Full Tilt Classics: Disappointment. Input Needed.

KravtZPretty obvious by the sounds of it that your boots clearly don't fit you. Get new boots.

fuckmekevinBut I was fitted by a boot fitter, and they fit my well when I didn’t ski with the super feet in them. They almost feel too small, yet they are too soft. Also, my ankle was held down great, but after a year my heel lifts up ever so slightly. I’m not sure what would help hold my heel in place.

NegromancerYou should do a shell check just to make sure they are actually the right size.
Take out the liner and put your foot into the shell, slide your foot forward so your toes touch the front of the shell. Then measure the distance between the back of your heel and the end/back of the shell. If you have more than 3cm between your heel and the shell the boots are too big. Ideally you want 2cm for a standard fit and 1cm for a performance fit.

Also as suggested earlier custom footbeds are a lot better then Superfeet so I would look into getting a pair of them. However that being said if the boots are the wrong size custom footbeds aren't going to solve all that much.

loopieHow many days do you have in them? For me, after three years in a boot they are totally KO'ed. My liners pack out, the plastic soles on the bottom of the boot are completely worn out, buckles start breaking. Those are replaceable, but still.

You got fit by a boot fitter, tried multiple different flex tongues...Have you tried a custom footbed? Had custom work on the shell?

People in here have given you good advice but you insist the boots "fit you." Obviously they don't. Go with a different brand of boot or just deal with what you have.

A boot fitter fit me for a Salomon boot, but they just have never worked for me. Dalbello is the "right fit" for my foot. Always has been and now I won't go with anything else.

PachankzWhat type of skier are you? Park ? Freeride ? Both ?

fuckmekevin50/50. If there’s powder I won’t be anywhere other than the powder.

fuckmekevinI did a shell check and my heel is between 1.8 and 2.2cm from the shell. This is barefoot.

fuckmekevinI did a shell check and my heel is between 1.8 and 2.2cm from the shell. This is barefoot.

fuckmekevinI did a shell check and my heel is between 1.8 and 2.2cm from the shell. This is barefoot.

PachankzK , well the boots I recommend earlier are more freeride boots for someone interested in hard charging, if you want a cabrio 3 piece shell like a ft I recommend dalbellos or even nordica ace 3 stars. Full tilts are cheap children's toys . Best of luck to you tho man.

SessionEven the old Nordica Twin Six (The bottom of their 3 piece line) is more boot than a FT.

ggfski42OP i was in the exact same spot last season. I had FT booters on their 4th season. I tried everything, new tongues, new booster straps. It turned out that my skiing had progressed past the mediocre fit I had with the FT's. And plus my boots were just plain worn out.

So i saved my cash and went to see a real bootfitter this season. It was crazy exspensive, but It has paid off. If you want the best fit possible, your going to have to start over and go see a professional.

Finish out this season with your current boots and start saving for next season. If your cheap when it comes to buying important gear like boots, your skiing will be cheap too

fuckmekevinI have been using full tilt classics for over three years now and I’m starting to overpower them. I was fitted by a boot fitter. They measured my arch and put super feet into them, I definitely felt more grounded with the footbeds and more in control. I was using the stock 6-Flex tongue for quite some time but felt that I was leaning forward too much so I opted to buy the 8-flex tongues, which made the boots a little stiffer. I also bought a expert booster strap to help get rid of extra space in the liner. Yet, with all these modifications I still feel like I’m not one with the ski, that my boots are still too loose despite them being very tight. I tighten the buckles almost to their limits, yet they still feel too soft.

And because they are so tight I can feel pressure points from the exterior parts of the boot pushing on the liner. I also should mention that the buckles blow and break all the time.

I’m out of money and don’t know what I should do? Is there any other mods that would help stiffen up the boot?

Could it be that I need to re-mold my liners as I haven’t done it in a year or is this not necessary?

CabbyArrantI've had a lot of these problems too and I'm still trying to figure them out. I got fitted for them and have 1.5 cm when I checked the shell

fuckmekevinHow does the Dalbello Krypton/Pro I.D compare to something like the classics with a 10 tongue, concerning responsiveness and overall quality?

I really don’t think I can stiffen up the boot anymore, it will still be a noodle laterally than most other boots, which really doesn’t sit well for an aggressive, charging style.

.MASSHOLE.Almost all 3-piece boots will be laterally soft.

parkplaygroundIve owned FT's, ridden Kryptons, and own Ace 3 Stars right now and can say that the FT's were the only laterally soft boots. If you compared these boots to a race boot, then no shit they will be less responsive, but I was 120lbs and I could feel the FT's warp when I skied bumps in them so I sold them after using them a few weeks. FT's are not great boot, but the flex is appealing to people who tend to stay in the park.

Dalbello Il Moro's are my boot of choice ever since I tried them on, but they are always sold out or at full price when I need new boots, then they come up online for good prices when I already have boots. OP, Sell your FT's after a refurbishing, drop some money on something you enjooy for cheap, and honestly, shops want to help you out if you let them know your situation too (plus beer)

.MASSHOLE.Compared to a traditional overlap, they are all laterally soft.

Mr.PenguinSounds like your liners are heavily packed out, new liners would be a good place to start. A new tongue won't really help you feel more connected to the boot. You should take them back to the fitter and voice your concerns, they can shim the boots and add pads to the liner for a quick fix to take up the volume lost from the liners packing out. To get something like that done at my local fitter would run around $40.

Probably a stupid question, but are you drying your liners separate from your shells and then putting them back together and buckling the boot to store them? Leaving them unbuckled causes the shells to lose their shape.

Mr.PenguinSounds like your liners are heavily packed out, new liners would be a good place to start. A new tongue won't really help you feel more connected to the boot. You should take them back to the fitter and voice your concerns, they can shim the boots and add pads to the liner for a quick fix to take up the volume lost from the liners packing out. To get something like that done at my local fitter would run around $40.

Probably a stupid question, but are you drying your liners separate from your shells and then putting them back together and buckling the boot to store them? Leaving them unbuckled causes the shells to lose their shape.

fuckmekevinI just bought new Full Tilt Pro liners at the end of last winter. I’ve had a total of 15 days or less on them, I don’t think they would pack out that quick. I’ll heat mold them. I usually bring them in to get heat molded but could i just do this at home? How hard could it be?

I always buckle the boots back up, although of the past three days I took the liner out and have yet to put it back in.

If I were to get new boots, assuming that they fit me, what brand is most reputable?