Climate change

Profahoben_212So you got flamed the last time you brought it up....and now you wanna do it again? Uhhh okay

CampeadorClimate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese.

AuschieThis is the reason this presidential and congressional election mattered so heavily. Having congressmen that denounce science is dangerous for our future. Fossil fuels have too much money and influence in politics and it is preventing us from having a path towards renewable energy. It isn't going to be a swift process but converting to renewables is imperative. Other countries are already well on their way such as Sweden, Costa Rica, the UK, Germany, shit even China utilize a larger percentage of renewables than the US. It's not just a benefit from an emissions standpoint. Renewables mean no potential for oil spills, no need for harmful mining, no need for fracking which has the potential to harm out freshwater sources and disrupt wildlife. The temperature spike seen in the past 100 years is alarming and should be taken seriously.

To me it's pathetic that Americans boast being a great country and that we are going to make America great again by removing fossil fuel restrictions to boost our economy. Fuck fossil fuels. Fuck coal. Fuck oil. Fuck natural gas. It's just viewed as money and only leads to problems. If the US truly wants to be a strong company it needs to get its head in the game and start worrying about the effects our emmission levels have on the world.

JTTremblesYou sir need to shut the fuck up and get back to sucking Trump's dick, he's probably wondering where you're at.

CampeadorClimate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese.

K-Dot.You're a shitty troll and if you aren't a troll then just a shitty human.


I'm just looking forward to the rising sea levels swallowing up the shithole of a state that Florida is

JTTremblesWhether or not climate change is totally man made or not, we definitely have a huge contribution to it. All of our industrial advances emit tons of harmful gases into our atmosphere like methane and carbon dioxide. And we so happened to see a huge increase in temperature in the past 60 years because of our industrial advances releasing green house gases into our atmosphere which trap too much heat which is suppose to filter out of our earth. I think its pretty arrogant to just turn our heads and say it might not be our fault. I think there's simply too many coincidences to say that we have not impacted our earth's climate. We have scientific evidence of all the horrible things that can/will happen if our climate continues to persist the way it is and has been. Why have we seen such a spark in harmful climate change as industry, coal and fossil fuel usage, and transportation really started to take off? The world is only so big and it can only take so much. Gases do damage. Despite whether shifts we have never seen such a rapid change in climate like this, ice ages and other whether phenomena's take hundreds/thousands of years to take hold. Our polar ice caps should not have melted so much and so rapidly in ONLY the past 30 years. That's fucked up and that's something that will have a huge impact on our civilization. Cape cod, at least parts of it, are predicted to be underwater within our life time. Climate change is definitely man made. and on a side note, no it's not some hoax. Why the fuck would china just make it up and change the way they're industry and economy works to keep the global warming temperature increase below 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit? Idk why some people refuse to believe it, like why? Why ignore the fact we might be harming our planet.

Check this shit out:

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/page6.php

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data

http://www.capecodtimes.com/article/20140425/NEWS/404250341

Gods_FatherThere are more than 30,000 scientists who signed a petition challenging the climate change narrative, 9000 with PhDs after nasa scientist John Casey announced that solar cycles are largely responsible for warming periods on earth.

milk_manSo you remember it and I don't? lol

Auschieclimate change denier who needs to get bent. You'd think of all states they'd be more worried about rising sea levels.

Profahoben_212I thought it was you...must not have been haha...carry on.

Anthropogenic climate change is real...but natural warming of the earth is there as well. But to say that humans haven't sped up the process is quite silly

Gods_Father"In 2014 there were record amounts of ice reported in Antarctica, an increase in arctic ice and record snowfalls across the globe."(there are still glaciers melting with the potential to raise sea level...been happening since ice age though, humans once lived in the English Channel)
There are more than 30,000 scientists who signed a petition challenging the climate change narrative, 9000 with PhDs after nasa scientist John Casey announced that solar cycles are largely responsible for warming periods on earth.

