lead me away or if his dad got pissed at him after I emailed him again explaining the situation on hand with help from some of your dudes giving me info about liability
Jun 26 2018 5:00PM
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Lonely
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argyle409

Fitting that his avatar is a COCK like himself... will keep you guys posted on if this m/o checks out. Still don't get why they didn't just cancel the paypal claim, so I'm still skeptical on if this is just a lead me away or if his dad got pissed at him after I emailed him again explaining the situation on hand with help from some of your dudes giving me info about liability


Wtf who sends money orders in 2k18. From his website he definitely seems like the guy to lead you along.
Jun 26 2018 5:13PM
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argyle409
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LonelyWtf who sends money orders in 2k18. From his website he definitely seems like the guy to lead you along.


Exactly my point - I think he's going that route due to my associate's email sounding all legal n official (with spelling errors n shit) - hence a money order they can track an confirm that I've cashed then use that against me if I go forth with the paypal claim...


I just realized he didn't give me a tracking # on the m/o... I guess I'll be emailing him again to bother em *facepalm

**This post was edited on Jun 26th 2018 at 6:20:33pm
Jun 26 2018 5:33PM
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SofaKingSick
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argyle409Exactly my point - I think he's going that route due to my sock email sounding all legal n official - hence a money order they can track an confirm that I've cashed then use that against me if I go forth with the paypal claim


Eek, have someone proofread your next fake-lawyer email!!
Jun 26 2018 5:54PM
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Lonely
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argyle409Exactly my point - I think he's going that route due to my sock email sounding all legal n official - hence a money order they can track an confirm that I've cashed then use that against me if I go forth with the paypal claim


You're about to get a C&D friend. Better file one first.
Jun 26 2018 5:57PM
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argyle409
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LonelyYou're about to get a C&D friend. Better file one first.


Already on it - plus who the hell takes blowingpaychecks email seriously, lol
Jun 26 2018 6:10PM
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argyle409
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SofaKingSickEek, have someone proofread your next fake-lawyer email!!


Ehh it's not lawyer letter it's just a formal email on my behalf... im dyslexic as fuck, and got APD so im terrible on the phone talking add that with being an introvert you got this dad's favorite person to step all over
Jun 26 2018 6:14PM
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SofaKingSick
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argyle409Ehh it's not lawyer letter it's just a formal email on my behalf... im dyslexic as fuck, and got APD so im terrible on the phone talking add that with being an introvert you got this dad's favorite person to step all over


haha i hear you. i hope this all wraps up nicely for ya
Jun 26 2018 6:16PM
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GrandThings
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inb4 this becomes the next infamous NS thread?
Jun 26 2018 11:46PM
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argyle409
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LonelyWtf who sends money orders in 2k18. From his website he definitely seems like the guy to lead you along.

Well he gave me a tracking #... now we'll see 28th if he mailed a m/o or monopoly money

Jun 27 2018 12:36AM
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Eat.Pant
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Gl, hope things make it through. Pitty though with the user being kinda scummy, I liked some of his contributions to the threads here.
Jun 27 2018 7:06PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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argyle409now we'll see 28th if he mailed a m/o or monopoly money


waiting patiently for tonights update
Jun 28 2018 10:36AM
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GrandThings
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Eat.PantGl, hope things make it through. Pitty though with the user being kinda scummy, I liked some of his contributions to the threads here.


Hear that dude?! We know you're reading this. We like you, just stop being a douche
Jun 28 2018 10:39AM
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argyle409
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FUUUUUUUUCKK

Another lead on










Jun 28 2018 12:18PM
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argyle409
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I'm so bummed about it seeming like the parent was stepping in to do the right thing... I C/C the father's architecture email with my reply so lets see what kind of news pops or him has for me.




On a more postitive note shoutout to zmarc88 for being super easy to deal with and doing friends/fam payment so nothing of this manner can happen... I'm slow at times to reply, but I've never taken anyone for a ride like nxtyrsfulltilts is doing with me... shit even when I was like 14 trading bmx parts across the country, I'd never been fucked over as much as this ass clown from pittsburgh. I mean shit I could drive the 5 hours to his house but I doubt his dad would be anymore pleasurable to talk to face to face than he is over the phone.

Jun 28 2018 12:29PM
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Lonely
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argyle409

I'm so bummed about it seeming like the parent was stepping in to do the right thing... I C/C the father's architecture email with my reply so lets see what kind of news pops or him has for me.




On a more postitive note shoutout to zmarc88 for being super easy to deal with and doing friends/fam payment so nothing of this manner can happen... I'm slow at times to reply, but I've never taken anyone for a ride like nxtyrsfulltilts is doing with me... shit even when I was like 14 trading bmx parts across the country, I'd never been fucked over as much as this ass clown from pittsburgh. I mean shit I could drive the 5 hours to his house but I doubt his dad would be anymore pleasurable to talk to face to face than he is over the phone.



Sounds like his dad is Bill Wanrooy.
Jun 28 2018 12:32PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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LonelySounds like his dad is Bill Wanrooy.


fuck my sides i heard the money order will come with a pair of 2019 revisions

**This post was edited on Jun 28th 2018 at 12:49:53pm
Jun 28 2018 12:41PM
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argyle409
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Update... Dad called, but I ignored him as I no longer intend to communicate with the Deninno Family only with PayPal. Video of voicemail explaining tracking # being bogus, which shows the true colors of Sam as a person.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sVl0cXiu0VhzbVf1_6oj1Dx3XKC2y4Mw/view?usp=sharing

edit: didn't realize google drive require download - will be on YT shortly @ https://youtu.be/vIdZ2JNjMAo

**This post was edited on Jun 28th 2018 at 4:12:31pm
Jun 28 2018 4:08PM
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SofaKingSick
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argyle409Update... Dad called, but I ignored him as I no longer intend to communicate with the Deninno Family only with PayPal. Video of voicemail explaining tracking # being bogus, which shows the true colors of Sam as a person.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sVl0cXiu0VhzbVf1_6oj1Dx3XKC2y4Mw/view?usp=sharing


i can't watch the video. what did the voicemail say?
Jun 28 2018 4:11PM
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