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Who thinks Marijuana is a Medicine?

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Lé.Skiing
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I'm just curious what percent of people on NS think that Marijuana is a medicine.





I have been doing a lot of reading up on what people are finding it is good for. I'm finding a lot of stories where it has cured problems that even modern medicine hasn't figured out yet. Now the US Government has actually admitted that cannabis can kill cancer cells. ("Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory(see Question 6)." -Link.)



Some people have also found it to cure some kids with Autism spectrum disorder.

"More recently, Kalel Santiago, a child with autism so severe he wasn't able to speak, started speaking his first words after simply spraying hemp oil in his mouth twice daily according to Dr. Giovanni Martinez, a clinical psychologist in Puerto Rico. Dr. Martinez said, "He started using the product three weeks ago. He was a full non-verbal patient. He only made sounds. The only change in his treatments was the use of CBD." The parents pursued the treatment on their own. Dr. Martinez has also been doing his own research on CBD and shared it with the parents. "I'm very impressed with the language he has acquired," said Dr. Martinez. Dr. Martinez noted that when Kalel couldn't communicate, his behavior became bad as he acted out due to his frustrations, but by opening up his communication abilities his conduct has improved. "He laughs every time he hears his voice," said Dr, Martinez." -Forbes Link



There is plenty more things people are saying it's good for. List of Cures Link (I think this list might have even left a few things out.)



Anyone have any personal stories where they or someone they know have been cured or at least maybe had help from the Cannabis plant?
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Mar 22 2016 3:02PM
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.Hugo.
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The devils lettuce turns you into a murdering psychopath riddled with aids
Mar 22 2016 3:03PM
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eheath
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When I had surgery on my collar bone, I slept better when I smoked weed vs taking opiates.
Mar 22 2016 3:30PM
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No.Quarter
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I often get high when I have a migraine and it actually helps a ton
Mar 22 2016 3:33PM
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KaneDog
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Tanner Hall says he won all of his xgames medals when he was off the chronic
Mar 22 2016 3:33PM
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Panta.Pow
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I also think that weed overall is much better than opiates or other drugs they give you when you get hurt real bad. I had my wisdom teeth pulled out and they were in the worst spot possible. The doctors even told me to go back and take some morphine shots if it started to hurt real bad during the day, but weed really helped me relax and not feel for a while.
Mar 22 2016 3:39PM
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Titus69
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/820661/Stoned-Kids--WEEDIQUETTE-Episode-1-i



t certainly has medicinal values and its funny that the government says it kills cancer cells but wont take it off the list for schedule 1 drugs and legalize it.
Mar 22 2016 3:44PM
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Bodhisattva_
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Most certainly has medicinal value.

I was immersed in the Washington medical marijuana market for years and was actually astounded at the amount of legitimate patients it served.
Mar 22 2016 4:11PM
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Peter.
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it has medicinal value (anti-emetic, painkiller), but the part that has medicinal value is the THC. so THC is a medicine, but marijuana is not
Mar 22 2016 4:18PM
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crotchvent
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Fred_BearThe devils lettuce turns you into a murdering psychopath riddled with aids


It's a medicine but the side effects may not be worth it.
Mar 22 2016 4:30PM
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Pachankz
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Ok op you read one side of the fence now go research the other side , spend a few weeks studying the detrimental effects it can have on some . And in the end make a well rounded opinion. Too many people look at only the potential positives and ignore the negatives . Signed , a 23 year stoner .
Mar 22 2016 4:33PM
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act.resist
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It definitely helps with joint and muscle pain
Mar 22 2016 4:56PM
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Bodhisattva_
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Peter.it has medicinal value (anti-emetic, painkiller), but the part that has medicinal value is the THC. so THC is a medicine, but marijuana is not


