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Getting into Canada with a DUI
So long story short I've been working in Denali National Park all summer and have a friend coming up to visit and was gonna roll back with him after we check out some stuff in AK. Sounds like a fun trip right? Except for one little stipulation hanging over my head from 2 years ago. The dreaded DUI..... I have done a decent amount of research looking into the matter and it appears you can apply for TRP (Temporary Resident Permit) for a disclosed period of time at the border guards discretion. I have also heard of people just cruising right through with DUI's.... Just wanted to know what experience you all have had concerning the topic. I have a back up plan if all else fails to just fly out of Fairbanks but again thats worst case scenario. Were planning on coming in at Top of the World Highway in about a week and a half.
also what are your experiences with the Alcan Border Crossing
I would call the CBSA, they have been really helpful when I had questions and they probably will have a lot better information than what you will find by word of mouth. Just make sure to explain your situation very clearly.
There #
1-800-461-9999
The hours are limited so you might have to try mid-day.
There #
1-800-461-9999
The hours are limited so you might have to try mid-day.
+k ty ^
anyone have any personal experiences though, just trying to get a feel for what to expect when i attempt to cross
anyone have any personal experiences though, just trying to get a feel for what to expect when i attempt to cross
no personal experiences, but from what I heard definitely don't divulge that you've had a DUI willingly. the Canadians might not have that information on hand depending on what data sharing agreements they have with what police departments. I'd just go try it out.
There was a Canadian who recently was crossing into the US and a border guard asked him if he had ever smoked pot before. He said yes, he had in the past. Him admitting that meant they did not allow him to cross the border and is banned from entering the US for life. A lawyer I heard talking about this said if you're at the border and they ask question like that just deny deny deny.
There was a Canadian who recently was crossing into the US and a border guard asked him if he had ever smoked pot before. He said yes, he had in the past. Him admitting that meant they did not allow him to cross the border and is banned from entering the US for life. A lawyer I heard talking about this said if you're at the border and they ask question like that just deny deny deny.
heard that. i mean worst case is you get banned for a few years or in some cases such as that one, for life. obviously i dont know what my future holds and i'd like to be admissible to canada one day, but it wouldnt be the end of the world. fuck it im going for it. i got a flight with insurance out of fairbanks if i get denied and my homie has to make the drive by himself to seattle to meet me ha
I personally haven't had any bad experiences at the Alcan boarder crossing but my buddy has gone through a lot of shit with them in the past while mostly transporting horses across, but also just crossing the boarder in general. Most of them are assholes but play it cool and you should be fine.
whiteboiI personally haven't had any bad experiences at the Alcan boarder crossing but my buddy has gone through a lot of shit with them in the past while mostly transporting horses across, but also just crossing the boarder in general. Most of them are assholes but play it cool and you should be fine.
see thats what im thinking, my friend and i both have MT drivers licenses and address on our passports, MT plates, hes got a brand new Xterra so it doesnt look sketch at all. on top of that our truck looks like its ready for a road trip i mean we got gas tanks and all sorts of gear strapped to the top rack of it. were obviously heading back home to montana. im hoping no problems will arise. if so like i stated i have my flight to seattle and my friend must make that journey himself which he's aware of and i know he can do.
No experience with DUI's. If your rolling through Juneau hit me up
well even just cruising through the border.... whats the interaction like? do they scan your passports usually or just ask you the usual questions then wave you on if you dont look threatening? unfortunately we wont be rolling through juneau i wish we could but it requires more borders to cross haha
mcnamarskiezalso what are your experiences with the Alcan Border Crossing
When crossing the ALCAN the thing that they look for the most is do you have a car and money to make it through Canada and not break down along the trip. I have seen lots of people get turned around at Whitehorse for having an unreliable car and little cash. Back in the day you actually had to prove you had enough cash to make it through Canada.
They will also ask you the names of every hotel you plan to stay at, so have that info ready
its Canada literally just drive across the border
TSBThey will also ask you the names of every hotel you plan to stay at, so have that info ready
dope. were camping, so we'll be sure to have that info handy thank you for the heads up. And definitely got a stack of $$$$
mcnamarskiezwell even just cruising through the border.... whats the interaction like? do they scan your passports usually or just ask you the usual questions then wave you on if you dont look threatening? unfortunately we wont be rolling through juneau i wish we could but it requires more borders to cross haha
Going into Canada is MUCH more mellow than coming back into the states.
Typical questions include what your citizenship status is(Canadian or US). Where you're going. Why you're going. How long you'll be there. Do you want to declare any items being brought in. Are you bringing in drugs alcohol cigs etc. Who's the owner of the vehicle. What's your license plate number. What's your state of residency and other misc questions. I'm sure they profile people. Though, they'll say it's "random." Just be respectful I guess. Don't look like you're bringing in 100 pounds of cocaine and you should be good!
