ON3P Kartel VS J Skis Allplay

on3p

J Skis

on3p if I wear you those shits charge and they will back it.

Deepskieron3p if I wear you those shits charge and they will back it.

But what like makes on3p so amazing? The durability is great but for like 750? I'd rather get good durability out of j skis for like 450

Ev_schu41But what like makes on3p so amazing? The durability is great but for like 750? I'd rather get good durability out of j skis for like 450

Well you won't be a fan boy, the durabily is un matched but if they do have problems on3p is more likey to fix it. Really I think the move here is demo both skis and get what you like best.

Ev_schu41But what like makes on3p so amazing? The durability is great but for like 750? I'd rather get good durability out of j skis for like 450

J Skis has a warranty too and Jason doesn't hesitate to make sure you're taken care of. He'll call you personally to work out either a refund or a new pair of skis if you have any problems with durability. I'm sure on3p does the same, but for $250 more.

At the end of the day, just ride the brand that will make you want to get up and out there representing. For me, that's J Skis because I always feel the love back.

VailValleySkierJ Skis has a warranty too and Jason doesn't hesitate to make sure you're taken care of. He'll call you personally to work out either a refund or a new pair of skis if you have any problems with durability. I'm sure on3p does the same, but for $250 more.

At the end of the day, just ride the brand that will make you want to get up and out there representing. For me, that's J Skis because I always feel the love back.

I'm right there with ya man! I feel like j lev is always there to help just like a shop. All good coming from j. No doubt on3p makes a solid ski, they just are super expensive

If the damage to your ski is not covered by warranty, ON3P will professionally fix the damage, if you haven't totalled the ski. What other ski company backs their products up like that? For that, what car manufacturer does that?

ON3P

RudyGarmischIf the damage to your ski is not covered by warranty, ON3P will professionally fix the damage, if you haven't totalled the ski. What other ski company backs their products up like that? For that, what car manufacturer does that?

ON3P

J skis does and for $250 less.

Have no experience with j skis. Sounds like a decent brand. J lev seems like an awesome guy. But comparing the build quality and materials on on3p skis to any others in the store there is simply nothing better in this regard .... just from a layman's eye they are often better built than some more expensive brands.

But you don't necessarily choose a ski just because it's durable. You also have to like how it skis (imho the kartel series skis amazingly). Either way though I think you will be happy.

RudyGarmischIf the damage to your ski is not covered by warranty, ON3P will professionally fix the damage, if you haven't totalled the ski. What other ski company backs their products up like that? For that, what car manufacturer does that?

ON3P

I had never heard that. How does that work? Seems like unless I lived close to the factory it would be cheaper to have a shop do base welds and such, but it's cool that they offer it.

CaseyI had never heard that. How does that work? Seems like unless I lived close to the factory it would be cheaper to have a shop do base welds and such, but it's cool that they offer it.

It depends what it is. If it is basic ski repair, we recommend a shop. But if the damage is substantial or you don't have a good local ski shop around, all we ask is that you send the skis to us. We repair them for free and send them back on our dime. We're a bit slow on the turn around (as we are building skis full time, so this is basically a stay late and have a beer sort of deal) but if you can get the skis to us, the rest is free of charge.

OP - asking for clarity on my part - what 2 skis are you comparing where the ON3P is in the same ski range, but is $750 and the Jski is $450? Just never seen any pricing that suggestions a $300 price difference (for example - Magnus @ $599, Whipit @ $549). If you get a deal through ON3P, whether thru proform (as an industry member) or shop form (as an employee of an ON3P-specific retailer), obviously the pricing is less than the $750 you have listed as well.

Just trying to understand your choice.

As for which brand to go with, I'm not here to preach ON3P vs Jskis in regards to performance or durability (nor am I big proponents of ON3P athletes doing so in the forums). Our skis are well spoke for and have the rep they do for a reason. That said, if you think you would be happier on a Jski, I strongly support the decision to buy from J (or Moment, Praxis, or any of the smaller companies that are putting out good skis). Rooting for your competition can be strange, but we have a ton of respect for J and how he's shined the light on some pretty wack things in skiing the past couple years. Skiing needs strong indie companies doing the right thing, so at the end of the day, I'm just really stoked that this thread is between two of the best ski brands out there.