False. THC is psychoactive but most of the medicinal properties come from CBD and terpenes. pain reduction specifically comes from CBD mainly. They are also doing research into different terpene/cannabinoid combinations that could have synergistic effects when taken together (i.e vaporizing or combusting flower or oil vs. Taking specially CBD medications without terpenes or other cannabinoids)
Mar 22 2016 5:07PM
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soulskier
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What I found interesting (locally anyway) is that the top selling medical strain is high CBD very little THC, apparently there's more to it than just an excuse to get high

That being said, MI's medical marijuana laws are frustrating most patients/caregivers
Mar 22 2016 5:09PM
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Peter.
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Bodhisattva_False. THC is psychoactive but most of the medicinal properties come from CBD and terpenes. pain reduction specifically comes from CBD mainly. They are also doing research into different terpene/cannabinoid combinations that could have synergistic effects when taken together (i.e vaporizing or combusting flower or oil vs. Taking specially CBD medications without terpenes or other cannabinoids)


you're right. my bad, i literally just learned about this a few months ago.
Mar 22 2016 5:46PM
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Lé.Skiing
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soulskierWhat I found interesting (locally anyway) is that the top selling medical strain is high CBD very little THC, apparently there's more to it than just an excuse to get high

That being said, MI's medical marijuana laws are frustrating most patients/caregivers


There is a guy in Nova Scotia that invented Rick Simpson oil. It's a 50/50 CBD and THC concentrate, He is pretty confident it cures cancer.

From what I have been seeing THC and CBD both work together with your CB 1 & 2 receptors. The CBD however actually cuts back on the THC's "phychoactive" effects.



The funny thing is it's not just Humans that have the receptors Dogs have it mice have it and I'm pretty sure there are more that have them as well.



From what I have been reading it looks like some of the "incurable diseases" that are starting to develop could be because of a lack of Cannabinoids being produced by the body. Link
Mar 22 2016 5:51PM
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skierman
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You can't overdose and die from marijuana so its obviously not a medicine.
Mar 22 2016 6:13PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Peter.it has medicinal value (anti-emetic, painkiller), but the part that has medicinal value is the THC. so THC is a medicine, but marijuana is not


Partly wrong, although I do agree that THC has potential medicinal threapy, CBD for me would be considered the miricle chemical. THC inhibits GABA and induces a greater fear response in the amygdala. For many people THC, the chemical in the cannabis plant that makes you stoned can and does increase anxiety, panic, paranoia, delusions and can significantly alter short term memory. CBD acts to inhibit and/or balence the negative effects of THC. It increases sociability, is an antipsychotic unlike THC and is great for pain and epilepsy. So when people are so against cannabis they have to realize that the plant is very intricate and features various chemicals that act on your body in very different ways.

MY QUESTIONS, why heavily tax CBD the chemical in cannabis that doesn't make you stoned but rather increases sociability, helps epilepsy and various anxiety disorders and to a less degree tax THC? Why tax the minority of people that need a treatment and not the majority of the stoners? Makes zero sense to me.
Mar 22 2016 6:21PM
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qazwsxedc34
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PachankzOk op you read one side of the fence now go research the other side , spend a few weeks studying the detrimental effects it can have on some . And in the end make a well rounded opinion. Too many people look at only the potential positives and ignore the negatives . Signed , a 23 year stoner .


Yes, THC has many long term negative effects if your a chronic user, there are hundreds of studies on ncbi.
Mar 22 2016 6:27PM
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Lé.Skiing
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fuckmekevinMY QUESTIONS, why heavily tax CBD the chemical in cannabis that doesn't make you stoned but rather increases sociability, helps epilepsy and various anxiety disorders and to a less degree tax THC? Why tax the minority of people that need a treatment and not the majority of the stoners? Makes zero sense to me.


As you put it The plant is complex.

They can't tax one part the THC and not tax the CBD. You need both parts for it to work properly. CB 1 receptors are activated by THC and CB 2 receptors are activated by the CBD. There are currently 85 known Cannabinoids, THC and CBD are just two of the most known. I feel we just need a lot more research into what each one does and the part they play in the endocannabinoid system.
Mar 22 2016 6:31PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Lé.SkiingAs you put it The plant is complex.