Gods_Father"In 2014 there were record amounts of ice reported in Antarctica, an increase in arctic ice and record snowfalls across the globe."(there are still glaciers melting with the potential to raise sea level...been happening since ice age though, humans once lived in the English Channel)
There are more than 30,000 scientists who signed a petition challenging the climate change narrative, 9000 with PhDs after nasa scientist John Casey announced that solar cycles are largely responsible for warming periods on earth.

Lonely"The boat can't possibly be sinking because look, my end is going up!"

Iliveinutahok so yes the climate is going through a change naturally ever 11 years called the solar cycle and that is simply because of the sun having high and low peaks in activity. This has nothing to do with climate change. However, to look at the data for climate change you must not look at the temperature because we have not yet reached the point where we have extremely critical temperature changes. To notice man-made destruction on the climate you must study the history of PPM of carbon in the air as well as the type of carbon. We know the amount of carbon in the atmosphere from 800,000 years ago thanks to ice core drilling in Greenland, the process works by the ice sheet having small frozen pockets of air in them that we can drill and extract and measure the chemical makeup of the atmosphere all the way up till present day. Carbon is a known greenhouse gas meaning it is known to let heat in but not out. if you look at this FACTUAL DATA gathered by these drilling you can graph it and see that carbon has natural level of 200-275PPM over the last 800,000 years. today's reading have shown that we have just surpassed the 400PPM mark. the rapid climb in carbon started at the beginning of the industrial revolution when we started burning carbon for energy ever since then it has been increasing at a rate that the earth HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE HUMANS!

secondly you must examine the type of carbon that we are seeing in the atmosphere today you will find that most all of the carbon I'm talking 90% is the isotope carbon 12 turns out that the only way that carbon 12 gets into the air is by the burning of very old carbon based life aka fossil fuels, and guess what we are the only thing on this planet that is doing just that! carbon 14 is the naturally occurring carbon in the atmosphere so if we were not the cause of climate change you would see large fluctuations in the percentage of carbon 14 but you do not. There are other greenhouse gases that also are being emitted more heavily now than ever but carbon is our number 1 problem. Oh and just a fun fact carbon 12 has a half life of 5730 years so if we are to stop polluting right now the carbon would still be here for another 5730 years.

you can fact check everything I said. If anyone has any questions just hit me up!

RusticlesGood Info,

What are the doomsday scenarios If we continue to pollute at this rate? what is the outcome if we could significantly reduce our output from this day forward?
thanks,

Gods_FatherThe boat will surely sink because look, there are waves.

Iliveinutahok so yes the climate is going through a change naturally ever 11 years called the solar cycle and that is simply because of the sun having high and low peaks in activity. This has nothing to do with climate change. However, to look at the data for climate change you must not look at the temperature because we have not yet reached the point where we have extremely critical temperature changes. To notice man-made destruction on the climate you must study the history of PPM of carbon in the air as well as the type of carbon. We know the amount of carbon in the atmosphere from 800,000 years ago thanks to ice core drilling in Greenland, the process works by the ice sheet having small frozen pockets of air in them that we can drill and extract and measure the chemical makeup of the atmosphere all the way up till present day. Carbon is a known greenhouse gas meaning it is known to let heat in but not out. if you look at this FACTUAL DATA gathered by these drilling you can graph it and see that carbon has natural level of 200-275PPM over the last 800,000 years. today's reading have shown that we have just surpassed the 400PPM mark. the rapid climb in carbon started at the beginning of the industrial revolution when we started burning carbon for energy ever since then it has been increasing at a rate that the earth HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE HUMANS!

secondly you must examine the type of carbon that we are seeing in the atmosphere today you will find that most all of the carbon I'm talking 90% is the isotope carbon 12 turns out that the only way that carbon 12 gets into the air is by the burning of very old carbon based life aka fossil fuels, and guess what we are the only thing on this planet that is doing just that! carbon 14 is the naturally occurring carbon in the atmosphere so if we were not the cause of climate change you would see large fluctuations in the percentage of carbon 14 but you do not. There are other greenhouse gases that also are being emitted more heavily now than ever but carbon is our number 1 problem. Oh and just a fun fact carbon 12 has a half life of 5730 years so if we are to stop polluting right now the carbon would still be here for another 5730 years.

you can fact check everything I said. If anyone has any questions just hit me up!

mirozC-12 is radioactively stable; it's C-14 that has the 5730 year half life. C-12 is removed from the atmosphere in a few ways, but the primary mechanism is dissolution in the ocean (20-200 years) - this leads to ocean acidification. The rest goes away more slowly. Overall, carbon in the atmosphere can be around for thousands of years.

