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Dew Tour Format (For next year etc)

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theabortionator
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After the Olympics will the Dew Tour stay similar to what it was this year or try to do something like last years event?

I can't remember all the plans. I think the slope was cut into a 3 jump line and a separate rail jam event. And the pipe was supposed to be a funky peace pipe/B and E sort of thing before mother nature killed it.

Will there be another go at it in the future with it not being an olympic qualifier or is it going to stay stock slope and superpipe event? I can't remember if the pipe was originally planned or just an audible with the lack of snowmaking temps.

Slope course looked like a lot of fun this year though.
Dec 17 2017 4:39AM
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cheerio
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Had this same question. Slope last year was basically a big air comp (1 jump) and a rail jam (4 features in a row) both separate from each other.
Not sure if they only had 1 jump because of the lack of snow or that was how it intended it to be. Regardless, I think the 1 jump format was pretty cool. Interested to see what will go down next year and also interested in knowing if they will invite as many people or not since it won't be an Olympic year
Dec 17 2017 9:50AM
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mr-mcsteeze
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If they go back to what they were doing last year I would like them to use 2 jumps instead of 1. Only having one jump makes it more into a big air contest and I think having 2 jumps would bring more style to it
Dec 17 2017 10:42AM
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Mr.Bishop
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theabortionatorAfter the Olympics will the Dew Tour stay similar to what it was this year or try to do something like last years event?

I can't remember all the plans. I think the slope was cut into a 3 jump line and a separate rail jam event. And the pipe was supposed to be a funky peace pipe/B and E sort of thing before mother nature killed it.

Will there be another go at it in the future with it not being an olympic qualifier or is it going to stay stock slope and superpipe event? I can't remember if the pipe was originally planned or just an audible with the lack of snowmaking temps.

Slope course looked like a lot of fun this year though.

Things are slightly different this year. Tune into the livestream and check it out. :)
cheerioHad this same question. Slope last year was basically a big air comp (1 jump) and a rail jam (4 features in a row) both separate from each other.
Not sure if they only had 1 jump because of the lack of snow or that was how it intended it to be. Regardless, I think the 1 jump format was pretty cool. Interested to see what will go down next year and also interested in knowing if they will invite as many people or not since it won't be an Olympic year


mr-mcsteezeIf they go back to what they were doing last year I would like them to use 2 jumps instead of 1. Only having one jump makes it more into a big air contest and I think having 2 jumps would bring more style to it


For both of you guys, last year was only done that way due to weather.
Dec 17 2017 12:28PM
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The.Fish
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Slopestyle as a sport needs to change. Jumps get way more rewarded than rails seem to. You can get so creative on rails, everybody also seems to hit the same exact rail line. Like for dew tour on the red section, I didn't see one person who scored well hit any rails but the ones on the furthest left. They build these elaborate rail sections, but they barely get used.
Dec 17 2017 2:16PM
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The.FishSlopestyle as a sport needs to change. Jumps get way more rewarded than rails seem to. You can get so creative on rails, everybody also seems to hit the same exact rail line. Like for dew tour on the red section, I didn't see one person who scored well hit any rails but the ones on the furthest left. They build these elaborate rail sections, but they barely get used.


Viewers want to see the guy in the sky doing the most spins and flips. It's about the best show not the skiing.
Dec 17 2017 3:46PM
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theabortionator
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Mr.BishopThings are slightly different this year. Tune into the livestream and check it out. :)



I saw the course, I watched the comp, I just mean in the future. This year is right before the olympics so I'm wondering if it was changed back to a normal format because of that, or just in general.

For both of you guys, last year was only done that way due to weather.
Dec 17 2017 6:37PM
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theabortionator
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The.FishSlopestyle as a sport needs to change. Jumps get way more rewarded than rails seem to. You can get so creative on rails, everybody also seems to hit the same exact rail line. Like for dew tour on the red section, I didn't see one person who scored well hit any rails but the ones on the furthest left. They build these elaborate rail sections, but they barely get used.


They score more than they used to I think. There was a point where you could 50-50 the whole course almost and do a few cool tricks and win. People are throwing down some tech rail tricks at least in snowboarding, but sometimes it isn't worth it. If they just boardslide a feature are they going to get scored barely lower or the same as if they did some technical trick.

I feel like spin on spin offs score alright because they're spinning, but I've def watched some runs and been like "Are they even fucking scoring the rails"
Dec 17 2017 6:40PM
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theabortionator
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Mr.BishopThings are slightly different this year. Tune into the livestream and check it out. :)




I just saw the modified deal. I get what you're saying about that. Didn't know what they were going to do for that.

