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Laurent.
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Several explosions have struck Brussels airport and the metro system, causing at least 13 deaths, Belgian media report.
Two blasts tore through the departures area of Zaventem airport shortly after 08:00 local time (07:00 GMT).

An hour later, an explosion hit Maalbeek metro station, close to the EU institutions. The airport and whole transport system have been closed.
The attacks come four days after Salah Abdeslam, the main fugitive in the Paris attacks, was seized in Brussels.

The Belgian government has confirmed casualties at the airport but has given no numbers. The cause of the explosions is unknown.
Belgium has now raised its terror threat to its highest level.

Belgian broadcaster VRT said that in addition to the dead at the airport, at least 35 people were severely injured.
'Blood everywhere'

The Belga news agency reports that shots were fired and shouts in Arabic were heard before the two explosions. Some reports say it was a suicide attack.







http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35869254

https://www.rt.com/news/336527-brussels-airport-terror-bombing/
Mar 22 2016 5:59AM
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theabortionator
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tis a crazy world.
Mar 22 2016 6:01AM
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Dustin.
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The last few months our people at work have told us to avoid Brussels, but the last two weekends it's been forbidden. Same with the Paris attacks. Sucks when they're right, I honestly don't know what more these governments can do to find these guys before they do this stuff.
Mar 22 2016 6:44AM
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Dustin.The last few months our people at work have told us to avoid Brussels, but the last two weekends it's been forbidden. Same with the Paris attacks. Sucks when they're right, I honestly don't know what more these governments can do to find these guys before they do this stuff.


Where do you work?
Mar 22 2016 8:14AM
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theBearJewWhere do you work?


Pretty sure he's in the Air Force.
Mar 22 2016 8:16AM
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KravtZ
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As long as this unchecked mass migration of muslims continue this will become more and more common until something VERY bad happens which is insanely scary to think about.
Mar 22 2016 8:35AM
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Charlie_Kelly
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KravtZAs long as this unchecked mass migration of muslims continue this will become more and more common until something VERY bad happens which is insanely scary to think about.


Yeah those milions and millions of muslims are planning to build, transport, and set of a nuclear bomb!!!!! If only we werent so free they wouldnt hate us!!!!
Mar 22 2016 10:02AM
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corona
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KravtZAs long as this unchecked mass migration of muslims continue this will become more and more common until something VERY bad happens which is insanely scary to think about.


fuck off with the speculation. We literally know nothing about who did this.

As with the Paris attacks everyone jumped on board the immigrant train, turns out they were almost all born and raised in France.
Mar 22 2016 10:08AM
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KravtZ
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VinnieFfuck off with the speculation. We literally know nothing about who did this.

As with the Paris attacks everyone jumped on board the immigrant train, turns out they were almost all born and raised in France.


multiply a few million illegal immigrants X all their children and the probability just went that much higher...especially being raised in a culture that is completely different than Europe. As much as I wanted to go to Europe at some point in my life...I think i'll stick to the good ole USA and canada. No need to travel to dangerous regions of the world
Mar 22 2016 10:22AM
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J.D.
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VinnieFfuck off with the speculation. We literally know nothing about who did this.

As with the Paris attacks everyone jumped on board the immigrant train, turns out they were almost all born and raised in France.


Yeah, but you get why this is actually much worse, right?

I suspect that we'll find the same thing about the perpetrators here - these are probably western-educated Muslims who have had all the access to modernity that you or I have, speak fluent French, and still did this. Yeah, I'm speculating, but just watch; I bet I'm right. Al-Zarqawi probably has never heard of the people who did this, and woke up to find that someone was carrying out terror attacks in the name of his organization - "inspired by ISIS" - and went on to have a really nice day.
Mar 22 2016 10:35AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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So, forgive me for lack of knowledge here, but did Belgium have any presence in the recent Middle Eastern Conflicts?
Mar 22 2016 10:41AM
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corona
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J.D.Yeah, but you get why this is actually much worse, right?

I suspect that we'll find the same thing about the perpetrators here - these are probably western-educated Muslims who have had all the access to modernity that you or I have, speak fluent French, and still did this. Yeah, I'm speculating, but just watch; I bet I'm right. Al-Zarqawi probably has never heard of the people who did this, and woke up to find that someone was carrying out terror attacks in the name of his organization - "inspired by ISIS" - and went on to have a really nice day.


