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Full on Park tune - How To - By Hand

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DominatorJacques
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This is how I do it. From new ski to Park Special. It only takes me 5 hours and 25 minutes.
Then the base preparation takes another three hours at least plus hot boxing.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/849783/Ski-Tuning-How-To-By-Hand-Park-Special
Dec 14 2016 9:55PM
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freeskibum82
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5 hr on a park ski? great work but waaaay overkill. your attention to detail is great and you put 110% into your work and tune but its a park ski. to prepare it for the park all you need to do is detune tip and tail with a bastard file and detune slightly underfoot to not hangup on rails.
Dec 14 2016 10:16PM
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DominatorJacques
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freeskibum825 hr on a park ski? great work but waaaay overkill. your attention to detail is great and you put 110% into your work and tune but its a park ski. to prepare it for the park all you need to do is detune tip and tail with a bastard file and detune slightly underfoot to not hangup on rails.


Ha ha! To each his own. These are for someone else. Not mine.
There are benefits to a high end tuned ski. This one will still grip a turn. It would do well in a half pipe too.
A well versed skier can tell the difference.
Dec 14 2016 10:33PM
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Cadenmccullough
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I file down my edges underfoot.... Good enough right?
Dec 14 2016 10:43PM
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freeskibum82
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DominatorJacquesHa ha! To each his own. These are for someone else. Not mine.
There are benefits to a high end tuned ski. This one will still grip a turn. It would do well in a half pipe too.
A well versed skier can tell the difference.


thats why i only detune slightly underfoot and not anywhere after the tip to the start of the binding toe and from the heel to the tail. i run 1deg base, 2deg edge. grip just fine and slide rails without issues.

i will admit, i did skip through the video to see the extent of the tune and it really is a high end tune. well done! i remember watching your other videos on there as well on how to prepare a brand new ski.
Dec 14 2016 10:52PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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CadenmcculloughI file down my edges underfoot.... Good enough right?


yeah thats as far as I go lol, a park skis just gonna get thrashed anyway so for the 99% this seems very excessive
Dec 14 2016 11:46PM
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DominatorJacques
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CadenmcculloughI file down my edges underfoot.... Good enough right?


Good enough for one may not be for another.
Dec 15 2016 12:01PM
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DominatorJacques
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freeskibum82thats why i only detune slightly underfoot and not anywhere after the tip to the start of the binding toe and from the heel to the tail. i run 1deg base, 2deg edge. grip just fine and slide rails without issues.

i will admit, i did skip through the video to see the extent of the tune and it really is a high end tune. well done! i remember watching your other videos on there as well on how to prepare a brand new ski.


Ha ha! 5 hours and 24 minutes! Nobody got time for that!

Yes, skip around. Thanks for the kind comment.
Dec 15 2016 12:04PM
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DominatorJacques
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ski.the.eastyeah thats as far as I go lol, a park skis just gonna get thrashed anyway so for the 99% this seems very excessive


Yes, it will eventually get thrashed. Yet these skis will start on the right foot.

Excessive is only for the few and the proud.

After a bit of testing from the skier we may go with a 2 degree long base.
If so that needs to be done right away, before the edge under foot becomes hammered into a work hardened condition.

Remember, although these skis will hit rails and boxes etc. there is more to skiing than just hitting the steel.
Dec 15 2016 12:13PM
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cozzey
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Can we get one of these for a big mountain/all mountain ski?
Dec 15 2016 1:52PM
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theabortionator
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DominatorJacquesA well versed skier can tell the difference.



Half of the park kids can barely even turn on the way to the park
Dec 15 2016 2:18PM
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The.Fish
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How do you guys sharpen park skis not under foot? My edges are so dull that i cant even link turns on groomers but they worked great when I didn't detune them when i first got them. I really dont feel like getting the edges sharpened and detuning them again
Dec 15 2016 2:19PM
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freeskibum82
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The.FishHow do you guys sharpen park skis not under foot? My edges are so dull that i cant even link turns on groomers but they worked great when I didn't detune them when i first got them. I really dont feel like getting the edges sharpened and detuning them again


if you want edges, you need to get them sharpened. or take notes from Dominator and learn to sharpen yourself. head over to your local shop for a base edger and file and get a side edge file as well. then follow up with a diamond.

Most shops are park rat friendly and will knockdown the area underfoot during a tune if you ask.
Dec 15 2016 2:50PM
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DominatorJacques
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theabortionatorHalf of the park kids can barely even turn on the way to the park


That may depend on snow conditions.
Dec 15 2016 3:47PM
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DominatorJacques
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chiefclulCan we get one of these for a big mountain/all mountain ski?


