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versus158
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Hi everyone, long time lurker on the biard but first time ever posting.
I'm on the market for a new pair of skid and I feel kind of lost regarding the huge amount of options available !
Been skiing for 20 or so years, used to ski a lot when I was younger but life and responsibilities have cut all that down to more or less a week every year now. Thanks to that I am a technically capable skier but with the lack of time spent on the mountain I don't enjoy charging around at mach 2 anymore.
I'm from France, ski mostly in the Pyrenees would say I do 50-50 groomers and off piste. Bear in mind that I don't do any crazy big mountain runs or super steep stuff. Size wise I'm 1m78 and weight 78kg in good physical shape.
As you've probably already understood I spend most of my time just cruising around on reds and some mellow off piste stuff messing around doig some small jumps, not any good in the park but would maybe like to try that out a bit.
The type of ski I think would fit would be something around 100mm waist, the isn't super demanding or doesn't need to be rode at the speed of light but still capable of holding out decently on the groomers. We don't have super deep powder around here so 100 should be enough. Budget wise I'm ok up to 700 without bindings.
Thanks for reading all this and the help !

**This thread was edited on Feb 27th 2018 at 3:37:25am
Feb 27 2018 2:56AM
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Colingarnes
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As with 90% of what ski should I get threads... ON3P Kartel 98
Feb 27 2018 10:14AM
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JakeDalBon
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These r super fun skis \/
https://www.evo.com/skis/line-sick-day-104#image=122040/510562/line-skis-sick-day-104-skis-2018-172.jpg

If u want a twin tips to get into park without losing the off piste ability check these out. U can take these off piste and also a great park ski \/
https://www.evo.com/skis/k2-poacher#image=121952/489168/clone.jpg

Both are great but I'm not to sure about the conditions out in France so i wouldn't be the best advice-giver haha. If u think that u would eventually wanna get into park, the poacher seems like a good ski for you. The only thing is that they are pretty soft so if u end up hitting a big jump juts be careful that u don't slip out. They would be fine off piste too since they're 96mm wide. If ur not to sure about the park then the Sick Day 104 is a really great, fun all mountain ski. U'll be fine taking it a off piste just don't try taking it up Matterhorn haha.
Feb 27 2018 10:19AM
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JakeDalBon
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Also if u like soft skis to do some sure fun shit check these out. Great park ski and they're 100mm with a little rocker so u should be fine off piste a little bit. I have to warn u though these are very park orientated. Just figured i mention them anyways in case u do wanna get into park cuz they are amazing skis.

https://www.evo.com/skis/armada-edollo#image=121922/489726/armada-edollo-skis-2018-158.jpg
Feb 27 2018 10:26AM
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versus158
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Thanks for the input guys, yeah been eyeing up the kartels a bit, but shipping and customs to France are a big bummer.
Took a look at the sick days too, they could do the job qui nicely. Also took a look at the CT2.0, the ARV 106 and the Majesty Dirty Bear, has anyone got any input on these ?
Can't really count on the conditions I mostly have to make do with whatever I get when I'm on holiday. But i'll never be going into crazy deep stuff.
Feb 27 2018 10:28AM
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SandwichGuy
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I would recommend the Line Sick Day 104 or ON3P Wrenegade 98 if your a directional skier. Otherwise, get a Kartel 98.

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Feb 27 2018 10:37AM
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versus158
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Well sounds like i'm going to have to save up a bit and pay some custom fees !
Could someone care to explain the main differences between the Kartel and the Wrenegade ?
Feb 27 2018 10:41AM
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SandwichGuy
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versus158Well sounds like i'm going to have to save up a bit and pay some custom fees !
Could someone care to explain the main differences between the Kartel and the Wrenegade ?

Wrenegade- Directional Kartel- Twin tip
Feb 27 2018 10:42AM
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versus158
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According to ON3P they're a bit stiffer than the kartels, are they ok for just cruising or do you really have to hammer them to get them going ?
Feb 27 2018 10:47AM
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SandwichGuy
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versus158According to ON3P they're a bit stiffer than the kartels, are they ok for just cruising or do you really have to hammer them to get them going ?

Which ski are you talking about that are stiffer than the kartels?
Feb 27 2018 11:03AM
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versus158
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The ON3P Wrenegades.
Feb 27 2018 11:14AM
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SandwichGuy
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versus158The ON3P Wrenegades.

They will be able to ski anything as long as the snow is appropriate for the width
Feb 27 2018 11:23AM
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JakeDalBon
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If im being honest i think that i would go with the Kartels. They are a lot more versatile and i feel they leave a lot more room to find what kind of skiing you really like.
Feb 27 2018 11:45AM
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Non_State_Actor
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If customs/duties are prohibitive for USA ski imports think about Black Crows? Camox or perhaps Daemon? You might be able to find a demo day in France and try out some of their skis.
Feb 27 2018 12:15PM
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Cade2
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Honestly, get the K2 poachers and avoid the hassle you would have to go through to get Kartels.
Feb 27 2018 1:23PM
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lwgp
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I ski a black crows camox as my "daily driver" ski and I LOVE them. That said, if you aren't too concerned with having a twin tip and want something a little more powerful, I'm also a huge fan of the Nordica Enforcer line.
Feb 28 2018 12:20AM
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versus158
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Hey guys thanks for all the input it really helps. A few questions I've heard the camox is pretty stiff and really designed for charging how is it at lower speed ? Are the kartels really worth paying twice the price of sick days, poachers or Arv's? Thanks guys !
Feb 28 2018 2:33AM
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lwgp
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versus158Hey guys thanks for all the input it really helps. A few questions I've heard the camox is pretty stiff and really designed for charging how is it at lower speed ? Are the kartels really worth paying twice the price of sick days, poachers or Arv's? Thanks guys !


While it isn't gonna be super soft like an ARV, I don't find it overly stiff at all, but it does have quite a bit of camber compared to other skis in the category, so you do have to lean on it a little harder to get it to hook up.
Feb 28 2018 11:59AM
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Non_State_Actor
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You should try to demo the camox or other skis from Black Crows, there are a million dealers in France. Perhaps email them and see if they're running any demo days in your local area?

I've never skied kartels but the ARV 96 is great fun and a solid value imo.
Feb 28 2018 12:08PM
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