They can't tax one part the THC and not tax the CBD. You need both parts for it to work properly. CB 1 receptors are activated by THC and CB 2 receptors are activated by the CBD. There are currently 85 known Cannabinoids, THC and CBD are just two of the most known. I feel we just need a lot more research into what each one does and the part they play in the endocannabinoid system.


Definitely! Although, THC and CBD can be taken on their own, each having their benefits and drawbacks. I do think we need to do more research in regards to long term effects and to test the various cannabinoids and their efficacy. I also think psilocybin from psychedelic mushrooms should also be regulated or should be allowed to be tested in labs effectively. It is known to cure cluster headaches and promote neurogenesis. Obviously this chemical comes with many drawbacks but this can be said about most things. What is known is that psilocybin is less harmful for a persons psyche and internals than vitamin c, aspirin, alcohol and cannabis, when taken in excess. There's a reason why CBD is illegal or heavily taxed. It is because it works and can be used to cure and/or aid in a spectrum of illnesses.
Mar 22 2016 7:17PM
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qazwsxedc34
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A need fulfills easy profiting. Let's own the fucking rain!
Mar 22 2016 7:20PM
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p-oskier
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PachankzOk op you read one side of the fence now go research the other side , spend a few weeks studying the detrimental effects it can have on some . And in the end make a well rounded opinion. Too many people look at only the potential positives and ignore the negatives . Signed , a 23 year stoner .


I'm interested in hearing what kind of negative side effects you found?
Really interested in hearing the opinion of a real long term user instead of all those biased researches.
Mar 22 2016 8:18PM
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Pachankz
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p-oskierI'm interested in hearing what kind of negative side effects you found?
Really interested in hearing the opinion of a real long term user instead of all those biased researches.


Complete addiction. Anti social isolation. Paranoid psychosis. Seemingly mania . Definitely withdrawal with a real tough readjustment, including bed sweats, nightmares , extreme insomnia, weight loss during the smoking phase and weight gain back to a normal weight after sobering up. Smoked an ounce a week of the dankness. Eighth a day always no matter what. Sober 5 months now and all the symptoms have subsided. Was a nightmare quitting. I've see several other friends who have smoked 20+ years try to quit and the can't . They make it 24-36 hours max and are absolutely losing it and have to start again .
Mar 22 2016 9:08PM
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Pachankz
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Do some reading about cannabis induced psychosis, cannabis induced mania , cannabis dependence disorder, etc . Shits real man.
Mar 22 2016 9:17PM
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qazwsxedc34
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PachankzComplete addiction. Anti social isolation. Paranoid psychosis. Seemingly mania . Definitely withdrawal with a real tough readjustment, including bed sweats, nightmares , extreme insomnia, weight loss during the smoking phase and weight gain back to a normal weight after sobering up. Smoked an ounce a week of the dankness. Eighth a day always no matter what. Sober 5 months now and all the symptoms have subsided. Was a nightmare quitting. I've see several other friends who have smoked 20+ years try to quit and the can't . They make it 24-36 hours max and are absolutely losing it and have to start again .


Anecdotal accounts.
Can you link any credible studies?
Mar 22 2016 9:18PM
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AT-AT
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Definitely has its medicinal values. Personally it helps with stress, pain, and makes it easier to reflect openly with myself.

But it comes with its negatives as well. It can tends to make me abxious when I come down from a high and messes up my stomach with constant use.

Like everything else it has its pros and cons.
Mar 22 2016 9:31PM
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pussymaster
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the majority of people do not use "medical marijuana" for medical purposes

they use it to get fucking high
Mar 22 2016 9:31PM
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Pachankz
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fuckmekevinAnecdotal accounts.
Can you link any credible studies?


Come again? You're contradicting yourself in previous posts .
Mar 22 2016 10:18PM
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-MK-
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Close to all of the negative effects coming with cannabis(both THC and CBD) are all based on your mentality on the drug. It doesn't technically make you paranoid, it's just your mind thinking of it as a drug(as society made it seem) and now you tend to get anxious thinking deep down it cMauser negative effects. If you were born out of society, and smoked some bud with no previous negative(false) info on it, you probably would have absolutely no problems with it.


