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So i hear their next ski boot there making is supposed to be super light. Like the lightest ski boot ever on the market. Anyone got anymore information about this?
Hawx 2.0 Ultra. Definitely not the lightest ever, its like 1600g so very light for a full alpine boot but not the lightest boot ever. But see a boot fitter.
East_the_SkiSo i hear their next ski boot there making is supposed to be super light. Like the lightest ski boot ever on the market. Anyone got anymore information about this?
Very light, especially for how well it skis. We have about 10 days in our pair and should have a First Look review out soon....
One Nerdy Kid can chime in with more tech stuff here I'm sure
I have seen the boot in person. Extremely light, it is designed and engineer with the same type of plastic that is in the Atomic Backland but now applied to an alpine boot. (according to the rep we are not allowed to post pictures of it right now)
Here is a pic of the Hawx Ultra 130
At 1680 g/26.5 it is currently the lightest 4-buckle, fixed cuff boot on the market. We don't claim "lightest boot ever" because that would include touring boots which can obviously be much lighter. When compared to most of the boots that NS skier use (fixed cuff boots), these will shave over a pound off each foot, which is incredibly noticeable when skiing.
What this boot represents is a 100% focus on downhill performance and best in class fit, and then made to be light weight. Going any lighter than this is for sure possible (hell we make a boot that is basically half this weight) but doing so results in less performance and sacrifices to fit, both of which are problems plaguing light weight boots. Many brands hit a lower weight but with a softer flex and/or a fit that isn't as good.
It's a 98mm (narrow) fit that features Memory Fit which allow the entire lower shell, upper cuff, and liner to be molded to your foot & leg shape. Also in place is dual cuff alignment, adjustable forward lean (13° or 15° or 17°), and cantable soles (0.5° - 3.0°, every half degree).
Men's boots are available in 130, 120, 110, and 100 flexes (size 24.5 - 30.5).
Women's boots are available in 110, 90, and 80 flexes (size 22.5 - 27.5).
Once all of the molds are finalized, look to see these on the feet of Gus, Jossi, Byron, Keefer, Sage, Benchetler, Durtschi, McNutt, and the rest of the team. LSM was just in the office the other day and got his pair set up, he's beyond stoked.
onenerdykidHere is a pic of the Hawx Ultra 130
At 1680 g/26.5 it is currently the lightest 4-buckle, fixed cuff boot on the market. We don't claim "lightest boot ever" because that would include touring boots which can obviously be much lighter. When compared to most of the boots that NS skier use (fixed cuff boots), these will shave over a pound off each foot, which is incredibly noticeable when skiing.
What this boot represents is a 100% focus on downhill performance and best in class fit, and then made to be light weight. Going any lighter than this is for sure possible (hell we make a boot that is basically half this weight) but doing so results in less performance and sacrifices to fit, both of which are problems plaguing light weight boots. Many brands hit a lower weight but with a softer flex and/or a fit that isn't as good.
It's a 98mm (narrow) fit that features Memory Fit which allow the entire lower shell, upper cuff, and liner to be molded to your foot & leg shape. Also in place is dual cuff alignment, adjustable forward lean (13° or 15° or 17°), and cantable soles (0.5° - 3.0°, every half degree).
Men's boots are available in 130, 120, 110, and 100 flexes (size 24.5 - 30.5).
Women's boots are available in 110, 90, and 80 flexes (size 22.5 - 27.5).
Once all of the molds are finalized, look to see these on the feet of Gus, Jossi, Byron, Keefer, Sage, Benchetler, Durtschi, McNutt, and the rest of the team. LSM was just in the office the other day and got his pair set up, he's beyond stoked.
Looking for a new pair of boots next season and these have caught my eye. I've been using a pair of Lange RS 130 Wide (100 mm last) for the past 3 seasons which have fit well with minimum work done. Do you think there is hope for me to be able to fit into a pair of these? :) The other hawx boots with wider lasts don't seem to be as lightweight as the ultra for next season.
DeviateLooking for a new pair of boots next season and these have caught my eye. I've been using a pair of Lange RS 130 Wide (100 mm last) for the past 3 seasons which have fit well with minimum work done. Do you think there is hope for me to be able to fit into a pair of these? :) The other hawx boots with wider lasts don't seem to be as lightweight as the ultra for next season.
Only the Ultra is built in this new construction. To make the other boot lighter will require a completely new boot to be made, which takes time.