Sure, I don't doubt this. It's probably even related to the arrest of the at-large Paris attacks suspect. But it's pretty ridiculous to start blaming Syrian refugees and other recent migrants as a lot of people are doing (and as Kravtz was alluding to).
Mar 22 2016 10:42AM
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corona
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.MASSHOLE.So, forgive me for lack of knowledge here, but did Belgium have any presence in the recent Middle Eastern Conflicts?


They were involved in coalition airstrikes until last summer then pulled their support. Although I dunno if they resumed after the Paris attacks, they might have.
Mar 22 2016 10:44AM
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ALLAHU ACKBAR
Mar 22 2016 10:56AM
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J.D.
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VinnieFSure, I don't doubt this. It's probably even related to the arrest of the at-large Paris attacks suspect. But it's pretty ridiculous to start blaming Syrian refugees and other recent migrants as a lot of people are doing (and as Kravtz was alluding to).


There's a connection, but not a direct one. The problems resulting from mass immigration from countries that don't subscribe to enlightenment values are separate, but related to, the problem of Islamist extremist violence in Western countries. If Europe had zero immigrants, though, you'd probably still have had these attacks - this behaviour is the result of decades of indoctrination of second-generation European muslims, first generation immigrants typically aren't the ones doing it (or for that matter leaving to go join ISIS).
Mar 22 2016 11:13AM
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The.Fish
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Why did op get downvoted?
Mar 22 2016 11:55AM
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The.FishWhy did op get downvoted?


He didnt. And who cares they dont matter
Mar 22 2016 12:05PM
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Laurent.
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VinnieFfuck off with the speculation. We literally know nothing about who did this.

As with the Paris attacks everyone jumped on board the immigrant train, turns out they were almost all born and raised in France.


I know what my bookie will bet on. Considering this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_July–December_2015
Based on probability alone, they will probably have some Jihadistic aspirations and probably be muslim, does that make all muslims bad? No, he just went for the knee jerk reaction but the paris attacks definitely had a connection with immigration, in more then one way.
The perprators: All muslim, 5 French, 2 Belgians, of which the Belgians were of Moroccan descent, 2nd gen immigrants. And most of the others fought in Syria.

How they entered Europe, well for one that is quite clear, a bomber carried a passport belonging to a 25-year-old Syrian named "Ahmad al-Mohammad" and a passport-holder claiming to be a Syrian refugee with that name was registered on Leros in October upon his arrival from Turkey.
The dead attacker's fingerprints matched those taken at the registration on Leros.


And a photo has been published showing the suspects of today.



They look very very Belgian to me.
Mar 22 2016 12:06PM
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Bombogenesis
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KravtZAs long as this unchecked mass migration of muslims continue this will become more and more common until something VERY bad happens which is insanely scary to think about.


This got down voted but it's the truth. The rose colored glasses people are so afraid of the truth that they just pretend it doesn't exist. It's sad.

It is a cold, hard, indisputable fact that people with terroristic intentions are coming from the Middle East into European countries. To deny that makes you retarded... Maybe literally.
Mar 22 2016 12:16PM
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KravtZAs much as I wanted to go to Europe at some point in my life...I think i'll stick to the good ole USA and canada. No need to travel to dangerous regions of the world


This is a ridiculous attitude. You can't predict when or how you're going to die. Roughly 30 people just died in an area that has a roughly 800 million people (Europe), so you're going to avoid that whole part of the world?

Go enjoy life and when it's your time to go, it's your time to go.
Mar 22 2016 12:17PM
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KravtZ
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saskskierThis is a ridiculous attitude. You can't predict when or how you're going to die. Roughly 30 people just died in an area that has a roughly 800 million people (Europe), so you're going to avoid that whole part of the world?

Go enjoy life and when it's your time to go, it's your time to go.


Yes, in fact I 100% will avoid that part of the world. You can say what you want...but millions of muslims are invading europe with no intentions of not going to one of the big welfare countries.

Terrorist activities are sky rocketing there now. I would prefer to stay in the US where we have the exact same amenities and I can understand the language. Im not a big culture guy anyways I don't enjoy looking at architecture for 2 weeks.

Sweden is the rape capital of europe now. Brussell's is down the shitter. France is a nightmare. While there certainly are good people mixed in...there is FACT that many many bad people are coming over as well.
Mar 22 2016 12:28PM
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KravtZAs much as I wanted to go to Europe at some point in my life...I think i'll stick to the good ole USA and canada. No need to travel to dangerous regions of the world


I am almost certain that Europe is safer then the USA. I feel safer here than I do in my own hometown. Most of my friends here are immigrants and refugees just trying to make a life after their home was destroyed and all their families were murdered. It is utterly depressing to hear the stories from my "Dirty-Dangerous-Middle-Eastern" friends, nothing like how the media back home shows it.