Good luck with your choice.

iggyskierIt depends what it is. If it is basic ski repair, we recommend a shop. But if the damage is substantial or you don't have a good local ski shop around, all we ask is that you send the skis to us. We repair them for free and send them back on our dime. We're a bit slow on the turn around (as we are building skis full time, so this is basically a stay late and have a beer sort of deal) but if you can get the skis to us, the rest is free of charge.

(Slow Clap)

RudyGarmischIf the damage to your ski is not covered by warranty, ON3P will professionally fix the damage, if you haven't totalled the ski. What other ski company backs their products up like that? For that, what car manufacturer does that?

ON3P

Not General Motors

iggyskierOP - asking for clarity on my part - what 2 skis are you comparing where the ON3P is in the same ski range, but is $750 and the Jski is $450? Just never seen any pricing that suggestions a $300 price difference (for example - Magnus @ $599, Whipit @ $549). If you get a deal through ON3P, whether thru proform (as an industry member) or shop form (as an employee of an ON3P-specific retailer), obviously the pricing is less than the $750 you have listed as well.

Just trying to understand your choice.

As for which brand to go with, I'm not here to preach ON3P vs Jskis in regards to performance or durability (nor am I big proponents of ON3P athletes doing so in the forums). Our skis are well spoke for and have the rep they do for a reason. That said, if you think you would be happier on a Jski, I strongly support the decision to buy from J (or Moment, Praxis, or any of the smaller companies that are putting out good skis). Rooting for your competition can be strange, but we have a ton of respect for J and how he's shined the light on some pretty wack things in skiing the past couple years. Skiing needs strong indie companies doing the right thing, so at the end of the day, I'm just really stoked that this thread is between two of the best ski brands out there.

Good luck with your choice.

thanks for a solid response my man! glad to hear that the industry isnt just full of competing companies haha! As for the comparison, the newer Kartels i just find are expensive. The allplay is cheaper than the kartels, and has a similar sidecut. i get around 20 percent off on each company, but still have to get bindings...

iggyskierOP - asking for clarity on my part - what 2 skis are you comparing where the ON3P is in the same ski range, but is $750 and the Jski is $450? Just never seen any pricing that suggestions a $300 price difference (for example - Magnus @ $599, Whipit @ $549). If you get a deal through ON3P, whether thru proform (as an industry member) or shop form (as an employee of an ON3P-specific retailer), obviously the pricing is less than the $750 you have listed as well.

Just trying to understand your choice.

As for which brand to go with, I'm not here to preach ON3P vs Jskis in regards to performance or durability (nor am I big proponents of ON3P athletes doing so in the forums). Our skis are well spoke for and have the rep they do for a reason. That said, if you think you would be happier on a Jski, I strongly support the decision to buy from J (or Moment, Praxis, or any of the smaller companies that are putting out good skis). Rooting for your competition can be strange, but we have a ton of respect for J and how he's shined the light on some pretty wack things in skiing the past couple years. Skiing needs strong indie companies doing the right thing, so at the end of the day, I'm just really stoked that this thread is between two of the best ski brands out there.

Good luck with your choice.

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iggyskierIt depends what it is. If it is basic ski repair, we recommend a shop. But if the damage is substantial or you don't have a good local ski shop around, all we ask is that you send the skis to us. We repair them for free and send them back on our dime. We're a bit slow on the turn around (as we are building skis full time, so this is basically a stay late and have a beer sort of deal) but if you can get the skis to us, the rest is free of charge.

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ. I've never even heard of customer service like that before. I probably wouldn't take advantage of it due to the cost of sending the skis vs going to a local shop and the turn around time, but for someone in your same area code that is an amazing opportunity. I have to have a pair.