Skiing DIN preferences

You answered your own question (I think atleast) by saying that each person skis differentlly.

I dont work in a ski shop but if I was told to set a binding into a boot properly, I would have no problem as long as I knew where the forward pressure setting was.

The biggest difference you have to consider when setting bindings for park skiers is that they have a much higher probability of landing in awkard positions that would make the ibnding release much more than the average skier. Because of this, park skiers tend to raise their dins because it is honestly needed alot of the time. From my experiences, I find that a half point-1 full point raise in din for park is usually fine for beginner to intermediate if they are at the right din for their recommendation by the din chart.

For more advanced skiers, asking is helpful, and if they know what they want, just set it to the appropriate din recommendation by the din chart, toss them the screw driver and tell them that if they want to change the din to what they want, then go for it but you/the shop won't be liable for that.

You don't have to listen to me and I could be completely wrong and full of horse shit, but this is what I have found to be helpful and works well.

Hell, I might've not even answered the question you were asking

Honestly i have a 14 din and a 13 din binding because they are more burly and hold up better. Ive had a 11 din before and went through 5 brakes and the $20 more for the 13 and 14 din bindings i got is much worth it. I only ride on 7.5 on the daily, but if i could ski somewhere bigger than 200ft vertical hills, i would crank up to 8.5 most likely.

bindings I've had before below 12/13/14 din

Marker Squires (11 din) $179
Salomon L10? (10 din) - $129

bindings i have now

Look Pivot 14 2015 (14 din) $177 (got on steapandcheap.com in april)
Tyrolia Attack 13 2016 (13 din) $135 (a guy hooked me up through a pro deal at a tent sale)

parkplaygroundYou answered your own question (I think atleast) by saying that each person skis differentlly.

I dont work in a ski shop but if I was told to set a binding into a boot properly, I would have no problem as long as I knew where the forward pressure setting was.

The biggest difference you have to consider when setting bindings for park skiers is that they have a much higher probability of landing in awkard positions that would make the ibnding release much more than the average skier. Because of this, park skiers tend to raise their dins because it is honestly needed alot of the time. From my experiences, I find that a half point-1 full point raise in din for park is usually fine for beginner to intermediate if they are at the right din for their recommendation by the din chart.

For more advanced skiers, asking is helpful, and if they know what they want, just set it to the appropriate din recommendation by the din chart, toss them the screw driver and tell them that if they want to change the din to what they want, then go for it but you/the shop won't be liable for that.

You don't have to listen to me and I could be completely wrong and full of horse shit, but this is what I have found to be helpful and works well.

Hell, I might've not even answered the question you were asking

Mainly looking to see what intermediate to advanced freestyle skiers are using for DIN and what their height weight is. not trying to turn this into a "what DIN should I be at" God knows there are enough of those and im comfortable with 12 for me and my aboility just want to see what others are at

5'9" and 130 pounds. I am a pretty decent park skier and I ride about 7 or so because I like my knees. I use Tyrolia Attack 13.

din is just a a number to represent the newton/meters of force it takes to eject from your bindings so people should just follow the charts that tell you your recommended din based on the boot sole length, skier age, weight, height, and skier type. Changing dins doesn't solve problems, if you think your ejecting to much it is more likely because you are not skiing centered on your skis. there are exceptions such as if you pop your heels trying to do buttery stuff but most often the problem is the skiing not the DIN doesn't matter whether you charging through the woods or spinning on 60 footers. Just saying this for the 12 year old that reads your post and thinks the reason his bindings pop out is his din is to low when its really his form is shit. I'm 5' 7"m, an aggressive III, ski park (up to 60 foot with spins 75 foot straight) and BC type terrain and I'm a a 7.5.

Steezenbreezedin is just a a number to represent the newton/meters of force it takes to eject from your bindings so people should just follow the charts that tell you your recommended din based on the boot sole length, skier age, weight, height, and skier type. Changing dins doesn't solve problems, if you think your ejecting to much it is more likely because you are not skiing centered on your skis. there are exceptions such as if you pop your heels trying to do buttery stuff but most often the problem is the skiing not the DIN doesn't matter whether you charging through the woods or spinning on 60 footers. Just saying this for the 12 year old that reads your post and thinks the reason his bindings pop out is his din is to low when its really his form is shit. I'm 5' 7"m, an aggressive III, ski park (up to 60 foot with spins 75 foot straight) and BC type terrain and I'm a a 7.5.

