Terrorist attack in Tel Aviv

theBearJewhttp://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/middleeast/israel-tel-aviv-shooting/index.html

4 killed, 13 suffered gun shot wounds, and 4 including the suspect are being treated at hospitals.

Two Palestinian terrorists opened fire at a market. Where is the media and world reaction to this terrorist attack? Where are the #IAmTelAviv posts?

Ill tell you where the media are; BBC, USA Today, The New York Times, and probably other major news outlets are focusing not on the terrorist attack that killed four in Tel Aviv, but that "Palestinian permits are frozen after attack" -BBC Headline about the terrorist attack. BBC also has the headline "Tel Aviv shooting: Israel suspends Palestinian permits"

"Israel imposes travel restrictions on Palestinians after Tel Aviv attack" - New York Times headline

"Israel revokes travel permits, deploys troops after attacks" -USA Today headline

Its unbelievable. A terrorist attack was carried out in a market similar to where one was in Paris and the media is running headlines about travel permits being suspended during Ramadan. What the fuck. Israel is hit with a terrorist attack, yet somehow they are still pictured as the bad guys.

I usually try to keep my opinions out of the OP, but fuck it this time. This is such bullshit.

californiagrownThe travel restrictions shouldn't have happened, because you shouldn't punish an entire populace for the actions of a few. And the attack should never have happened because attacking and punishing innocent civilians is evil and is a terrible strategy to get your way.

J.D.These things are not fucking equivalent! Christ!

J.D.You absolutely cannot be stupid enough to fail to recognize the rhetorical juxtaposition you just used to place the two items in balance. I just can't believe that's possible. You wouldn't be able to operate a computer.

RedneckGravyIt's Israel, it's cool to be anti-Israeli these days.

VinnieFwhat? no it's not. who is anti-Israeli just to be cool? Maybe in Iran, but not in the Western world. A lot of people dislike Israel because they are misinformed cunts, not because 'it's cool'

THEDIRTYBUBBLEFixed it

VinnieFwell clearly you know nothing about the history of that area over the past 60ish years. There is very solid and substantial reason to hate Israel, just as there is to hate Palestinians. Jews just enjoy the unreserved support of the Western world simply because they are Jews, regardless of what terrible stuff they do. I guess part of the reason is that the Western world doesn't want to seem like they made a massive mistake in creating Israel, part is that there is still guilt from WW2, part is that somehow the Israelis have spun it so you're essentially labelled anti-semetic if you don't agree with them, and part that our media is more influenced by Jews than Palestinians.

Either way, you're a cunt if you can't see massive fault in both sides.

J.D.rhetorical juxtaposition

KravtZThis could be the dumbest post I have read on NS in a looong time.

Israel, yes, was formed controversially, but they are a nation that is highly advanced, and contributes to the world economy in a very very positive way. The Palestinians for the most part are hundreds of years behind modern society, a 3rd world country. They want to eliminate israel. This problem could easily be solved if they chose peace instead of constant hate and attacks.

SkiBum.Who cares. Let the goat fuckers shoot and kill each other. Until it bothers me on my soil I don't care.

KravtZThis could be the dumbest post I have read on NS in a looong time.

Israel, yes, was formed controversially, but they are a nation that is highly advanced, and contributes to the world economy in a very very positive way. The Palestinians for the most part are hundreds of years behind modern society, a 3rd world country. They want to eliminate israel. This problem could easily be solved if they chose peace instead of constant hate and attacks.

KravtZThis could be the dumbest post I have read on NS in a looong time.

Israel, yes, was formed controversially, but they are a nation that is highly advanced, and contributes to the world economy in a very very positive way. The Palestinians for the most part are hundreds of years behind modern society, a 3rd world country. They want to eliminate israel. This problem could easily be solved if they chose peace instead of constant hate and attacks.

KravtZThis could be the dumbest post I have read on NS in a looong time.

Israel, yes, was formed controversially, but they are a nation that is highly advanced, and contributes to the world economy in a very very positive way. The Palestinians for the most part are hundreds of years behind modern society, a 3rd world country. They want to eliminate israel. This problem could easily be solved if they chose peace instead of constant hate and attacks.

onenerdykidThis hatred clearly stems from the Qur'an and Hadith, and is merely (yet assuredly) exacerbated by occupation. To my knowledge, Israel does not even remotely come close to inciting this level of hatred and intolerance towards Palestinians.

californiagrownLol. Israel doesnt encite that level of hatred? Huh? You theink the oppressed people of an apartheid regime are happy with their treatment? What?