Also fuck anyone who says it's addictive, especially that dickhead up there^. Yeah it's addictive, in the way skiing, sex, video games and junk food are addictive. You love it, and find it pointless to not stop, it brings joy to you...

Although, I can agree on a couple negative effects. Smoking every day, and then suddenly stopping, can tend to make it harder to eat, because you are so used to eating with cannabinoids in your system. Same with sleeping, when I go to bed stoned every night, then don't get stoned one night, it will be much harder to pass out. I also agree that large amounts of smoke are obviously not good for your lungs and throat, yet this can be prevented many ways.

All own first hand experience, and I know a lot of others that would agree with me.

On the medicinal side... Obviously... Pot>opiates any day. Opiates make me feel like shit, and never help as much as I hope. Mostly it's placebo, obviously not always, especially in dangerous high doses, like are often prescribed. Plus tons of positive cancer perks, helping anxiety(in the right mindset) and lots and lots of other things.

How do do you want to medicate? Sketchy pills that risk addiction, and threaten your life? Or a natural plant, with minimal negative effects, and no addictive substances.
Mar 22 2016 11:00PM
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Pachankz
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-MK-Close to all of the negative effects coming with cannabis(both THC and CBD) are all based on your mentality on the drug. It doesn't technically make you paranoid, it's just your mind thinking of it as a drug(as society made it seem) and now you tend to get anxious thinking deep down it cMauser negative effects. If you were born out of society, and smoked some bud with no previous negative(false) info on it, you probably would have absolutely no problems with it.


Also fuck anyone who says it's addictive, especially that dickhead up there^. Yeah it's addictive, in the way skiing, sex, video games and junk food are addictive. You love it, and find it pointless to not stop, it brings joy to you...

Although, I can agree on a couple negative effects. Smoking every day, and then suddenly stopping, can tend to make it harder to eat, because you are so used to eating with cannabinoids in your system. Same with sleeping, when I go to bed stoned every night, then don't get stoned one night, it will be much harder to pass out. I also agree that large amounts of smoke are obviously not good for your lungs and throat, yet this can be prevented many ways.

All own first hand experience, and I know a lot of others that would agree with me.

On the medicinal side... Obviously... Pot>opiates any day. Opiates make me feel like shit, and never help as much as I hope. Mostly it's placebo, obviously not always, especially in dangerous high doses, like are often prescribed. Plus tons of positive cancer perks, helping anxiety(in the right mindset) and lots and lots of other things.

How do do you want to medicate? Sketchy pills that risk addiction, and threaten your life? Or a natural plant, with minimal negative effects, and no addictive substances.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_use_disorder
Mar 22 2016 11:10PM
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Pachankz
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-MK-Close to all of the negative effects coming with cannabis(both THC and CBD) are all based on your mentality on the drug. It doesn't technically make you paranoid, it's just your mind thinking of it as a drug(as society made it seem) and now you tend to get anxious thinking deep down it cMauser negative effects. If you were born out of society, and smoked some bud with no previous negative(false) info on it, you probably would have absolutely no problems with it.


Also fuck anyone who says it's addictive, especially that dickhead up there^. Yeah it's addictive, in the way skiing, sex, video games and junk food are addictive. You love it, and find it pointless to not stop, it brings joy to you...

Although, I can agree on a couple negative effects. Smoking every day, and then suddenly stopping, can tend to make it harder to eat, because you are so used to eating with cannabinoids in your system. Same with sleeping, when I go to bed stoned every night, then don't get stoned one night, it will be much harder to pass out. I also agree that large amounts of smoke are obviously not good for your lungs and throat, yet this can be prevented many ways.

All own first hand experience, and I know a lot of others that would agree with me.

