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Frame Bindings

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FieldWork
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Good morning everyone,

I have a question about frame bindings and I appreciate any help and advice!

My boots are the 2014 Salomon Quest 100 size 26.5 / BSL 308.

My skis are the 2016 184cm Völkl Mantra,

I am looking to buy some frame bindings that would be compatible with my boot. This is my first time buying frame bindings so I am a little unsure of their compatiability with my flat toe alpine boots. I do understand that these will not work with tech bindings, and I am fine with the extra weight. I am looking to have a pair of frame bindings for just some small backcountry trips and to use this as my only ski set up, on and off piste.

I have been looking at Salomon Guardian 13L Binding with 100mm brake. Will these work with my boots?

Any recommendations or advice?

Thanks for your help!

Jesse
Jan 31 2018 10:27AM
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SofaKingSick
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id recommend checking out the tyrolia adrenalin too. when i was making this decision i ended up getting them over the guardians

i dont have time to chat much about them now but google site:newschoolers.com plus some search terms like frame binding guardian tyrolia adrenalin etc etc, there are lots of good (and bad) threads on here comparing and contrasting them all
Jan 31 2018 11:21AM
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.nasty
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SofaKingSickid recommend checking out the tyrolia adrenalin too. when i was making this decision i ended up getting them over the guardians

i dont have time to chat much about them now but google site:newschoolers.com plus some search terms like frame binding guardian tyrolia adrenalin etc etc, there are lots of good (and bad) threads on here comparing and contrasting them all

Just keep in mind the adrenalin has a much larger overall footprint on the ski and will pretty much kill the entire flex of a soft to medium flex ski (not that the guardians/dukes don't, but the adrenalin even more so)
Jan 31 2018 12:58PM
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SofaKingSick
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.nastyJust keep in mind the adrenalin has a much larger overall footprint on the ski and will pretty much kill the entire flex of a soft to medium flex ski (not that the guardians/dukes don't, but the adrenalin even more so)


that's a good point. they each have their pros and cons, be it weight, stack height, durability (reputation), blah blah blah

OP would do well to find some of the threads, there have been some really good long posts that go into all of it. im not having any luck with a quick google search, maybe ill search again later if this thread gets bumped
Jan 31 2018 1:04PM
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Zypher
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Having ridden and owned both the adrenalin and the guardians I can say that the guardians are by far my favorite. Sorter area on the ski doesn't totally kill the flex and the torsional stiffness of the guardians is millions of times better than the adrenalin. As well, the guardians have a much lower stack height so you're boot to ski interface isnt totally killed. That being said, the adrenalin still can hold its own. I never had any real problems with the bindings during my time using them and as a rig for short tours theyll be fine. If you plan on riding this ski alpine (lift access) as well as touring however, I'd recommend the guardians over the adrenalins as the guardians are a little more fun on the way down.
Jan 31 2018 1:22PM
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Rum_Ham
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Wait for next season and get the new shift bindings and cast inserts for your boots. Frame bindings will be dead soon.
Jan 31 2018 4:14PM
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Cade2
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Get daymakers if u can find some
Feb 1 2018 1:08AM
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FieldWork
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Just now learning about these Daymaker’s - anyone else have any feedback on them?!
Feb 2 2018 10:43AM
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OregonDead
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FieldWorkJust now learning about these Daymaker’s - anyone else have any feedback on them?!


I got the Daymakers this season. Just had them out for a short tour and I also used them in my 3 day Avy 1 class which included a bunch of transitions and a lot of weird side hilling and skinning downhill type stuff that I wouldn't normally do on my own. Transitions take a little time to learn but I'm already getting way faster at it. That is the only real down side. The actual skinning feels way better to me than the Marker tours that I had before. Also the Marker frame bindings are just plastic where the binding screws to the ski. In my case that part ultimately broke while I was skiing and the whole binding ripped off of my ski still attached to my boot.
Feb 2 2018 12:55PM
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Casey
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I've had good luck with my dukes so far. But all the research I did showed that Dukes, Guardians, and Tyrolia are all pretty much a wash.
Feb 2 2018 8:22PM
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