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Gun control is so stupid. That's like saying, "Oh Picaboo Street pushed her elderly father down a flight of stairs in front of her young children, so we should ban all stairs!"
If the man is old and fragile enough and there are kids around watching, Picaboo will find a way to domestically abuse him.
TripleXLHoodiesIs there anyone who truly believes that we need to be able to purchase assault rifles made for tissue penetration?
Whens the last time you tried to buy an assault rifle? You know a real NF3 gun...Long waiting list, like 3-9 months, a couple hundred dollar permit to just get your NF3, not to mention the 10k plus price tag.
japanadaWhens the last time you tried to buy an assault rifle? You know a real NF3 gun...Long waiting list, like 3-9 months, a couple hundred dollar permit to just get your NF3, not to mention the 10k plus price tag.
Im not questioning the usual background checks, It is when someone doesn't have to go through these because they purchased through a flea market or gun show. I was also more wondering what use you had for it, not about the background checks.
TripleXLHoodiesIm not questioning the usual background checks, It is when someone doesn't have to go through these because they purchased through a flea market or gun show. I was also more wondering what use you had for it, not about the background checks.
Well that's the thing, a real assault rifle cannot be bought at a gun show or flea market. A civilian AR/AK isn't an assault rifle contrary to what the media and general public think. Assault rifle=full auto. Just because it has a pistol grip and a quad rail and is black and evil looking, doesn't mean its a full auto mag emptying machine.
Have you shot many guns? They aren't for everybody obv, but like cars, bikes, skis, ect, it's fun to have some variety in your collection! My AR with a 10 round mag is less dangerous than a 30.06 8 round Winchester that's for sure. People get too caught up on the 'it looks scary' ideal behind guns.
I love guns. I own a couple shotguns and one AR. When my aunt came to visit I showed her the AR and she told me that it was illegal because it was full auto. She also told me that full auto meant you could fire a round just by pulling the trigger. She also supports Obama and Bernie. I believe gun control should be strict but at the same time if you have not committed any red flag crimes then obtaining a gun should be a painless process. I also believe you should be able to obtain full automatic machine guns if you have the proper intent and pass various evaluations
spaceghostpurpI love guns. I own a couple shotguns and one AR. When my aunt came to visit I showed her the AR and she told me that it was illegal because it was full auto. She also told me that full auto meant you could fire a round just by pulling the trigger. She also supports Obama and Bernie. I believe gun control should be strict but at the same time if you have not committed any red flag crimes then obtaining a gun should be a painless process. I also believe you should be able to obtain full automatic machine guns if you have the proper intent and pass various evaluations
Concerning your aunt, she strikes me as a person who has no interest at all in guns, hence her lack of knowledge on the subject. That she supports Obama or Bernie is honestly a bit irrelevant (fyi - Bernie's home state of Vermont has probably the loosest gun restrictions of any state in the entire country). Her lack of knowledge is a bit unfortunate, and it demonstrates that many people (both liberal and conservative) are unable to have an intelligent conversation on the subject. My very religious and conservative grandmother is the same way (insofar as she is very peaceful and thinks all guns are evil).
With that said, however, do you really think that owning a deadly weapon should be super easy? Just asking for some clarification on your position of "painless process". Does that include hours of safety training in addition to extensive background checks and psychological evaluations? All of these seem perfectly reasonable given what a person is asking to own and equivalent to other dangerous/highly consequential things a person can own. Why should someone who wants to obtain a pilot's license (or driver's license even) go through more training/education than someone who wants to own a deadly weapon?
I am all for gun ownership. But there is definitely the opinion that obtaining a gun in the USA ought to be one of the easiest things we're allowed to do. Do we (you) really want to live in a society where the people around you are allowed to carry a gun (concealed or open) in which there is little to no required training they must have in order to even own one? Think about that for a second and how absurd its real life consequences are.
spaceghostpurpI love guns. I own a couple shotguns and one AR. When my aunt came to visit I showed her the AR and she told me that it was illegal because it was full auto. She also told me that full auto meant you could fire a round just by pulling the trigger. She also supports Obama and Bernie. I believe gun control should be strict but at the same time if you have not committed any red flag crimes then obtaining a gun should be a painless process. I also believe you should be able to obtain full automatic machine guns if you have the proper intent and pass various evaluations
you can obtain a fully automatic machine gun, but its pretty hard and you basically need a personal letter of recomendation from the sheriff after you pass stringent background checks and obtain all the proper permits which includes a class III firearms license
To be fair, gun laws vary from state to state. My State of Michigan, AKA The Murder Mitten, there are a handful of state laws that apply to purchasing a gun.
New Handgun w/o CPL (Concealed Pistol License) from a shop: Must be 21, pass background check, have the cash, and go through a 30-day waiting period.
Used Handgun w/o CPL: Must be 21, No Felonies. Must go to sheriff's office or township or city hall and obtain a permit to purchase (good for 14 days I believe) while going through a background check. When you purchase the firearm you need the owner of the firearm to sign off on the slip received earlier. You must take it to the police station or sheriff's office and have the numbers and history of the gun ran. If it comes back clean with no issues then you're good.
With a CPL you just go through a background check and sign off if you have no criminal background.
I believe those laws above are more than fair and provide a great medium for purchasing a handgun. Nothing overly overbearing, but still deep enough to check and make sure nothing crazy happens (in my eyes).
Rifles and Shotguns are a different story: Cash and Carry. No paper work, no nothing if buying from another person.