On the medicinal side... Obviously... Pot>opiates any day. Opiates make me feel like shit, and never help as much as I hope. Mostly it's placebo, obviously not always, especially in dangerous high doses, like are often prescribed. Plus tons of positive cancer perks, helping anxiety(in the right mindset) and lots and lots of other things.

How do do you want to medicate? Sketchy pills that risk addiction, and threaten your life? Or a natural plant, with minimal negative effects, and no addictive substances.



I have a diagnosis for an addiction disorder. That's with multiple substances/ I've faced it all , meth , alcohol until pancreatitis, opiates , and for me pot was hands down the toughest to quit . I saw a clinical psychologist today, his exact words and several doctors have told me this , pot is now being found in the medical community to be physically, mentally and emotionally addictive. I'll take my doctors words over some herb on newschoolers, thanks .
Mar 22 2016 11:14PM
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kirbstopper
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PachankzI have a diagnosis for an addiction disorder. That's with multiple substances/ I've faced it all , meth , alcohol until pancreatitis, opiates , and for me pot was hands down the toughest to quit . I saw a clinical psychologist today, his exact words and several doctors have told me this , pot is now being found in the medical community to be physically, mentally and emotionally addictive. I'll take my doctors words over some herb on newschoolers, thanks .


Please do show us the evidence that cannabis is physically addicting. I am not debating the mental/emotional addictive properties that can be found, similar to many other stimulating activities.
Mar 22 2016 11:35PM
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corona
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definitely has medicinal benefits. But, despite what stoners swear, there are also negative health effects associated with it (mostly when smoked, however). I'd say it can definitely be an effective medicine for many ailments so long as the benefits outweigh the health risks for high usage that is usually required for medicinal purposes.

Also it 100% acts as an amazing placebo for many people who think of it as a magical plant.
Mar 22 2016 11:46PM
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Pachankz
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kirbstopperPlease do show us the evidence that cannabis is physically addicting. I am not debating the mental/emotional addictive properties that can be found, similar to many other stimulating activities.


There's a thousand and one articles that discuss this , go do some research, here's one took me two seconds to find . http://drug.addictionblog.org/is-weed-addictive/

Better yet, go smoke an eighth a day for 23 years and stop cold turkey.
It's a diasnosable disorder, see my Wikipedia link above, take up the argument with the doctors, I can provide you with an addiction psychiatrist phon number if you'd like to hash it out with her . ??
Mar 22 2016 11:48PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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Lé.SkiingNow the US Government has actually admitted that cannabis can kill cancer cells. ("Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory


I'd have to do a search to see what all these papers deals are. I haven't read too much in support in terms of real scientific literature but I have read a few papers on the angiogenic properties of THC, which is a bad thing for cancer. Plus they keep saying "cannabinoids" or other words, so they're all using different compounds.

Basically there's papers that say good and bad things. I'm gonna go with it doesn't help because if it did, the drug companies would be charging you a fortune for some kind of anti-cancer weed or THC pill/injection and considering how much lobbying power they have, it'd be perfectly legal.

Since I am a lung cancer scientist I'll say one thing, two weeks ago I removed the lungs from a guy who died of lung cancer and someone who did not die of lung cancer. Huge difference. inhaling anything besides dinitrogen and dioxygen is probably bad for you. Even if THC was a miracle drug, only a bunch of edgy teenagers would insist on smoking it, just take it as a pill like a normal person and be on with your day.
Mar 22 2016 11:51PM
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corona
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-MK-Close to all of the negative effects coming with cannabis(both THC and CBD) are all based on your mentality on the drug. It doesn't technically make you paranoid, it's just your mind thinking of it as a drug(as society made it seem) and now you tend to get anxious thinking deep down it cMauser negative effects. If you were born out of society, and smoked some bud with no previous negative(false) info on it, you probably would have absolutely no problems with it.


Also fuck anyone who says it's addictive, especially that dickhead up there^. Yeah it's addictive, in the way skiing, sex, video games and junk food are addictive. You love it, and find it pointless to not stop, it brings joy to you...

