I ridden a pair of moment bibbys for the past winter when there was any kind of good snow. Reason of looking for something else is that I think they are a bit too stiff/burly for my liking. I also have a pair of ON3P kartel 98 in a 186 that I ride every other day and love them, I like how soft they are and they are a bit lighter. I've been looking into the Nordica patron but they are not bringing it back for 18/19. So if you have any other skis that are in the same category that I should look into that would be awesome.