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patagonialukeThey've definitely got my attention.
The original Moment Frankenski had some sort of in-set edges right?
a_burgeryeah, they seemed a bit more complicated and potentially messy though
a_burgerthe only issue I could see would be the base getting damaged easily where it bends, especially on corrugated tubes and other bumpy/shitty rails. I suppose on3p bases would stand the best based on what people say though.
patagonialukeHmm yeah I could see those separate edges being a potential durability issue. ON3P's approach looks very interesting.
snowfinderslide rails with no worries about catching an edge but yet still be able to set a turn and get that metal in.
Ryan.voytI feel like On3p is going to become a core, big name brand like armada, line, etc. If not that, then the king of the ski industry. Vishnu seems like they're on the come up too.
SofaKingSickLove to see people trying new shit out. What does this offer that you couldn't achieve with extensive edge rounding though?
iggyskier:)
That said, should be noted we discuss/test lots of ideas that don't make it to market and we're still early in the process with this one. We've been testing convexity since about 2011, but this design & function is different from all those in the past.
LOLO_FAVREsort of rossignol back in 2001 or 2002?
snowfinderOne stand out are the Oars, what ever happened to those ?
Dustin.Or the black and white Armada T-halls?
Dustin.Or the black and white Armada T-halls?
iggyskierWe still ski them from time to time. Tips aren't too rough, but the tails can get caught up in any 3-d snow. It's a bit funny in that if we continued to pursue that design, which would have led to us smoothing & blending everything a lot, the skis would have ended up like the a jibby BBR.
iggyskiera jibby BBR.
DeepskierI think everyine is forgeting one major aspect here.
ALUMINUM RAILS JUST MIGHT BECOME A POSSIBLE/COMMON THING NOW.
CaptainObvious.So I don't know because I've never beat my edges on rails enough to either bust them or grind them down to nothing, but without an edge, do you essentially lose your semblance of control on the rail? Catchy edges are obviously no good, but don't the edges provide you that little bit of friction you need to maintain control on rails?
Can anyone who's fucked around on skis sans edges (post tearout) speak to whether it gets a little to slippery?
CaptainObvious.Can anyone who's fucked around on skis sans edges (post tearout) speak to whether it gets a little to slippery?
CaptainObvious.So I don't know because I've never beat my edges on rails enough to either bust them or grind them down to nothing, but without an edge, do you essentially lose your semblance of control on the rail? Catchy edges are obviously no good, but don't the edges provide you that little bit of friction you need to maintain control on rails?
Can anyone who's fucked around on skis sans edges (post tearout) speak to whether it gets a little to slippery?
A-cAllyou could compensate by scissoring
CaptainObvious.So I don't know because I've never beat my edges on rails enough to either bust them or grind them down to nothing, but without an edge, do you essentially lose your semblance of control on the rail? Catchy edges are obviously no good, but don't the edges provide you that little bit of friction you need to maintain control on rails?
Can anyone who's fucked around on skis sans edges (post tearout) speak to whether it gets a little to slippery?
DeepskierI would buy these solely for aluminum rails. There is this aluminum curved DFDFD at the sun valley pavilion that could make it on the cover of Freeskier.
AndrewGravesSVThat would actually be insane... get Karl
iggyskierStill being tested and going to be awhile before we are done. As the whole idea here is to increase the longevity of ski edges, testing is going to take awhile just for the sake of proof of concept.
voy10I feel like On3p is going to become a core, big name brand like armada, line, etc. If not that, then the king of the ski industry. Vishnu seems like they're on the come up too.