Although, I can agree on a couple negative effects. Smoking every day, and then suddenly stopping, can tend to make it harder to eat, because you are so used to eating with cannabinoids in your system. Same with sleeping, when I go to bed stoned every night, then don't get stoned one night, it will be much harder to pass out. I also agree that large amounts of smoke are obviously not good for your lungs and throat, yet this can be prevented many ways.

All own first hand experience, and I know a lot of others that would agree with me.

On the medicinal side... Obviously... Pot>opiates any day. Opiates make me feel like shit, and never help as much as I hope. Mostly it's placebo, obviously not always, especially in dangerous high doses, like are often prescribed. Plus tons of positive cancer perks, helping anxiety(in the right mindset) and lots and lots of other things.

How do do you want to medicate? Sketchy pills that risk addiction, and threaten your life? Or a natural plant, with minimal negative effects, and no addictive substances.


you really have no idea what you're talking about.

-no, negative effects are not based on your mentality. There are both scientifically proven physical and psychological health concerns associated with cannabis consumption.

-no, it actually has been proven to be neurochemically addictive. That is to say there humans have certain receptors activated by compounds in cannabis that lead to a certain level of addiction in the same sense opiates are addictive.

-your next paragraph after saying it's only addictive in the way skiing or sex is addicted kind of disproves what you said. Do you have trouble eating and sleeping if you've been skiing a lot or having a lot of sex often then stop? The trouble eating and sleeping is called withdrawal. Mild, but still withdrawal. And yes, you are correct. Smoke, in any form, is not good for your lungs.

-opiates are placebo?? wtf?

-yes, cannabis is definitely a superior alternative to many prescriptions used today.
Mar 22 2016 11:59PM
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-MK-
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PachankzThere's a thousand and one articles that discuss this , go do some research, here's one took me two seconds to find . http://drug.addictionblog.org/is-weed-addictive/

Better yet, go smoke an eighth a day for 23 years and stop cold turkey.
It's a diasnosable disorder, see my Wikipedia link above, take up the argument with the doctors, I can provide you with an addiction psychiatrist phon number if you'd like to hash it out with her . ??


"See my wikipedia link above" lol

Sorry, but citing uncreditable sources, makes your arguments irrelevant. Sounds like you're over thinking this whole thing. Do some real research on marijuana itself, from credible resources, and how it fully activates with your body, and you'll be impressed. You've just been going at this with the wrong mentality.

Its pretty lame that the "sober ones" think their arguments are always more valid, just because they disagree with what the person they are arguing with is using. Not how it works, not some "herbs". Thanks though. I'm educated on this, and some random guy who talked to a physician should really not be changing anyone's minds. Most of this news on Marijuana is still commonly thought of as negative by a lot of doctors, because we have been lied to for years, and that's how they grew up. It's not yet federally legal, and until then(hopefully). A lot of people will refuse to be enlightened.

And if anyone comes at me saying I'm stupid for denying negative effects, look at my above post first. Thanks
Mar 23 2016 12:00AM
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theabortionator
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Yes it's a medicine.

It's pretty obvious. No need for a poll or debate. Well, as long as we're allowed to use logic.
Mar 23 2016 12:04AM
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PeppermillReno
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VinnieFdefinitely has medicinal benefits. But, despite what stoners swear, there are also negative health effects associated with it (mostly when smoked, however). I'd say it can definitely be an effective medicine for many ailments so long as the benefits outweigh the health risks for high usage that is usually required for medicinal purposes.

Also it 100% acts as an amazing placebo for many people who think of it as a magical plant.


This. Better than I could have said.


Also probably the best 'vice' or habit/addiction a person can have.


Makes you lazy tho.
Mar 23 2016 12:05AM
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TrickyDick470
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PachankzThere's a thousand and one articles that discuss this , go do some research, here's one took me two seconds to find . http://drug.addictionblog.org/is-weed-addictive/

Better yet, go smoke an eighth a day for 23 years and stop cold turkey.
It's a diasnosable disorder, see my Wikipedia link above, take up the argument with the doctors, I can provide you with an addiction psychiatrist phon number if you'd like to hash it out with her . ??


