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I really gotta get this out, it is beyond aggravating to me that people don't seem to give a damn about the environment and saving the earth. Now Ik most skiers are big into that stuff because as we all know if climate change and other negative factors that come from the typical human lifestyle don't change soon there will eventually be severe consequences and we all know it. It is just so annoying to me when people say, "oh, it will never happen in our life time," so that's an excuse not to do anythig about it? You want your kids growing up in a place that has been ruined of its natural beauty so they will never be able to experience it's true glory? I mean come on have purpose in your life and Strive to be the generation that saved the world not the one that destroyed it. Some might laugh and troll this but it's the truth not trying to bring spirits down but it has been really stressful thinking about the direction the planet could possibly be headed in and sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that feels this even though I'm not what are your thoughts about everything that's happening with this issue?
Fuck u op. You cant prove that this reality exists outside my mind. I know that once i die the reality dies with me so no "future generations" will be affected bcuz they dont even exist
Lots of people care, and things are being done about it. If you want to really make a difference in the climate movement, try logging on the sierra club or 350.org or any of the other organizations that actually are having an impact. Progress is slow, but it is happening faster now than ever before http://www.sierraclub.org/ http://350.org/ http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/
There are several more but you get the idea
HamFaceGirlLots of people care, and things are being done about it. If you want to really make a difference in the climate movement, try logging on the sierra club or 350.org or any of the other organizations that actually are having an impact. Progress is slow, but it is happening faster now than ever before http://www.sierraclub.org/ http://350.org/ http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/
There are several more but you get the idea
ski-hippieNo matter what we do, it will be useless unless china stops polluting the way they do
Pretty much. They look at the United States and say who are you to tell us we can't industrialize, we are literally doing exactly what you did to get where you are today. The thing about China, culturally speaking, is that they've been through some pretty bad shit over the last couple centuries, so they put up the authoritarian government causing chemical plant explosions every other week and poisoning everyone's drinking water because for the average citizen the economic gains they are seeing are a ton better than what they've been getting for a handful of generations, and are basically worth any price. That will fade as their middle class matures, forgets about their history, and begins to demand first world luxuries like "green" whatever and organic yogurt and whatever bullshit is popular in this country that is supposedly good for the environment.
Shredit0word Im putting my money on the dolphins. seriously though, we are doing everything we can. if people are fucking with you then deal with them op.
Scary thing is, I think it could happen in our lifetime. I'm currently studying engineering, and strongly considering going into environmental engineering because I agree, something needs to be done if it isn't already too late.
cornholiofuck that, humans do enough already. let some other species figure it out
Dude we humans are causing a worldwide mass extinction event unseen by earth since an asteroid hit the yucatan peninsula 65 million years ago...you can join yallqaeda in Oregon. Use that evolved monkey brain and grow the fuck up instead of voting for trump.
sampsihoyosDude we humans are causing a worldwide mass extinction event unseen by earth since an asteroid hit the yucatan peninsula 65 million years ago...you can join yallqaeda in Oregon. Use that evolved monkey brain and grow the fuck up instead of voting for trump.
sampsihoyosDude we humans are causing a worldwide mass extinction event unseen by earth since an asteroid hit the yucatan peninsula 65 million years ago...you can join yallqaeda in Oregon. Use that evolved monkey brain and grow the fuck up instead of voting for trump.
Info wars? I will crush you
Ya dude cornholio is so stupid he probably cant even pick up on sarcasm. What a fucking moron he is
Op.We will never get the damn Asians to stop polluting. They just don't care.
I think we have to change something at home here in America first. Maybe our manufacturing standards are greener, but on a household basis most people simply don't give a fuck.
250rminke whale sashimi is one of the most delicious things i've ever had...
You sure you were eating what you think you were? The only reports I've heard about whale meat is that it tastes terrible. And in Japan they even try to introduce it to children at a young age in school so they develop a taste for it since it tastes so bad. Maybe I've heard wrong though.
kryptonicI really gotta get this out, it is beyond aggravating to me that people don't seem to give a damn about the environment and saving the earth. Now Ik most skiers are big into that stuff because as we all know if climate change and other negative factors that come from the typical human lifestyle don't change soon there will eventually be severe consequences and we all know it. It is just so annoying to me when people say, "oh, it will never happen in our life time," so that's an excuse not to do anythig about it? You want your kids growing up in a place that has been ruined of its natural beauty so they will never be able to experience it's true glory? I mean come on have purpose in your life and Strive to be the generation that saved the world not the one that destroyed it. Some might laugh and troll this but it's the truth not trying to bring spirits down but it has been really stressful thinking about the direction the planet could possibly be headed in and sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that feels this even though I'm not what are your thoughts about everything that's happening with this issue?
This could be the epidemic that we need. The human race will at some point cease to exist.