skiermanBut yeah man cause like if you criticize Israel, you're like totally an anti-Semite and all Muslims are terrorists, so we gotta have hashtags over a fairly minor terrorist event in an extremely volatile area of the world... mind you volatile because of Israel's brutal leadership.

onenerdykidhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/830752/Palestinian-children--39-s-TV-teaches-terrorism--anti-Semitism

S.J.WThat video is definitely just putting subtitles that don't correctly translate to what they are saying. I google translated this to see if it was true or not and found that the "oh explosive device of glory with her blood she created freedom" translates to ya eatbwat nasifatian almjd mae hammiha 'annaha khalaqt alhurria. And then I speeched it, it sounded a little bit like what they was saying but not enough to conclusively say that word for word it's the martyr they want you to believe it is.

onenerdykidThat doesn't even work with German (having tried personally haha) so I highly doubt that would work with an even more complex language such as Arabic.

A simple Google search comes up with tons of examples, just like the one I posted. Plus, I know it's Wikipedia but the entire article about that Palestinian kid's program would have to be false: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow%27s_Pioneers

onenerdykidYou are misunderstanding my post. I said that Israel does not incite this much hatred towards the Palestinians, meaning Israel is not conducting Nazi-style propaganda against Palestine calling for the death of every Palestinian as a direct order from God. I never said Israel does not contribute to this disaster in their own way. But calling for genocide as a response to occupation is a morally bankrupt position. You yourself said somewhere that killing of Israeli civilians is not right since they are not the ones making the decisions, firing rockets, killing protesters, etc. It's why killing American civilians is not the appropriate response to America's own foreign policy mistakes.

californiagrownDestroying Israel does not equal genocide. It means destroying Israel. Jews come into it because Israel is a Jewish state and it is easy for propaganda to interchange the two similar to how any waring nation stereotypes the opposition.

onenerdykidAt least from the position of Hamas it calls for destroying Israel and the genocide of the Jews. And it is clearly written in the Charter of Hamas, using Qur'anic scripture as its ultimate defense. Part 1, Article 7 of the Charter ends with this quote from the Qur'an: "Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree." This hardly a game of semantics or tribalistic propaganda- it is a blatant call for the genocide of Israel from the group that controls the Gaza Strip.

onenerdykidAre you actually coming to the defense of terrorists who murder innocent Israelis?

onenerdykidAt least from the position of Hamas it calls for destroying Israel and the genocide of the Jews. And it is clearly written in the Charter of Hamas, using Qur'anic scripture as its ultimate defense. Part 1, Article 7 of the Charter ends with this quote from the Qur'an: "Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree." This hardly a game of semantics or tribalistic propaganda- it is a blatant call for the genocide of Israel from the group that controls the Gaza Strip.

VinnieFOut of curiosity, what does it say in the Torah about occupants of their holy land? I assume if you've read so much about the hateful things Palestinians have written I'm assuming you'd also read what the Jewish texts have to say too. It would surprise me greatly if it said nothing about expelling and killing those of a different faith who take over their Holy Land.

VinnieFSo the Israelis are following a book that says people who are living in our Holy Land will either be moved from their lands and swear allegiance to us or we will destroy them.

And here I'd think the terrorist groups text would be way more vile than the one the Jews follow.

onenerdykidI think it's fair to say that the Abrahamic religions are some of the most violent, contradictory, morally abhorrent ideologies our species has ever come up with. They're all pretty terrible but I would put Islam at the top of the shit list.

onenerdykidI would put Islam at the top of the shit list.

VinnieFDefinitely. And Judaism an easy second.

theBearJewWhy? What about Judaism is so bad that we are the second worst in the world?

californiagrownFor being such a tiny religon, you all are hated by just about everyone through out history haha.

I'll go with your lack learned bread though. I don't trust a religon that isn't down with sourdough.

californiagrownThe travel restrictions shouldn't have happened, because you shouldn't punish an entire populace for the actions of a few. \

theBearJewWe werent always tiny... Saying we have been hared throughout history is true, but we have outlasted all of our enemies who wanted to remove us from the earth. No other group of people can say that.

And the bread, you do know why we eat matzah right? And you do know we eat leavened bread..?

Hate us for whatever reason you want, we will always be resilient.

jblaskiAhhhh....aren't you the one talking about massive sweeping gun restrictions in the US after the Orlando shooter?


The fucking irony is overwhelming.

californiagrown...and you don't take jokes well. And your mother's are over bearing.

And Hebrew sounds even more phlegmy than German.

theBearJewI figured you were joking, but the tiny part and hated throughout history is what some people actually think.

And yes, our mothers are overbearing.