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That one friend who sucks at filming

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Govygen_gourmet
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Now... I'm not going to lie today was a badazz day at Bachy a pow day in April we had a lot of fun today.... it was just me and my friend who is an aight snowboarder that can get around anywhere without a problem.. but he really does suck at filming. I knew I couldn't expect much of an edit of the day, but I told myself we should at least try and I dont know what I saw in him today but I believed he would film good today if I just told him Exactly what to shoot and where to be positioned to get a good shoot so I did, and it still came out bad with late shots, finger on the corner of the lens, too low or too high, follow cam was more of his snowboard instead of me skiing, even the lifestyle shots I asked him to get looked half baked.

At the end of the day it was unforgettable but I really wish my friend would listen and learn for once, this is a common occurrence no matter how hard I try to train him. I feel like when he can finally get it though we will make a good duo he will be getting good shots of me, but also if his snowboarding progress more (Which it will if I just fill him with alcohol and convince him to send it) I'll get some good shots of him.

I know it's not like i'm paying him money or anything to do this but it's a tradeoff because I usually am the one to drive us up to the mtn, and for right now out of both of us i'm the only one who is willing to get fucked up.. in an effort to get a good shot.

What is your experience of a friend or partner who is not so good at filming? what did you do to help them improove?

**This thread was edited on Apr 12th 2018 at 11:24:14pm
Apr 12 2018 11:21PM
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sui-kide
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Youtube channel called Stomp it tutorials has a very good tutorial video on how to film correctly. Link it to him and break it into pieces when u guys are at the mountain the next time
Apr 13 2018 4:33AM
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84west
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Some people care more about riding with their friends and enjoying the day then filming, which is fine. It doesn't sound like your friend cares as much about making an edit and getting shots as you do, which is also fine. If you want to get serious about filming your skiing you may need to find someone who motivated more by getting shots rather than just enjoying their day riding. If your friend doesn't really care about filming you should still keep riding with them but also recognize there is a cieling to how much they are going to learn about filming.

As far as advice for making things easier, gopros and prime lenses seem to work to simplify things. I assume you're already setting up the camera more or less. I'd also shoot some stuff of him, even if its just straight airs or riding around so he has an idea of what you're looking for.
Apr 13 2018 11:52AM
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nutz.
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Govygen_gourmetNow... I'm not going to lie today was a badazz day at Bachy a pow day in April we had a lot of fun today.... it was just me and my friend who is an aight snowboarder that can get around anywhere without a problem.. but he really does suck at filming. I knew I couldn't expect much of an edit of the day, but I told myself we should at least try and I dont know what I saw in him today but I believed he would film good today if I just told him Exactly what to shoot and where to be positioned to get a good shoot so I did, and it still came out bad with late shots, finger on the corner of the lens, too low or too high, follow cam was more of his snowboard instead of me skiing, even the lifestyle shots I asked him to get looked half baked.

At the end of the day it was unforgettable but I really wish my friend would listen and learn for once, this is a common occurrence no matter how hard I try to train him. I feel like when he can finally get it though we will make a good duo he will be getting good shots of me, but also if his snowboarding progress more (Which it will if I just fill him with alcohol and convince him to send it) I'll get some good shots of him.

I know it's not like i'm paying him money or anything to do this but it's a tradeoff because I usually am the one to drive us up to the mtn, and for right now out of both of us i'm the only one who is willing to get fucked up.. in an effort to get a good shot.

What is your experience of a friend or partner who is not so good at filming? what did you do to help them improove?

**This thread was edited on Apr 12th 2018 at 11:24:14pm


Alright man, first things first - it sounds like he doesn't want to film, which is super valid - if you're not into it, filming all day sucks because you don't really get to ride.

If he wants to ride pow, why would you make him film? filming follows on a snowboard is also harder than it is on skis. - how are you also expecting him to progress on snowboarding if he's filming you all the time and not trying shit and having fun?
Apr 13 2018 5:08PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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nutz.Alright man, first things first - it sounds like he doesn't want to film, which is super valid - if you're not into it, filming all day sucks because you don't really get to ride.

If he wants to ride pow, why would you make him film? filming follows on a snowboard is also harder than it is on skis. - how are you also expecting him to progress on snowboarding if he's filming you all the time and not trying shit and having fun?


That's an understandable point on the follow cam part, snowboarders do seem to struggle with that..but thats also why I try to minimize that and have him just be posted somewhere below my drop/line, also we rode for most of the day, and I only asked him to film me for like the last 3 runs we had of the day because I too wanted to get my shred on. But yea i'll take that into consideration and i'll get some shots of him and show him what I want to look for.
Apr 13 2018 8:51PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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84westIf you want to get serious about filming your skiing you may need to find someone who motivated more by getting shots rather than just enjoying their day riding.

I do like your other points yes now that you say he is more motivated to ride rather than to film I see it in a whole new light.. but what you are saying here........ does This mean I would have to pay someone MONEY?
Apr 13 2018 8:54PM
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84west
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No, just try and meet more people who ride and want to film I guess
Apr 13 2018 8:55PM
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Forcillo
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Govygen_gourmetI do like your other points yes now that you say he is more motivated to ride rather than to film I see it in a whole new light.. but what you are saying here........ does This mean I would have to pay someone MONEY?


No, there's probably just some kid couped up in your school's film room you can hit up, then next thing you know you have a fire edit and that kid's in LA shooting commercials because filming was always his priority
Apr 14 2018 4:18AM
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JonMini
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ForcilloNo, there's probably just some kid couped up in your school's film room you can hit up, then next thing you know you have a fire edit and that kid's in LA shooting commercials because filming was always his priority


... a true story for many
Apr 19 2018 4:52PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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ForcilloNo, there's probably just some kid couped up in your school's film room you can hit up, then next thing you know you have a fire edit and that kid's in LA shooting commercials because filming was always his priority


dang well that is so simple thanks for the insight.
Apr 20 2018 12:29PM
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Eat.Pant
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Got a buddy that's a complete jerry in the park, spent most his time up at the drop in talking about gear he doesn't need, but damn was he a good cameraman, kept everything in shot and had good angles. He's a really good skier, but couldn't get the confidence to get a rail under his feet until the last week (we spent 15+ hours a week in the park), I'm fortunate having him around as he really enjoys filming. I'd do what everyone else is saying and find a dude that wants to film as well as look after his needs, if he's burnt out from carrying a steady cam around and whatnot.
Apr 20 2018 4:27PM
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Whiteout_
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Buy a fisheye. I never met anyone who could really mess up shots badly with a fisheye.
May 5 2018 4:46PM
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mike_e
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You kinda sound like a prick man
May 31 2018 4:10PM
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edai
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start giving him treat when he gets a good shot
Jun 1 2018 11:49AM
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SofaKingSick
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some people just don't get it/don't want to get it. ive had friends who would think they were doing their part by pointing a fish eye lens in the rider's general direction from 200 yards away. not worth it to try to teach and motivate someone like that, just accept that they arent down to film haha
Jun 4 2018 12:22PM
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Earl_Globz
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NOBODY WANTS TO SEE YOUR INSTA EDIT STOP FUCKING ASKING ME TO FILM YOU KARL
Jun 9 2018 7:53AM
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Govygen_gourmet
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mike_eYou kinda sound like a prick man


Yeah and you sound like you need to grow a sac
Jun 10 2018 1:45PM
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