For both of you guys, last year was only done that way due to weather.
Dec 17 2017 7:01PM
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eheath
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theabortionatorI saw the course, I watched the comp, I just mean in the future. This year is right before the olympics so I'm wondering if it was changed back to a normal format because of that, or just in general.

For both of you guys, last year was only done that way due to weather.


Dew tour this year was an Olympic qualifier.
Dec 17 2017 7:09PM
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theabortionator
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eheathDew tour this year was an Olympic qualifier.



I know. That's why I was asking if that was the reason for the standard slope format versus the separate rails and jumps last year. And if they're going to give that another shot next year or if it will be a standard slope format for the future.
Dec 17 2017 7:13PM
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eheath
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theabortionatorI know. That's why I was asking if that was the reason for the standard slope format versus the separate rails and jumps last year. And if they're going to give that another shot next year or if it will be a standard slope format for the future.


Well ya, thats the answer to your question. Next year who knows
Dec 17 2017 7:14PM
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mulz
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Mr.BishopFor both of you guys, last year was only done that way due to weather.


I thought they changed the comp format from the get go? Advertised it and everything. They were even able to build it out due to an above average early season, the weather came into play in the sense that it dumped like 12-24'' that weekend so the course was running too slow to hit all the features, so they chopped it down substantially to the point the "new format" they were trying didn't really play out.
Dec 18 2017 12:20AM
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eheath
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mulzI thought they changed the comp format from the get go? Advertised it and everything. They were even able to build it out due to an above average early season, the weather came into play in the sense that it dumped like 12-24'' that weekend so the course was running too slow to hit all the features, so they chopped it down substantially to the point the "new format" they were trying didn't really play out.


The snow the weekend of cancelled the "jump" section of the team contest. Due to lack of snow/cold weather before the contest last year they cut pipe and only had 1 jump.
Dec 18 2017 12:41AM
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theabortionator
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eheathWell ya, thats the answer to your question. Next year who knows



My question was about the future which you just answered now "Next year who knows".
Dec 18 2017 1:25AM
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eheath
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theabortionatorMy question was about the future which you just answered now "Next year who knows".


You're so damn confusing man haha. This year was a olympic qualifier, which is why it was traditional. Next year, we have no idea of what is happening.
Dec 18 2017 11:10AM
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SkiBum.
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Wonder when people will realize and learn to stop have big stupid comps this early in the year.
Dec 18 2017 12:47PM
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Mr.Bishop
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theabortionatorMy question was about the future which you just answered now "Next year who knows".


The idea is to return to a format more similar to last year currently, but the event just ended under 24 hours ago so realistically those discussions haven't taken place yet.

What did you think, did you like this year's format for Jumps/Rails better or the "idea" of what it was supposed to be last year? (Separated 3-jump line and rail garden)
Dec 18 2017 12:49PM
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I’ve been going to the dew tour for five ish years and I’ve seen it change into what it is today. Of course the streetstyle is a step in the right direction and the team challenge is pretty cool but at the core, competition skiing is all about slopestyle and pipe. This year’s course wasn’t all that special. You can find the same combination of down rails and battleships at most parks now. I’m so excited for the Olympic slope course. I’ve showed it to everyone who has mentioned the olympics around me. The number of rails and jumps doesn’t really matter, but the creativity on it does and the on-snow creativity comes from the features the athletes are given. The US Open of Snowboarding had a pretty creative course last year and that was definitely a step in the right direction. The modified halfpipe from the team challenge was pretty cool but I can’t imagine that catching on EXCEPT for the jump into the pipe. Special pipe things like Peace Park and DoublePipe (at Aspen a few years back) are really only for video parts and specific competitions and probably should stay like that. I wouldn’t be too opposed to some changes in the pipe though, like the announcers said, it’ll be a good representation of who can adapt and who is actually the best skier at that time. Now here are some other thoughts: Real Ski from the X Games was a great addition to incorporate more aspects of skiing. A streetstyle type of thing (like Redbull Play Streets) would be awesome in other competitions.

Conclusion in case you didn’t read it all:
-Dew tour is a good competition but the course needs to be more creative
-The Olympics course is dope
-Competitions should branch out from just pipe and slope
Dec 18 2017 1:47PM
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SkiBum.
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Or have anyone else built the course. SPT is a joke. They build the same stuff, year after year, charge an insane amount for marginal work. Then of course make promotional videos showing how awesome they are. "Look how much work and snow went into this! Best jump ever"...shit is the same jump from 2012. Garbage
Dec 18 2017 2:22PM
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slush8
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Love the direction Dew tour is going in.

I'd like to see a one hit wonder incorporated into Dew. Best new trick wins big money.