In all honestly you shouldn't come here with that typical American attitude. People are people everywhere. There are a lot of shitty people in the USA and there are a lot of shitty people in Europe, Middle East, Australia, Asia, etc.

Well I am off to the bar to drink delicious cheap beer and flirt with hot European babes.
Mar 22 2016 12:48PM
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KravtZYes, in fact I 100% will avoid that part of the world. You can say what you want...but millions of muslims are invading europe with no intentions of not going to one of the big welfare countries.

Terrorist activities are sky rocketing there now. I would prefer to stay in the US where we have the exact same amenities and I can understand the language. Im not a big culture guy anyways I don't enjoy looking at architecture for 2 weeks.

Sweden is the rape capital of europe now. Brussell's is down the shitter. France is a nightmare. While there certainly are good people mixed in...there is FACT that many many bad people are coming over as well.


You know a lot about Europe for someone who has never been there...
Mar 22 2016 1:12PM
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Lonely
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BombogenesisThis got down voted but it's the truth. The rose colored glasses people are so afraid of the truth that they just pretend it doesn't exist. It's sad.

It is a cold, hard, indisputable fact that people with terroristic intentions are coming from the Middle East into European countries. To deny that makes you retarded... Maybe literally.


The majority of the attackers were born in the countries they attacked, or other European countries. That's an indisputable fact.

Guess I'm literally retarded.

Way to sound like an ass
Mar 22 2016 1:34PM
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Young Metro dont trust brussels
Mar 22 2016 1:48PM
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Bombogenesis
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LonelyThe majority of the attackers were born in the countries they attacked, or other European countries. That's an indisputable fact.

Guess I'm literally retarded.

Way to sound like an ass


Lol... I guess so. You realize it comes down to simple mathematics right? Like if 1,000,000 refugees come in and 1% have sinister intentions can you calculate how many that is? Let's be ridiculous and even use .1%


Way to sound like an ass
Mar 22 2016 1:50PM
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corona
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BombogenesisLol... I guess so. You realize it comes down to simple mathematics right? Like if 1,000,000 refugees come in and 1% have sinister intentions can you calculate how many that is? Let's be ridiculous and even use .1%


Way to sound like an ass


True. 0.1% would be a ridiculous figure. 0.001% is probably more accurate. I mean, how many of the 3 million Syrian refugees have been found to be involved in terrorist activities? If it is true that 1 from this attack was a Syrian refugee, then what's that make it? The real problem is homegrown terrorism and radicalized youth.
Mar 22 2016 2:05PM
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Bombogenesis
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VinnieFTrue. 0.1% would be a ridiculous figure. 0.001% is probably more accurate. I mean, how many of the 3 million Syrian refugees have been found to be involved in terrorist activities? If it is true that 1 from this attack was a Syrian refugee, then what's that make it? The real problem is homegrown terrorism and radicalized youth.


I'd imagine it's higher than .001
Mar 22 2016 2:15PM
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KravtZAs long as this unchecked mass migration of muslims continue this will become more and more common until something VERY bad happens which is insanely scary to think about.

And yet people of non Muslim backgrounds and from first world countries are flocking to join ISIS. Keep your stereotypes to yourself as Islam is not the problem here.
Mar 22 2016 2:16PM
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corona
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CabbyArrantIslam is not the problem here.


well, let's not be too hasty. Pretty much every terrorist attack on the Western world that involves Muslims has roots in Islam (as in they're perpetrating the attack in some way for one of their religious ideologies as opposed to political or other motives). It's pretty safe to say that Islam IS the problem.
Mar 22 2016 2:28PM
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Laurent.
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CabbyArrantAnd yet people of non Muslim backgrounds and from first world countries are flocking to join ISIS. Keep your stereotypes to yourself as Islam is not the problem here.


Of the Dutch and Belgian citizens who flock to Syria to fight for ISIS, 80% is of Moroccan decent and they are pretty much all muslim. (1)(2)

You are just spouting bullshit right now considering that being a muslim is sort the principal requisite to join ISIS in the first place and a group of Dutch-Morrocan Syria fighters who weren't deemed hardcore enough by ISIS got executed by them.(3)


1. [URL]http://www.parool.nl/parool/nl/224/BINNENLAND/article/detail/3831345/2015/01/17/Weinig-Turkse-Nederlanders-onder-jihadgangers.dhtm[/URL]l
2. http://www.brusselnieuws.be/nl/nieuws/waarom-veel-belgische-marokkanen-en-nauwelijks-turken-naar-syrie-trekken

3. http://www.raqqa-sl.co/en/?p=1691

1 & 2 are in Dutch moonspeak, google translate will help.
Mar 22 2016 2:32PM
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Campeador
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CabbyArrantAnd yet people of non Muslim backgrounds and from first world countries are flocking to join ISIS. Keep your stereotypes to yourself as Islam is not the problem here.