It's all the same minus the LONG BASE BEVEL

Here is a shorter video with eight parts.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/739780/How-To--New-Ski-Tuning--amp--Base-Preparation-Part-1
Dec 15 2016 3:49PM
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DominatorJacques
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The.FishHow do you guys sharpen park skis not under foot? My edges are so dull that i cant even link turns on groomers but they worked great when I didn't detune them when i first got them. I really dont feel like getting the edges sharpened and detuning them again


You will be hard pressed to resharpen a work hardened hammered edge from banging rails. Once that's done, it's pretty much done.
You may be able to resharpen the extremities, and that will help your turning.
Dec 15 2016 3:53PM
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DominatorJacques
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Update. This is a note I got from the owner of the "Park Tuned" skis. He is a very good skier.

Quote: "Jacques,
Just put my chronics on these last two days. Very impressed with how they handle. Easy to get on edge but didn't catch on jibs!!! Well done and thanks to you Sir. "

The proof is in the pudding!
Dec 27 2016 12:39PM
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DominatorJacques
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DominatorJacquesThis is how I do it. From new ski to Park Special. It only takes me 5 hours and 25 minutes.
Then the base preparation takes another three hours at least plus hot boxing.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/849783/Ski-Tuning-How-To-By-Hand-Park-Special


I give you a FREE ski tuning clinic here without trying to sell you anything!
It may take you some time to finish the class, but it can change your skiing life for the rest of it. How may years you figure on skiing?
Education for free is awesome and I do my best to keep it entertaining too!
If you skip any........you miss half the fun.
Watch it with your friends and have a party. Laugh and discuss what you have seen and learned.
Tools are an investment for sure, but will pay dividends to your skiing for life!

All and any questions will be answered at the YouTube comments, so feel free to ask or leave comments.
Mar 8 2017 8:49PM
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Cadenmccullough
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Just curious how expensive these crazy tunes you do are?
Mar 8 2017 9:45PM
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DominatorJacques
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CadenmcculloughJust curious how expensive these crazy tunes you do are?


I charged this guy 70 big dollars. (he's a friend) It's a labor of love. It's retail value at a shop that provides this level of HAND tuning (good luck, there are few, but some out there) is 120 to 150 dollars.

But really the point is to help others to learn to do for themselves because I care.

Dude been riding park for years and said the skis were dope as "F"! No grabbing on rails and still rail a turn!

It's all about proper geometry. Way less chance of top sheet damage and premature edge damage. Maximum life of park ski and a super buttery toy!
Mar 8 2017 10:11PM
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Cadenmccullough
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DominatorJacquesI charged this guy 70 big dollars. (he's a friend) It's a labor of love. It's retail value at a shop that provides this level of HAND tuning (good luck, there are few, but some out there) is 120 to 150 dollars.

But really the point is to help others to learn to do for themselves because I care.

Dude been riding park for years and said the skis were dope as "F"! No grabbing on rails and still rail a turn!

It's all about proper geometry. Way less chance of top sheet damage and premature edge damage. Maximum life of park ski and a super buttery toy!


Actually a lot cheaper than I thought it would be.
Mar 8 2017 10:15PM
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DominatorJacques
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CadenmcculloughActually a lot cheaper than I thought it would be.


Like I said he's my home boy. Even a shop that does this level of work don't spend the time I do. They charge you 120, but you get 50! I have low overhead and I do it because I have OCD and pride in workmanship!
Mar 8 2017 10:37PM
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ZeMagnificentKev
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Shit man your OCD would probably make your head explode seeing and hearing about my skies. But for sure different strokes for different folks, Ill spend months painting my miniatures, or years re-reading books so I hear you. Fuck Goepper should hire you as a professional tuner or someone on the professional circuit atleast. Calling it now, Slopestyle guys having pit crews.
Mar 9 2017 1:14AM
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DominatorJacques
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ZeMagnificentKevShit man your OCD would probably make your head explode seeing and hearing about my skies. But for sure different strokes for different folks, Ill spend months painting my miniatures, or years re-reading books so I hear you. Fuck Goepper should hire you as a professional tuner or someone on the professional circuit atleast. Calling it now, Slopestyle guys having pit crews.


Ha ha! You can do it after you watch and practice!
Mar 9 2017 9:31AM
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