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japanadayou heard a pop?
I hope you bought from a shop bc they may help out with the warranty, otherwise good luck. I will say Ive had great luck warrantying skis twice through armada, each time it was very apparent damage caused by rails.
elcornholioIf it's not covered, just put epoxy or marine tex in the opening, and clamp it for 24-48 hours. I strongly suggest using a 2 part mixture.
_ALPHASQUAD_What kind of damage was it? And what skis?
Shoey-SkiShould definitely be covered and if they aren't just ask if who ever you talk too, if they stand by their skis or not, and if they say yes (like anyone working for a ski company likely will) then tell them if they stand by their skis then they should notice it's a manufacturing issue and send you some new skis hope all goes well, good luck!
freeskibum82if thats the tip or tail of the ski, it looks like impact damage to me. nice touching story to try and cover it up but thats going to be considered abuse.
freeskibum82if thats the tip or tail of the ski, it looks like impact damage to me. nice touching story to try and cover it up but thats going to be considered abuse.
_ALPHASQUAD_okay but its not...
_ALPHASQUAD_okay but its not...
brov1so i will be frank with you here, in very cold weather the glue in the ski becomes far more brittle so it takes a lot less impact to delam the ski, the ski looks like countless others i have seen come through the shop that have been fucked by impact. even if you didnt slam into a wall i could be from a chunk of ice or a fall on a trick, i couldnt tell you but it looks to me like impact fasho. and if it looks that way to a ski tech, it probably looks like that to armada and theyre not in the business of giving out free skis so even if it is a regular defective delam it would be hard to prove so i wouldnt be hopeful that they will warrenty that
japanadaARVs and AR7s, I split the base right down the middle of the armada dicut that was underfoot. Split it wide enough that the width of 2 quarters would fit into it. the crack was about 12'' long too.
Shoey-SkiShould definitely be covered and if they aren't just ask if who ever you talk too, if they stand by their skis or not, and if they say yes (like anyone working for a ski company likely will) then tell them if they stand by their skis then they should notice it's a manufacturing issue and send you some new skis hope all goes well, good luck!
freeskibum82if thats the tip or tail of the ski, it looks like impact damage to me. nice touching story to try and cover it up but thats going to be considered abuse.
DominatorJacques^This
Impact. That did not "just happen".
ScreamingNarwhalKinda confused why you made a thread complaining about an issue before getting in touch with Armada to remedy it?
Manufacturing defects happen sometimes, if that's legit the issue, you should be able to work something out, and if not, then I feel like that would be the time to take to the internet.
ScreamingNarwhalAnd if you're stuck with the delaminating, full tilts will make the skis ride like new
brov1so i will be frank with you here, in very cold weather the glue in the ski becomes far more brittle so it takes a lot less impact to delam the ski, the ski looks like countless others i have seen come through the shop that have been fucked by impact. even if you didnt slam into a wall i could be from a chunk of ice or a fall on a trick, i couldnt tell you but it looks to me like impact fasho. and if it looks that way to a ski tech, it probably looks like that to armada and theyre not in the business of giving out free skis so even if it is a regular defective delam it would be hard to prove so i wouldnt be hopeful that they will warrenty that
freeskibum82i've even see the tail of skis delam from them constantly being placed in gondola baskets or by having them hit the ground when someone walks with them like a crutch. (this was a huge problem that volkl knew about for the mantra)
_ALPHASQUAD_As you guys can see my skis are not abuse and are practically new!
LemuelTwo of my roommates have the edollos this year and both pairs delammed at the tip. One on the first day and the other after probably a half dozen days. Armada quality seems to be trash this year.
freeskibum82i've even see the tail of skis delam from them constantly being placed in gondola baskets or by having them hit the ground when someone walks with them like a crutch. (this was a huge problem that volkl knew about for the mantra)
Randy_QuenchI hate to be the bearer of bad news but Armada isn't going to do shit. They have one of the most strict warranty programs in the industry. I know from experience having delammed a pair of AR5s, a pair of OG halos, 2 pairs of Alpha 1s, and a pair of Alpha X's.