People from non-Muslim backgrounds are flocking to join ISIS? That's a shocker. From what I understand there are many Christians and Jews fighting with the Islamic state.

There is no limit to left-wing stupidity.

This is about Islam you moron.
Mar 22 2016 2:35PM
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Campeador
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It is finally time for Europeans to declare war on Islam, like their ancestors before them.

The spirit of Charles Martel and the Battle of Tours, the Battle of the Navas de Tolosa and the Spanish Reconquista, the Battle of Lepanto, and the Polish cavalry charge at the Gates of Vienna, needs to awaken throughout Europe.

Thank God for leaders like Viktor Orban, who stand as a wall against the muslim invader, and their hijra immigration jihad against the West.
Mar 22 2016 2:45PM
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CabbyArrant
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VinnieFwell, let's not be too hasty. Pretty much every terrorist attack on the Western world that involves Muslims has roots in Islam (as in they're perpetrating the attack in some way for one of their religious ideologies as opposed to political or other motives). It's pretty safe to say that Islam IS the problem.

religions for the most part are benevolent; their practitioners are another story. Almost all religions have had some form of atrocity committed in its name even though such acts may contradict doctrine Yet no one stereotypes these other Religions. Extremism, in all forms is the problem and blaming religious and or ethnic groups as a whole for the actions of a few is completely ignorant.
Mar 22 2016 2:48PM
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BombogenesisI'd imagine it's higher than .001


so you think that, to date, around 3000 refugees have been named terrorists?
Mar 22 2016 2:51PM
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CampeadorPeople from non-Muslim backgrounds are flocking to join ISIS? That's a shocker. From what I understand there are many Christians and Jews fighting with the Islamic state.

There is no limit to left-wing stupidity.

This is about Islam you moron.


I'm not left wing I'm just not racist. You propagate hatred towards people who are of different opinions and you act like a child. Your words carry no weight. And I didn't say Christians or Jews were joining ISIS I merely said people of non Muslim backgrounds as we here in the US have seen people from Christian background defect.
Mar 22 2016 2:54PM
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Campeador
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CabbyArrantreligions for the most part are benevolent; their practitioners are another story.


Nonsense, Islam is an evil political ideology that teaches that infidels deserve death, teachers that women are inferior and are the property of men, permits men to keep women as sex slaves, permits rape and pedophilia, and permits (and encourages) all manner of violence in the name of Islam and jihad.

I mean, let's just look at the prophet of Islam. If we are to believe the muslim "holy" texts, Muhammad was a pedophile rapist and a bloodthirsty warlord who encouraged his men to take female sex slaves as their property.

Mass muslim immigration is nothing less than another form of jihad, called the hijra.
Mar 22 2016 2:59PM
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Campeador
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CabbyArrantI'm not left wing I'm just not racist. You propagate hatred towards people who are of different opinions and you act like a child. Your words carry no weight. And I didn't say Christians or Jews were joining ISIS I merely said people of non Muslim backgrounds as we here in the US have seen people from Christian background defect.


Not defect, convert. I'll let you speculate as to which religion they are converting to.

Islam is not a race you lobotomized idiot.

I encourage a realistic understanding of a dangerous and backwards political ideology disguised as a religion.
Mar 22 2016 3:01PM
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I am in Finland at the moment, but I live 2km from the airport and the metro that I take from school always stops at Maelbeek.

The problem in Brussels is that a region called molenbeek has many immigrants who have a hard time fitting in to society, so they are influenced easily by these terrorists. The police in Brussels is scared of whole that region and everyone tries to avoid it as much as they can.

My thoughs go out to the people who have died or have been injured, and their families.
Mar 22 2016 3:45PM
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Campeador
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Mikael13I am in Finland at the moment, but I live 2km from the airport and the metro that I take from school always stops at Maelbeek.

The problem in Brussels is that a region called molenbeek has many immigrants who have a hard time fitting in to society, so they are influenced easily by these terrorists. The police in Brussels is scared of whole that region and everyone tries to avoid it as much as they can.

My thoughs go out to the people who have died or have been injured, and their families.