I'm not familiar with where you're crossing but by me it takes between 2-5 minutes with the border agent.(but if there's traffic it could take longer) You give them your enhanced licenses, passports, pass cards etc. They take them and scan them for check in purposes. I don't believe they do any type of background checking. If you have a warrant that might pop up but your whole life's history isn't there I don't think lol.
MinggGoing into Canada is MUCH more mellow than coming back into the states.
Typical questions include what your citizenship status is(Canadian or US). Where you're going. Why you're going. How long you'll be there. Do you want to declare any items being brought in. Are you bringing in drugs alcohol cigs etc. Who's the owner of the vehicle. What's your license plate number. What's your state of residency and other misc questions. I'm sure they profile people. Though, they'll say it's "random." Just be respectful I guess. Don't look like you're bringing in 100 pounds of cocaine and you should be good!
I'm not familiar with where you're crossing but by me it takes between 2-5 minutes with the border agent.(but if there's traffic it could take longer) You give them your enhanced licenses, passports, pass cards etc. They take them and scan them for check in purposes. I don't believe they do any type of background checking. If you have a warrant that might pop up but your whole life's history isn't there I don't think lol.
From my personal experience, i would have to disagree with your first statement. Living in WA state about 20 miles from the border, going into Canada is much more of a hassle than coming back. I have been searched and questioned numerous times going into Canada (I have a 100% clean record. Not even a speeding ticket.) They even searched my phone, and tried to trick me into telling them I have drugs.
I have never once been searched or questioned coming back into the states. I hand them my passport, they ask where I live, and they say, "Welcome back." Nothing more.
GANDALFFrom my personal experience, i would have to disagree with your first statement. Living in WA state about 20 miles from the border, going into Canada is much more of a hassle than coming back. I have been searched and questioned numerous times going into Canada (I have a 100% clean record. Not even a speeding ticket.) They even searched my phone, and tried to trick me into telling them I have drugs.
I have never once been searched or questioned coming back into the states. I hand them my passport, they ask where I live, and they say, "Welcome back." Nothing more.
I agree. Even as a Canadian I've typically had more negative experiences going back into Canada.
Also I don't think they're allowed to search your phone. I think someone is currently taking CBSA to court over a phone search. It was in the news recently. I think they have to follow the same laws as police when it comes to phones and laptops.
VinnieFI agree. Even as a Canadian I've typically had more negative experiences going back into Canada.
Also I don't think they're allowed to search your phone. I think someone is currently taking CBSA to court over a phone search. It was in the news recently. I think they have to follow the same laws as police when it comes to phones and laptops.
Interesting. I wasnt sure about the phone thing. That happened back in 2013. I wasnt going to argue with them at the time. I knew everything was clean, and I just wanted to get going so I could get to Revelstoke.
GANDALFFrom my personal experience, i would have to disagree with your first statement. Living in WA state about 20 miles from the border, going into Canada is much more of a hassle than coming back. I have been searched and questioned numerous times going into Canada (I have a 100% clean record. Not even a speeding ticket.) They even searched my phone, and tried to trick me into telling them I have drugs.
I have never once been searched or questioned coming back into the states. I hand them my passport, they ask where I live, and they say, "Welcome back." Nothing more.
That's it? Jesus. Going into Canada is so easy by me(Peace Bridge, Rainbow Bridge and also one near the thousand islands). Coming back into NY is a freakin nightmare. I've probably crossed close to 50 times and for the most part I see the opposite from you!
I have not once been asked more than 3-4 questions questions by the Canadian side. Hell, when the Canadians see buffalo on my license, they like the poke fun at the shit show that is buffalo sports. I've always had great experiences going into Canada. But the NY side I usually get stuck answering questions or having the border guys take a lap around my car and/or fully searching it. I guess it really depends where you cross if that's the case!
MinggThat's it? Jesus. Going into Canada is so easy by me(Peace Bridge, Rainbow Bridge and also one near the thousand islands). Coming back into NY is a freakin nightmare. I've probably crossed close to 50 times and for the most part I see the opposite from you!
I have not once been asked more than 3-4 questions questions by the Canadian side. Hell, when the Canadians see buffalo on my license, they like the poke fun at the shit show that is buffalo sports. I've always had great experiences going into Canada. But the NY side I usually get stuck answering questions or having the border guys take a lap around my car and/or fully searching it. I guess it really depends where you cross if that's the case!
Weird. Part of it too, is that marijuana is legal in WA/OR. They probably have a lot of people who think its a good idea to bring bud over the border (since you cant walk into a store and buy it in BC). Those people are dumb because everyone knows how easy it is to find bud in BC.