BenWhitAnd yet you continue to purchase Armada skis because you are a smart man who recognizes 95% of ski breakdown can be attributed to rider error and poor upkeep. Good on you.
Randy_QuenchI can't tell if you are mocking me or not.. But I would agree to an extent. I continue to buy Armada because I like the way their skis ski and because I like the way they brand themselves. But honestly I think the integrity of their skis is absolute shit.
BenWhitNo matter what you do, a ski is not meant to withstand the abuse of buttering, 50ft jumps, disasters on rails.... it can't happen.
Moral of the story, spring for a more expensive ski. The Alpha X. The Pipe Cleaner. You get what you pay for.
Randy_QuenchHowever I very much disagree with your second comment. As mentioned in my first post I have delammed an Alpha X. In fact, they fell apart quicker than any ski I've owned, Armada or not. Within the first five days I was on them they delammed from toe piece to heel piece underfoot. Totally separated the base from the rest of the ski along the sidewall. And I was out west not even skiing park at the time..
BenWhitStop doing butters because they're a dumb fucking trick and you place undue pressure and uneven load on a stress point of the ski.
KneeDropThis. And stop hitting rails or jumps or moguls, too. Basically, no-impact, no-flex skiing....Stick to the groomed blues and your skis will stay tip-top, just don't go too fast.
They last longest if you just keep them inside and look at them, while thinking about skiing
Randy_QuenchI hate to be the bearer of bad news but Armada isn't going to do shit. They have one of the most strict warranty programs in the industry. I know from experience having delammed a pair of AR5s, a pair of OG halos, 2 pairs of Alpha 1s, and a pair of Alpha X's.
RudyGarmischJust curious, why do you keep buying them?
Randy_QuenchI continue to buy Armada because I like the way their skis ski and because I like the way they brand themselves. But honestly I think the integrity of their skis is absolute shit.
.nastyboth the edollo and bdog are made in the Blizzard factory, and are not on par with the quality of say the ar7, PC, and thall which are made in the Atomic factory (which is where all armadas have been made previously). It's not armada skis as a whole
BenWhitStop doing butters because they're a dumb fucking trick and you place undue pressure and uneven load on a stress point of the ski.
CyanicenineThe Faction Prodigy is nearly identical to the Edollo/ Al Dente if anyone really likes that ski but doesn't like Armada for whatever reason. Also it pleases the gear nerd in me to find skis that are nearly identical from different manufacturers.
Edollo size 178: 133/98/123 sidecut=20.5m
Prodigy size 178: 136/98/126 sidecut=20m
Both have a similar rocker/camber profile with a slightly directional slant, more tip than tail rocker.
britishskierPlease get off of this site.
britishskierPlease get off of this site.
BenWhitkeep in mind I've been here infinitely longer than you have. if you expect your skis to last long, one trick you should not be doing is butters. if you're comfortable with your ski de-lamming in a matter of mere months because you want to spin off the knuckle of a jump, then go right ahead. dumb fucking trick. waste of energy. not everyone on here is Henrik or the Bunch.
KneeDropI want to know why butters are the ski killer, in your mind. Skis flex. A lot more than how much you flex to butter them. I've been doin butters for ~15 years, and they haven't broken any skis yet.
Plus, this kid DIDNT break his skis doin a butter.
Why do you REALLY hate butters? Did one kill your brother?
BenWhitkeep in mind I've been here infinitely longer than you have.
BenWhitdumb fucking trick. waste of energy
BenWhityou should not be doing is butters.
Randy_Quench#claim #dickmeasuringcontest
Someones jelly they can't butter..
Stop telling people how to ski.
Yes, butters may result in the degrading of the structural integrity of your skis.. but so does hitting rails, taking jumps too deep, knuckling, and literally every other aspect of park skiing.
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