You may be right, (I haven't bothered to look at any sources either way so I'm just staying in the middle here), but can we just agree that everything in moderation?

I bought an ounce last summer and I still have probably about an eighth left. I can't even imagine going through an ounce a week. Of course consuming that much cannabis is not going to be beneficial to your system.

Sorry if that sounded like I'm taking shots at you
Mar 23 2016 12:10AM
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Pachankz
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-MK-"See my wikipedia link above" lol

Sorry, but citing uncreditable sources, makes your arguments irrelevant. Sounds like you're over thinking this whole thing. Do some real research on marijuana itself, from credible resources, and how it fully activates with your body, and you'll be impressed. You've just been going at this with the wrong mentality.

Its pretty lame that the "sober ones" think their arguments are always more valid, just because they disagree with what the person they are arguing with is using. Not how it works, not some "herbs". Thanks though. I'm educated on this, and some random guy who talked to a physician should really not be changing anyone's minds. Most of this news on Marijuana is still commonly thought of as negative by a lot of doctors, because we have been lied to for years, and that's how they grew up. It's not yet federally legal, and until then(hopefully). A lot of people will refuse to be enlightened.

And if anyone comes at me saying I'm stupid for denying negative effects, look at my above post first. Thanks


The dsm is uncredited? Lol . K bud .
Have a good night/ life . Off to bed .
Your above post got roasted by that other dude , no need to waste any more finger energy typing with you tonight.
Mar 23 2016 12:29AM
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PeppermillReno
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TrickyDick470You may be right, (I haven't bothered to look at any sources either way so I'm just staying in the middle here), but can we just agree that everything in moderation?

I bought an ounce last summer and I still have probably about an eighth left. I can't even imagine going through an ounce a week. Of course consuming that much cannabis is not going to be beneficial to your system.

Sorry if that sounded like I'm taking shots at you


People who sell weed should go through at least an oz and probably 2 or 3 a week smoking up their friends and customers. If a zip lasts you a year you must not have any friends who burn. If you do you are probably being a dick and leech not throwing down on blunts.
Mar 23 2016 12:31AM
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Pachankz
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TrickyDick470You may be right, (I haven't bothered to look at any sources either way so I'm just staying in the middle here), but can we just agree that everything in moderation?

I bought an ounce last summer and I still have probably about an eighth left. I can't even imagine going through an ounce a week. Of course consuming that much cannabis is not going to be beneficial to your system.

Sorry if that sounded like I'm taking shots at you


Nah I don't see it as taking shots at me. I haven't met many pot heads like myself that could put down an oz a week with ease . It's not common whatsoever. So basically anyone who hasn't experienced that level of impulsive smoking that much for that long really has no legs to argue here .
Mar 23 2016 12:34AM
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qazwsxedc34
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-MK-Close to all of the negative effects coming with cannabis(both THC and CBD) are all based on your mentality on the drug. It doesn't technically make you paranoid, it's just your mind thinking of it as a drug(as society made it seem) and now you tend to get anxious thinking deep down it cMauser negative effects. If you were born out of society, and smoked some bud with no previous negative(false) info on it, you probably would have absolutely no problems with it.


Also fuck anyone who says it's addictive, especially that dickhead up there^. Yeah it's addictive, in the way skiing, sex, video games and junk food are addictive. You love it, and find it pointless to not stop, it brings joy to you...

Although, I can agree on a couple negative effects. Smoking every day, and then suddenly stopping, can tend to make it harder to eat, because you are so used to eating with cannabinoids in your system. Same with sleeping, when I go to bed stoned every night, then don't get stoned one night, it will be much harder to pass out. I also agree that large amounts of smoke are obviously not good for your lungs and throat, yet this can be prevented many ways.

All own first hand experience, and I know a lot of others that would agree with me.