Also the Bills suck so i dont blame the border guards for poking fun at them.
GANDALFWeird. Part of it too, is that marijuana is legal in WA/OR. They probably have a lot of people who think its a good idea to bring bud over the border (since you cant walk into a store and buy it in BC). Those people are dumb because everyone knows how easy it is to find bud in BC.
Also the Bills suck so i dont blame the border guards for poking fun at them.
Ahhhhhh that's very, very true. I didn't think of that bit I could definitely see that playing a huge part in it.
Yeah you're right hahaha.
GANDALFInteresting. I wasnt sure about the phone thing. That happened back in 2013. I wasnt going to argue with them at the time. I knew everything was clean, and I just wanted to get going so I could get to Revelstoke.
Actually I just looked it up and am wrong. Border guards can search your phone and computer without warrant and without arresting you, unlike police which need a warrant or an arrest.
The case was that the guy had refused to give his password for his phone to CBSA so they arrested him as a result. Apparently there hasn't been a constitutional challenge about it yet so it's fine for them to do.
It's easy for Canadians to enter Canada and for Americans to enter America... shocking.
U.S border patrol is a bunch of paranoid cocks. Never have good experiences coming back to the states.
MinggGoing into Canada is MUCH more mellow than coming back into the states.
Typical questions include what your citizenship status is(Canadian or US). Where you're going. Why you're going. How long you'll be there. Do you want to declare any items being brought in. Are you bringing in drugs alcohol cigs etc. Who's the owner of the vehicle. What's your license plate number. What's your state of residency and other misc questions. I'm sure they profile people. Though, they'll say it's "random." Just be respectful I guess. Don't look like you're bringing in 100 pounds of cocaine and you should be good!
I'm not familiar with where you're crossing but by me it takes between 2-5 minutes with the border agent.(but if there's traffic it could take longer) You give them your enhanced licenses, passports, pass cards etc. They take them and scan them for check in purposes. I don't believe they do any type of background checking. If you have a warrant that might pop up but your whole life's history isn't there I don't think lol.
see im just worried about the whole fucking scan. the way i understood it is your whole life comes up..... idk i guess we will find out and ill be sure to let you all know!
MinggGoing into Canada is MUCH more mellow than coming back into the states.
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I've found the opposite true too. At the Montana/Alberta borders I've received much quicker and more friendly treatment from the Americans, much ruder and more interrogation from the Canadians.
I think a lot of it depends on your living status and travel plans - I was living in Canada but am not Canadian so they scrutinised my movements and status more.
GANDALFFrom my personal experience, i would have to disagree with your first statement. Living in WA state about 20 miles from the border, going into Canada is much more of a hassle than coming back. I have been searched and questioned numerous times going into Canada (I have a 100% clean record. Not even a speeding ticket.) They even searched my phone, and tried to trick me into telling them I have drugs.
I have never once been searched or questioned coming back into the states. I hand them my passport, they ask where I live, and they say, "Welcome back." Nothing more.
Weird I've been searched a handful of times coming back into the states, had the border guards be complete assholes when someone lost their ID or didn't have the right answer or something, never had any hassle or as much as a second glance or anything getting into Canada. I have seen people get straight up denied because of prior DUIs though, that's a bummer.
CaseyWeird I've been searched a handful of times coming back into the states, had the border guards be complete assholes when someone lost their ID or didn't have the right answer or something, never had any hassle or as much as a second glance or anything getting into Canada. I have seen people get straight up denied because of prior DUIs though, that's a bummer.
right.... i have a strange feeling its gonna pop up if they do said scan on my credentials. oh well worth a shot regardless
mcnamarskiezright.... i have a strange feeling its gonna pop up if they do said scan on my credentials. oh well worth a shot regardless
I drove to canada and back when I worked at denali princess. Had a duI and got there and back no problem with weed and 20 g's in cash just send it.
mcnamarskiezright.... i have a strange feeling its gonna pop up if they do said scan on my credentials. oh well worth a shot regardless
Well it depends on if you were actually convicted. If you got a deferral or plead it down to reckless or whatever you might be good to go.
HAMNATIONI drove to canada and back when I worked at denali princess. Had a duI and got there and back no problem with weed and 20 g's in cash just send it.
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No personal experience but my step brother had huge issues trying to set up a two week mountain biking trip in whistler due to his previous DUI, he said he had to wait an allotted amount of time (not sure, think a few years) to go to Canada and he was pretty pissed about it.
I haven't gotten a DUI but I witnessed a ton of shenanigans from '09-'13 while I was in college. I went to school in Niagara Falls (US) and my class was explicitly told that if you had a DUI or got one while at school don't even attempt to go into Canada (not even over the rainbow bridge for a night out in the Falls (Canadian side).