VinnieFYou sure you were eating what you think you were? The only reports I've heard about whale meat is that it tastes terrible. And in Japan they even try to introduce it to children at a young age in school so they develop a taste for it since it tastes so bad. Maybe I've heard wrong though.
no, so much bullshit information out there. who said it tastes terrible? sea shepherd? it tastes somewhere in between beef and tuna. and this was in iceland, where whaling is legal. minke whales are not at all endangered. some even believe that hunting some of them is a good thing. they feed heavily on fish that are endangered such as atlantic cod.
and seriously sea shepherd and green peace better fuck off from the canadian arctic. for a lot of inuit and northern quebecois, sea mammals such as whale and seal are one of their only food sources for much of the year.
250rno, so much bullshit information out there. who said it tastes terrible? sea shepherd? it tastes somewhere in between beef and tuna. and this was in iceland, where whaling is legal. minke whales are not at all endangered. some even believe that hunting some of them is a good thing. they feed heavily on fish that are endangered such as atlantic cod.
and seriously sea shepherd and green peace better fuck off from the canadian arctic. for a lot of inuit and northern quebecois, sea mammals such as whale and seal are one of their only food sources for much of the year.
Nah nothing like Greenpeace. My dad being one. He said it tasted like beef boiled in salt water. Not very good at all. He had it in Greenland. And a friend who had it in Nunavut and thought it wasn't that great.
Also you wouldn't be the first person to be fed sushimi or sushi that's a totally different species than claimed. Even in the grocery stores in Canada something like 1/3 of all fish is mislabeled. And that's before it's all diced up in a restaurant when they're claiming fresh tuna but feeding you some other miscellaneous whitefish.
250rno, so much bullshit information out there. who said it tastes terrible? sea shepherd? it tastes somewhere in between beef and tuna. and this was in iceland, where whaling is legal. minke whales are not at all endangered. some even believe that hunting some of them is a good thing. they feed heavily on fish that are endangered such as atlantic cod.
and seriously sea shepherd and green peace better fuck off from the canadian arctic. for a lot of inuit and northern quebecois, sea mammals such as whale and seal are one of their only food sources for much of the year.
Also minke are baleen whales and don't feed on fish.
VinnieFNah nothing like Greenpeace. My dad being one. He said it tasted like beef boiled in salt water. Not very good at all. He had it in Greenland. And a friend who had it in Nunavut and thought it wasn't that great.
Also you wouldn't be the first person to be fed sushimi or sushi that's a totally different species than claimed. Even in the grocery stores in Canada something like 1/3 of all fish is mislabeled. And that's before it's all diced up in a restaurant when they're claiming fresh tuna but feeding you some other miscellaneous whitefish.
ok well im a chef, and have eaten all kinds of seafood before. no way that was anything but a sea mammal. as with anything preparation and freshness are key. i had some smoked whale there that was awful. that was mainly because it had been so heavily smoked that it just tasted like char.
so yea if you take some lesser cuts of whale, and just boil it in water, its probably not going to be very good. i wouldnt just boil a piece of beef tenderloin or even ahi tuna in unflavoured water.
heres a picture of the dish a few bites in. also the smoked puffin i had at that restaurant was phenomenal as well.
VinnieFNah nothing like Greenpeace. My dad being one. He said it tasted like beef boiled in salt water. Not very good at all. He had it in Greenland. And a friend who had it in Nunavut and thought it wasn't that great.
Also you wouldn't be the first person to be fed sushimi or sushi that's a totally different species than claimed. Even in the grocery stores in Canada something like 1/3 of all fish is mislabeled. And that's before it's all diced up in a restaurant when they're claiming fresh tuna but feeding you some other miscellaneous whitefish.
and dub post but just had to add...do you even know what sashimi is? haha. diced up mystery fish is not sashimi. if any reputable sushi place around where i lived tried that, they would be called out in minutes. and tuna is not a whitefish...
250rand dub post but just had to add...do you even know what sashimi is? haha. diced up mystery fish is not sashimi. if any reputable sushi place around where i lived tried that, they would be called out in minutes. and tuna is not a whitefish...
It's pretty well documented that fish is very often mislabeled. Especially tuna. My bad on implying it's a whitefish, being replaced with whitefish is probably more accurate. Sushi places, I'm sure even some you consider reputable, mislable fish all the time.
Getting back to the whale though, even if what you had was whale that's still 2-1 on firsthand accounts I've heard saying it wasn't great. And in my dad's case it wasn't boiled, it just had the taste and texture like it was.
Also there really is no defending whale hunting. In this age it's a totally outdated practice that has no need other than for tradition. No one needs it to survive any more with how connected even the most remote northern communities are. Granted more government subsidies on shipping alternatives up north might not go amiss knowing how much they pay for food.
Also I'd like to see your information on how hunting minke has benefits.. Since 'they eat cod' is totally wrong.
VinnieFIt's pretty well documented that fish is very often mislabeled. Especially tuna. My bad on implying it's a whitefish, being replaced with whitefish is probably more accurate. Sushi places, I'm sure even some you consider reputable, mislable fish all the time.
Getting back to the whale though, even if what you had was whale that's still 2-1 on firsthand accounts I've heard saying it wasn't great. And in my dad's case it wasn't boiled, it just had the taste and texture like it was.