Wake up you idiot Belgian! This is a bigger than one muslim ghetto.

As citizens, declare war on Islam, or you'll have no country left. These people have no plans of assimilating, they migrate and produce litters of future jihadis.

Your "thoughts" won't help the people who have died and will continue to die until you take action against the Islamic cancer in your midst.
Mar 22 2016 4:18PM
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Mar 22 2016 4:30PM
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CampeadorWake up you idiot Belgian! This is a bigger than one muslim ghetto.

As citizens, declare war on Islam, or you'll have no country left. These people have no plans of assimilating, they migrate and produce litters of future jihadis.

Your "thoughts" won't help the people who have died and will continue to die until you take action against the Islamic cancer in your midst.


I have muslim friends who are integrated and some of them even work in the european comission. You can say what you want on Islam but the bible has parts in it that are as bad as some parts of the koran.

Anyways, terrorism is a bigger problem then Islam, and there isn`t a simple solution to it.
Mar 22 2016 5:14PM
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Campeador
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Mikael13I have muslim friends who are integrated and some of them even work in the european comission. You can say what you want on Islam but the bible has parts in it that are as bad as some parts of the koran.

Anyways, terrorism is a bigger problem then Islam, and there isn`t a simple solution to it.


Bullshit, there is no comparison you relativist idiot.

Islam is an evil political ideology disguised as a religion.

Fuck you and fuck your muslim friends, you are part of the same cancer. With people like you in Belgium, it's no wonder you're so screwed. Enjoy watching your country descend into anarchy, thanks in large part to people like you and your muslim friends.

Europe is one serious economic crisis away from all out war.
Mar 22 2016 6:15PM
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Bombogenesis
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Turd.Fergusonso you think that, to date, around 3000 refugees have been named terrorists?


Roughly 110,000 refugees entered Europe just between January and February of this year. Using that .001% figure, 1 person would be a terrorist. That's obviously not the case whatsoever. I would say that it would be a LOW estimate that 100 of those people would have intentions of waging Jihad. That would be just under 1% of total refugees.

In 2014, there were about 80,000 refugees from SYRIA ALONE. JUST Syria. So using that 1%, you have 800 people. Let's take 1/10 of that just to keep the numbers "realer" for some people, you still have 80 people. Just from Syria. Just in 2014.

You see where this is going?
Mar 22 2016 6:16PM
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Bombogenesis
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Just over 280,000 refugees into the EU in 2014 alone..and the rate has been increasing.


.01% of that number is 28. Some reports say that 20% of Syrian refugees sympathize with Jihad to some extent..whether that's violent or not who knows. Whether that number is real or not who knows. But even if we cut that number by 1/100, that's still .2%...80,000 Syrian refugees in 2014...160 people. And I'm cutting these numbers by 1/100...
Mar 22 2016 6:19PM
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Granite_StateYeah those milions and millions of muslims are planning to build, transport, and set of a nuclear bomb!!!!! If only we werent so free they wouldnt hate us!!!!


Understand that most of these refugees are not innocent women and children and we better vet them before letting them into our country.
Mar 22 2016 6:24PM
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Campeador
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11433776/Quarter-of-British-Muslims-sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html

At least 25% of the Muslims in Europe are potential terrorist jihadists.
Mar 22 2016 6:28PM
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Bombogenesis
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Campeadorhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11433776/Quarter-of-British-Muslims-sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html

At least 25% of the Muslims in Europe are potential terrorist jihadists.


nahhh its more like .001% lol

:)
Mar 22 2016 6:29PM
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S.J.W
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Bombogenesis.01% of that number is 28. Some reports say that 20% of Syrian refugees sympathize with Jihad to some extent..whether that's violent or not who knows.


I'm just going to clarify something here. In terms of Jihad, yes it does mean a war on non believers. However it also means a struggle against sin. Many of my friends if asked do you have sympathise with Jihad would answer yes because to them they struggle against sin. It's just important to remember that Jihad does have two meanings and that those statistics can be misleading if they didn't ask which Jihad they're referring to.

But apart from that this thread is aids.
Mar 22 2016 6:36PM
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Bombogenesis
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Abu-BaghdadiI'm just going to clarify something here. In terms of Jihad, yes it does mean a war on non believers. However it also means a struggle against sin. Many of my friends if asked do you have sympathise with Jihad would answer yes because to them they struggle against sin. It's just important to remember that Jihad does have two meanings and that those statistics can be misleading if they didn't ask which Jihad they're referring to.

But apart from that this thread is aids.


I cut it by 1/100..to be safe
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