On the medicinal side... Obviously... Pot>opiates any day. Opiates make me feel like shit, and never help as much as I hope. Mostly it's placebo, obviously not always, especially in dangerous high doses, like are often prescribed. Plus tons of positive cancer perks, helping anxiety(in the right mindset) and lots and lots of other things.

How do do you want to medicate? Sketchy pills that risk addiction, and threaten your life? Or a natural plant, with minimal negative effects, and no addictive substances.


You do realize that chemicals in cannabis have potent mechanisms of actions. It's not just your mentality.
Mar 23 2016 9:12AM
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I'm 30, don't take any other medicines, so....

I was watching this video of this this twin turbo G37 build. Turns out the guy is now dead, so you are thinking "oh man he must have lost traction at high speed and died in a wreck".
I looked his death up, nope. He was in his mid 30s and died of a heart attack caused from his anti-inflammatory medicine.
My wife is a doctor and so is my dad but I would never touch most anything other than THC. You can call us addicts but as long as we're staying away from those other prescription meds at least we have that going..
Mar 23 2016 9:38AM
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daannnnieel
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Panta.PowI also think that weed overall is much better than opiates or other drugs they give you when you get hurt real bad. I had my wisdom teeth pulled out and they were in the worst spot possible. The doctors even told me to go back and take some morphine shots if it started to hurt real bad during the day, but weed really helped me relax and not feel for a while.


lol that's a rediculously sketchy idea, smoking dope after getting your wisdoms removed. Any teeth for that matter, or if you have stitches in your mouth.

Suction and smoke + open wounds = dry sockets which are literally the worst shit ever.
Mar 23 2016 8:07PM
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Lé.Skiing
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supermagician__lol that's a rediculously sketchy idea, smoking dope after getting your wisdoms removed. Any teeth for that matter, or if you have stitches in your mouth.

Suction and smoke + open wounds = dry sockets which are literally the worst shit ever.


Word, I'd recommend taking some BHO pills instead. I've never had dry socket first hand, but I know people that have and would advise against it. I would say that Pills are the way to go though.
Mar 23 2016 8:12PM
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daannnnieel
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Lé.SkiingWord, I'd recommend taking some BHO pills instead. I've never had dry socket first hand, but I know people that have and would advise against it. I would say that Pills are the way to go though.


bingo!

this is what my buddy did because he's allergic to codeine and morphine and he was fine.
Mar 23 2016 8:21PM
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Titus69
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CoreyTrevorI'm 30, don't take any other medicines, so....

I was watching this video of this this twin turbo G37 build. Turns out the guy is now dead, so you are thinking "oh man he must have lost traction at high speed and died in a wreck".
I looked his death up, nope. He was in his mid 30s and died of a heart attack caused from his anti-inflammatory medicine.
My wife is a doctor and so is my dad but I would never touch most anything other than THC. You can call us addicts but as long as we're staying away from those other prescription meds at least we have that going..


First off, can I see the link of the TT g37? Those damn VQ's sound nasty

Im from NH, its legal medically and theres a dispensary opening 20 minutes away ;). But Im just so pissed off that our governor think its a bad message for the youth if its decriminilized, the suggested bill only involves a few hundred bucks if caught with X amount of pot yet were still in a heavy battle with heroin here with people OD'ing left and right. I dont get it, she thinks its bad for the youth to see it as decriminilized, we're from NH where 62% of the state wants full legalization obviously a large amount of our youth will end up smoking it anyways and if they get caught, boom they wont get into the military or get their dream scholarship. I cant wait for her to either realized its not the 1970s and weed is fine and is full of science. We just need to take it off the fucking schedule 1 drug list and at least decriminilize it nationwide, theres no reason to put marijuana on a criminal record these days. Fuck it, Im gonna just say I have severe pain, which from skiing all the time is very possible and get some legal pot, fuck this country, they need to just legalize pot and worry about actual drug problems.
Mar 23 2016 9:24PM
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I would say that NSG has averaged at least 1.43 legalize weed threads/week for the past 5 years.
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