Also there really is no defending whale hunting. In this age it's a totally outdated practice that has no need other than for tradition. No one needs it to survive any more with how connected even the most remote northern communities are. Granted more government subsidies on shipping alternatives up north might not go amiss knowing how much they pay for food.
Also I'd like to see your information on how hunting minke has benefits.. Since 'they eat cod' is totally wrong.
Haha you clearly lack an understanding of how the.culinary world works. I'll reply later when I'm not on mobile.
250rHaha you clearly lack an understanding of how the.culinary world works. I'll reply later when I'm not on mobile.
You need no knowledge of the culinary world to understand that:
- I've been told from first hand experience that whale doesn't taste good
- fish is often mislabeled in both the grocery stores and in restaurants.
- Whale hunting is both unneeded and damaging to some of the most vulnerable species on the world.
I don't know what someone with culinary experience can clarify here. You can't change what I've been told, you can't change or reinterpret the facts of the fish industry as has been clearly written in many articles I've seen, and a chef has no place commenting on ocean ecology.
250rHaha you clearly lack an understanding of how the.culinary world works. I'll reply later when I'm not on mobile.
VinnieFYou need no knowledge of the culinary world to understand that:
- I've been told from first hand experience that whale doesn't taste good
- fish is often mislabeled in both the grocery stores and in restaurants.
- Whale hunting is both unneeded and damaging to some of the most vulnerable species on the world.
I don't know what someone with culinary experience can clarify here. You can't change what I've been told, you can't change or reinterpret the facts of the fish industry as has been clearly written in many articles I've seen, and a chef has no place commenting on ocean ecology.
We're not even halfway through the first page and you two have turned this thread into a conversation about seafood haha
VinnieFYou need no knowledge of the culinary world to understand that:
- I've been told from first hand experience that whale doesn't taste good
- fish is often mislabeled in both the grocery stores and in restaurants.
- Whale hunting is both unneeded and damaging to some of the most vulnerable species on the world.
I don't know what someone with culinary experience can clarify here. You can't change what I've been told, you can't change or reinterpret the facts of the fish industry as has been clearly written in many articles I've seen, and a chef has no place commenting on ocean ecology.
ok well i'm tired of arguing about this shit, and ill admit your right about a few things.
ill will make a few points though
2 personal opinions of how something tastes is not enough to come to a conclusion. you still have not said how the whale was prepared in either of those instances.
i enjoyed the whale, as did my mom and my brother. i was talking to a local sushi chef, and he said that whale was one of the things he missed most from japan. you can go online and find plenty of rave reviews of 3 frakkar. that is the restaurant which we had it, and the sashimi is one of their most well known dishes.
i wont argue about fish in grocery stores, any protein from a grocery store is going to be of questionable quality. personally i don't buy meat and fish at grocery stores. i either go to farmers markets, fish markets, or order wholesale through the restaurant.
most of the time when we receive fish at the restaurant it comes in as the whole fish. so we know damn well what kind of fish we are serving. so in order for us to "mislabel" we would have to intentionally lie about what we are serving. sure we could save some money by using a cheaper fish, but thats taking a big gamble. if word gets out that we are lying about whats on our menu, there goes our reputation.
i have watched sushi chefs break down fish before, and i am familiar with the tastes of the different fish that they serve. could it be possibly that they are sneaking in a mystery fish? yea maybe, but it would extremely unlikely.
pretty much your whole argument of mislabeled fish only applies to lower end places. when you have customers who are knowledgable about the food they are eating, you will get called out on small things like that.
i'm not going to get in the ocean ecology discussion to much as i'm not that interested in it. while i obviously don't want us to wipe out our oceans, there are a lot of things that i'm probably not going to give up. i still eat bluefin tuna and wild atlantic salmon from time to time. do i think everyone should start eating more bluefin? no, but its incredibly delicious, and i would have a hard time not recommending to try it.
the conservation status of minke whales is ranked as least concern. i'm no expert but i doubt that the small amount that iceland consumes is going to make a big difference to the ocean.
and seriously, how does shipping a bunch of preserved food all the way to arctic sound like a good idea? not only is it bad for the environment, its also bad for the inuit. you can argue that they consume too much mercury with their traditional diet, but look at what happened to them when they were introduced to western foods. inuits have been plagued with obesity, and diabetes since becoming westernized. they are used to eating a diet very high in fat, with moderate protein, and next to no carbohydrates. shipping a bunch of grains and insulin syringes to them is only going to make their lives worse.
finally you are right about the minke whales not eating cod, that is just what i had heard and hadn't looked into it, so i stand corrected on that.
so do the people of iceland NEED to hunt whales? no, but it is a huge part of their culture, so i doubt it will ever end. do you think the vegan bitches of LA and new york are going to be able to ban foie gras in france, or even quebec? not a fucking chance.
and one last thing to add to this jumbled mess of rambling, take a look at the picture i posted. what fish in the entire world has meat that colour? if you look closely you will see that the fat marbling is similar to other mammal's meat. if i didn't know what it was id think it was beef. but what i had sure as hell wasn't beef, and it definitely wasn't fish either...