I didn't like Slopestyle last year because I think you should hit rails and jumps in one run. That's what makes it challenging and fun to watch. Just make it more creative like the Olympic course or the B & E Invitational.

Love the Team Challenge format, just add in one more hit on the rails. 4 rails, 2 jumps.
Dec 18 2017 5:10PM
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slush8
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Mr.BishopThe idea is to return to a format more similar to last year currently, but the event just ended under 24 hours ago so realistically those discussions haven't taken place yet.

What did you think, did you like this year's format for Jumps/Rails better or the "idea" of what it was supposed to be last year? (Separated 3-jump line and rail garden)


I didn't like last years format because it makes it too much like the team challenge competition. Slopestyle should be rails and jumps in one go. That's the challenge. To see who can balance both in one run while being stylish and tech. Just make it more creative like having side take off on the jumps....

How about having a one hit wonder event on the same day as the team challenge. One run, Best new trick wins big money.
Dec 18 2017 5:25PM
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The.Fish
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I just want somebody to do a wizard trick in a live comp on tv. I think they should have an event that is just like rails to riches. You don't have to worry about falling or being consistent for a whole run. You just have a rail jam with one pad. I get they do that with the street section but it just isn't the same because the athletes can't go crazy since the features aren't that good.
Dec 18 2017 5:27PM
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theabortionator
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eheathYou're so damn confusing man haha. This year was a olympic qualifier, which is why it was traditional. Next year, we have no idea of what is happening.


I'm really not just fucking with you/understanding why that was confusing. Thread title mentions that it's about next year and beyond. My first post mentioned this year being and Olympic qualifier.

I was asking about future events if it would stay the same as this year, as in everyone had given up on last years plan. Or if next year being after the olympics, they would give the format from last year another shot.

Maybe I just worded it poorly? Idk
Mr.BishopThe idea is to return to a format more similar to last year currently, but the event just ended under 24 hours ago so realistically those discussions haven't taken place yet.

What did you think, did you like this year's format for Jumps/Rails better or the "idea" of what it was supposed to be last year? (Separated 3-jump line and rail garden)


I would really like to see the idea of last year get a proper shot. It didn't really work for me with the one jump because it felt like a big air comp. Nobody does 2 or 3 jump comps anymore. I was excited to see it.

I get that it's a bold move shaking things up to that extent, but IMO if it was worth giving it a shot last year, it's worth giving it another shot. Hopefully the weather is better and the comp and run as planned.

Either way I'll still tune in. Watched the "live" stream after the fact late night after work the last few nights. I dug the 4 jumps split with a rail feature in the middle.

Keep us updated when you make some official plans.
Dec 18 2017 5:56PM
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theabortionator
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Any deetz as we approach this year? Hoping there's some cold weather to pump out the snow. Last year was sad, but mother nature can be cruel as fuck.
Oct 15 2018 11:56AM
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eheath
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theabortionatorAny deetz as we approach this year? Hoping there's some cold weather to pump out the snow. Last year was sad, but mother nature can be cruel as fuck.


Finals only, 12 men in slope, 8 women in slope, 10 men in pipe and 8 women in pipe and three brands for the team contest.

FYI before anyone loses their minds, we didn't choose this format and I personally don't agree with this format.
Oct 15 2018 12:05PM
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theabortionator
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eheathFinals only, 12 men in slope, 8 women in slope, 10 men in pipe and 8 women in pipe and three brands for the team contest.

FYI before anyone loses their minds, we didn't choose this format and I personally don't agree with this format.


Will they try and do the split rails and jumps this year or is that dead? Also the mini pipe thing. I know last year was an olympic qualifier so it had to be more straight forward.

Idk, I was stoked for some of the weirdness that was set for 2 years ago before mother nature killed the fun.
Oct 15 2018 1:55PM
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eheath
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theabortionatorWill they try and do the split rails and jumps this year or is that dead? Also the mini pipe thing. I know last year was an olympic qualifier so it had to be more straight forward.

Idk, I was stoked for some of the weirdness that was set for 2 years ago before mother nature killed the fun.


As far as I know everything will be normal, there will be a 'modified' pipe for the team event
Oct 15 2018 1:56PM
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theabortionator
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eheathAs far as I know everything will be normal, there will be a 'modified' pipe for the team event

Word
Oct 15 2018 1:56PM
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yungcraigslist
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Here’s a link to an article where they talk a little about the format. It’s not super helpful but it’s alright


https://www.summitdaily.com/news/sports/whats-new-at-the-dew-tour-breckenridge-event-to-feature-modified-superpipe-with-freestyle-elements/
Oct 18 2018 11:56AM
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