Memory Fit allows for the Hawx Ultra to be easily expanded up to 4mm in total width. Obviously, it depends on the specifics of your footshape, but if you had minimal work done to make your 100mm Lange work, then it shouldn't be too much of a job to get an Ultra to fit you.
onenerdykidOnly the Ultra is built in this new construction. To make the other boot lighter will require a completely new boot to be made, which takes time.
Memory Fit allows for the Hawx Ultra to be easily expanded up to 4mm in total width. Obviously, it depends on the specifics of your footshape, but if you had minimal work done to make your 100mm Lange work, then it shouldn't be too much of a job to get an Ultra to fit you.
How would the hawx 130's compare to some of the other burlier 130 flex freeride boots out there now? I get it that every company flex is a little different...but in the 130 most will be pretty dam stiff and responsive. Will they hold up as long as some of your competitors due to having less material? On them? Thanks for the insight as always.
KravtZHow would the hawx 130's compare to some of the other burlier 130 flex freeride boots out there now? I get it that every company flex is a little different...but in the 130 most will be pretty dam stiff and responsive. Will they hold up as long as some of your competitors due to having less material? On them? Thanks for the insight as always.
Part of what makes this boot so unique is that it's not simply thinner, it's thinner with better materials. These better materials allow us to go super thin with the wall thickness but retain a true 130 flex (and I mean true, as in race true) and deliver all of the durability that we deliver with "normal" boots. The Hawx Ultra family passes the same rigorous destruction & fatigue tests that our Redster family of boots passes.
These special materials also allow us to produce a boot that has a much more stable flex pattern in a variety of temperatures, both warm and cold. This means that a Hawx Ultra won't become a super soft boot in spring, nor a cement block in Februrary. It maintains its flex pattern far better than traditional polyurethane.
onenerdykidPart of what makes this boot so unique is that it's not simply thinner, it's thinner with better materials. These better materials allow us to go super thin with the wall thickness but retain a true 130 flex (and I mean true, as in race true) and deliver all of the durability that we deliver with "normal" boots. The Hawx Ultra family passes the same rigorous destruction & fatigue tests that our Redster family of boots passes.
These special materials also allow us to produce a boot that has a much more stable flex pattern in a variety of temperatures, both warm and cold. This means that a Hawx Ultra won't become a super soft boot in spring, nor a cement block in Februrary. It maintains its flex pattern far better than traditional polyurethane.
Awesome. Hopefully I can afford a pair lol. Looking forward to trying these on.
onenerdykidPart of what makes this boot so unique is that it's not simply thinner, it's thinner with better materials. These better materials allow us to go super thin with the wall thickness but retain a true 130 flex (and I mean true, as in race true) and deliver all of the durability that we deliver with "normal" boots. The Hawx Ultra family passes the same rigorous destruction & fatigue tests that our Redster family of boots passes.
These special materials also allow us to produce a boot that has a much more stable flex pattern in a variety of temperatures, both warm and cold. This means that a Hawx Ultra won't become a super soft boot in spring, nor a cement block in Februrary. It maintains its flex pattern far better than traditional polyurethane.
scratchskier321how does last compare to nordica gpx?
Both are "98mm" boots but we each approach the "narrow" topic from different angles. What the GPX (and historically all 98mm boots have been) is simply a wider version of their world cup race last. While this does produce a 98mm last, the contours of the last are built with a small sweet spot in mind for precise skiing on race skis. What we have done instead is simply make a lower volume version of our #1 selling 100mm last. This produces a true, performance fitting 98mm last but one that is much more comfortable for all day skiing.
I tried on the Redster 130 with the carbon backbone in a shop the other day and I could barely get that thing to flex indoors. I am only 150 lbs, but is the hawx 130 going to be the same flex??
parkplaygroundI tried on the Redster 130 with the carbon backbone in a shop the other day and I could barely get that thing to flex indoors. I am only 150 lbs, but is the hawx 130 going to be the same flex??
Hawx Ultra 130 will feel very similar to the Redster Pro 130 indoors. The big difference is on snow where the Redster will get even stiffer. That won't be the case with the Hawx Ultra- it will feel more similar to the instore flex in both super warm or super cold temps.
If that is too stiff for you, then you should try the 120 or 110. The 120 uses the same liner as the 130 (but does not use Grilamid cuff, so it's a bit heavier). The 110 uses one grade lower of a liner, but it still has a 3D construction so it's still pretty awesome.