We all kinda laughed this off but by our sophomore year ('10-'11) people kept getting turned away. Someone I didn't even know had a DUI was turned around at the bridge en route to a concert in Toronto. I don't remember hearing about it happening in the later years of college but definitely '10-'12 people weren't disclosing it but the monitor the CBP was reading definitely hit a ding-ding for DUI.
I have no idea where it's at right now but your best bet is calling them before hand and telling them "hey, I want to do this, I have no intention of even driving in your country, will you be cool with me swinging though?" Disclose it all, especially if it happened a couple years back. I say this because around the end of college one person I know, who got a DUI in New York but was from the west coast had zero issues going into and out of Canada in the PNW (not sure the crossings or anything but that's where he was from).
Just so everyone knows, the US and Canadian systems do talk to each other. It's what prevents bad people in Canada from coming to the US and vice versa. Both sides agencies talk... a lot.
We all kinda laughed this off but by our sophomore year ('10-'11) people kept getting turned away. Someone I didn't even know had a DUI was turned around at the bridge en route to a concert in Toronto. I don't remember hearing about it happening in the later years of college but definitely '10-'12 people weren't disclosing it but the monitor the CBP was reading definitely hit a ding-ding for DUI.
I have no idea where it's at right now but your best bet is calling them before hand and telling them "hey, I want to do this, I have no intention of even driving in your country, will you be cool with me swinging though?" Disclose it all, especially if it happened a couple years back. I say this because around the end of college one person I know, who got a DUI in New York but was from the west coast had zero issues going into and out of Canada in the PNW (not sure the crossings or anything but that's where he was from).
Just so everyone knows, the US and Canadian systems do talk to each other. It's what prevents bad people in Canada from coming to the US and vice versa. Both sides agencies talk... a lot.
Well I'm in Canada as we speak haha. Got to the border and they asked our vehicle and the other vehicle my friends were in to pull over to the side until an agent spoke with us. They scanned our passports then after about 10 minutes the same border agent came out and handed us our passports and said we were good to go. haha needless to say, I thought I was fucked and was a little unnerved, however that was a huge relief. Travel plans worked out and its been one of the coolest road trips I've been on. Started in Denali, went up to the Arctic, down to the Kenai, Wrangell St. Elias, now back home to Montana. I don't know if that border guard just let us through at his own discretion or my DUI didn't come up. All I know is I'm here for the french fries and gravy, and I definitely made it. If your sketching about your DUI and crossing into Canada, fucking send it son..... you won't know unless you try. Thanks everyone for the advice and stories haha. WORD IS BOND! PEACE!
mcnamarskiezWell I'm in Canada as we speak haha. Got to the border and they asked our vehicle and the other vehicle my friends were in to pull over to the side until an agent spoke with us. They scanned our passports then after about 10 minutes the same border agent came out and handed us our passports and said we were good to go. haha needless to say, I thought I was fucked and was a little unnerved, however that was a huge relief. Travel plans worked out and its been one of the coolest road trips I've been on. Started in Denali, went up to the Arctic, down to the Kenai, Wrangell St. Elias, now back home to Montana. I don't know if that border guard just let us through at his own discretion or my DUI didn't come up. All I know is I'm here for the french fries and gravy, and I definitely made it. If your sketching about your DUI and crossing into Canada, fucking send it son..... you won't know unless you try. Thanks everyone for the advice and stories haha. WORD IS BOND! PEACE!
Told you dawg
mcnamarskiezWell I'm in Canada as we speak haha. Got to the border and they asked our vehicle and the other vehicle my friends were in to pull over to the side until an agent spoke with us. They scanned our passports then after about 10 minutes the same border agent came out and handed us our passports and said we were good to go. haha needless to say, I thought I was fucked and was a little unnerved, however that was a huge relief. Travel plans worked out and its been one of the coolest road trips I've been on. Started in Denali, went up to the Arctic, down to the Kenai, Wrangell St. Elias, now back home to Montana. I don't know if that border guard just let us through at his own discretion or my DUI didn't come up. All I know is I'm here for the french fries and gravy, and I definitely made it. If your sketching about your DUI and crossing into Canada, fucking send it son..... you won't know unless you try. Thanks everyone for the advice and stories haha. WORD IS BOND! PEACE!
Told you dawg
Go into the boundary waters and sneak across the border from there. It looks pretty easy..if canoeing doesn't bother you
Glad it all worked out for ya, OP!
Sick dude. It's hit or miss but good on not mentioning it. IF you mention it you'll pretty much never get in.
Have fun man
Have fun man
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