Just clarifying. Didn't know about sourcing atmospheric carbon isotopically, that's neat, I'll have to look into that.

CampeadorThe Paris Agreement is a fraud made to weaken Western nations.

When are you people going to give up on this nonsense? It's like a religion for you.

IliveinutahThe people that are "treating this like a religion" are fighting for you and your children. We the supporters have nothing to gain from supporting reduction in pollution its a completely selfless movement of activism to save the natural world and species for future generations to enjoy.
please take moment to read some of the above posts (mine) with a open mind.

Iliveinutahwell doomsday is a way to look at it but the issue is that we won't just have this big falling out all at one time it will a gradual decrease in the quilty of life such that the deniers of science still have a foothold to the argument " well it's only 2 degrees what does that hurt"

CampeadorYou sound just like the people who show up at my door handing out these,

IliveinutahThe people that are "treating this like a religion" are fighting for you and your children. We the supporters have nothing to gain from supporting reduction in pollution its a completely selfless movement of activism to save the natural world and species for future generations to enjoy.
please take moment to read some of the above posts (mine) with a open mind.

milk_manI usually get confused because the same people who want to reduce pollution are almost always supporters of new technology, which almost always uses energy.. I saw a video of this Tesla and it showed the average kWh per mile and it was around 1 kWh per mile... yeah he was driving it hard but still.. that's so freaking bad.. that's almost one pound of coal per mile. (I think most electric cars get 3-6 miles per kWh, somewhere in there).

milk_manI usually get confused because the same people who want to reduce pollution are almost always supporters of new technology, which almost always uses energy.. I saw a video of this Tesla and it showed the average kWh per mile and it was around 1 kWh per mile... yeah he was driving it hard but still.. that's so freaking bad.. that's almost one pound of coal per mile. (I think most electric cars get 3-6 miles per kWh, somewhere in there).

S.J.WDifference between petrol and electricity is that we have renewable forms of electricity. So your point is kind of stupid. You're basically saying that because we use energy we can't advocate for climate measures?

milk_manAbout 13% of electricity is generated by renewable sources. Hypothetically electricity can be clean, yes

HodorIt is absurd to me that this is still an argument. Climate change is man made. Right wing folks have been spitting out complete bullshit and are only holding us back.

milk_manExchange "right wing folks" with "14% of climate scientists."

milk_manExchange "right wing folks" with "14% of climate scientists."

eheathWe get it, you don't think climate change is real. Believe what you want, but this is a skiing website, climate change is literally fucking our ski season over and will end skiing in the future. But yeah, lets keep drilling for oil, fracking for natural gas and pump our atmosphere with more and more carbon, I bet it'll just keep snowing...

CampeadorI'm sure you'll still use your gasoline-fueled car to get there. If they stop drilling, how do you fill up? Oh right, Teslas for everyone! Give me a break.

Wind and solar are not practical sources of energy to meet demand, at all. People would likely freeze to death, or rely on burning wood.

Wind and solar energy wreak havoc on electrical grids, due to fluctuations in power input, meaning that oftentimes quick-response coal power plants must be fired up to meet shortages in supply. Completely defeats the purpose.

Natural gas burns very cleanly as opposed to other hydrocarbons.

What is needed is not these ineffective renewable energy sources, which are a pipe dream at best, and a non affordable nightmare at worst. The emphasis should be on research related to capturing carbon exhaust, preventing it from entering the atmosphere.

CampeadorOne thing I always wonder about the 7th Day Climate Adventists,

do you really believe that wind and solar power can power the globe?

How naive are you?

milk_manAbout 13% of electricity is generated by renewable sources. Hypothetically electricity can be clean, yes