I definitely don't think this is completely True. There's plenty of little dudes who shred hard enough to need higher dins for themselves to stay in. I'm 5'11" 150(ish) and I pop out all the time on anything under 9. I do a lot of butters, presses, etc so I have my pivots on an 11 because I feel comfortable with them. When I skies moguls I rocked a 12 when I was 2 years younger because I went so hard that I would lose a ski in the middle of a line which is way more dangerous than not releasing in one... don't treat people Luke predictable numbers man. Theres way too many variants to make what you said an applicable fact to a lot of people on this sight... although all you 12 year olds should listen to him

parkplaygroundI definitely don't think this is completely True. There's plenty of little dudes who shred hard enough to need higher dins for themselves to stay in. I'm 5'11" 150(ish) and I pop out all the time on anything under 9. I do a lot of butters, presses, etc so I have my pivots on an 11 because I feel comfortable with them. When I skies moguls I rocked a 12 when I was 2 years younger because I went so hard that I would lose a ski in the middle of a line which is way more dangerous than not releasing in one... don't treat people Luke predictable numbers man. Theres way too many variants to make what you said an applicable fact to a lot of people on this sight... although all you 12 year olds should listen to him

I completely agree that different level of skiers need different dins that's what the whole I, II, III, III+ is for I was more talking about a a type II skier who cranks his dins up where as you sound like a III or III+, and yeah it is a generalized system but there are just to many kids who fuck with their dins when there not supposed to you really have to know what your doing to make that decision hence the part where I said there are exceptions.

SteezenbreezeI completely agree that different level of skiers need different dins that's what the whole I, II, III, III+ is for I was more talking about a a type II skier who cranks his dins up where as you sound like a III or III+, and yeah it is a generalized system but there are just to many kids who fuck with their dins when there not supposed to you really have to know what your doing to make that decision hence the part where I said there are exceptions.

ok it just sounded like you were talking about situational tricks instead of individual styles and skiers.

i have multiple pairs of fks and ride 11 in the heel, 9.85 in the toe and its perfect
6'2 and 180 lbs
type 3 i guess
i ski all mtn and park, and drop the small occasional cliff
where i ski we dont really have a park, but we do have a decent 25-30 footer that me and all my friends spin off of. and basically two rails. so lots of all mtn jibbing, pressing, buttering off cat tracks, boosting into mogul fields/crappy landings, and am working my way up there on some bigger switch landings.

any decently deep nose presses and other buttery type things i always pop out unless im above 10 in the heel (probably because im a little bit bigger dude). and then on switch landings into pow on some of the mini booters weve built i felt the 11 was perfect and only come out when i need to. as for teh 9.85 in the toe, its enough to keep me in when sliding a rail and switch ups and what not, yet not that high so when i tomahawk off everything i will release. as for where the shop put me at like an 8, i came out nearly everytime sliding rails and my dins definately needed to be tightened.



sooooooooooooooo for your very last remark on your op.. nah i will continue to adjust my bindings with extreme caution. i know its dangerous, but theyre exactly to my liking and have not gotten hurt after some pretty gnarly bails and wrecks

^similar to shin-bang, im 6'2 195, same style of riding mostly all mountain jibbing with a bit of park, if i nose press at anything under 10 on the heel i pop out, id say im probably a level 3 rider. I have a pair of look pivot 14's set at 12 for heel and toe, and that seems to work fairly well.

Kygourzdin is just a a number to represent the newton/meters of force it takes to eject from your bindings so people should just follow the charts that tell you your recommended din based on the boot sole length, skier age, weight, height, and skier type. Changing dins doesn't solve problems, if you think your ejecting to much it is more likely because you are not skiing centered on your skis. there are exceptions such as if you pop your heels trying to do buttery stuff but most often the problem is the skiing not the DIN doesn't matter whether you charging through the woods or spinning on 60 footers. Just saying this for the 12 year old that reads your post and thinks the reason his bindings pop out is his din is to low when its really his form is shit. I'm 5' 7"m, an aggressive III, ski park (up to 60 foot with spins 75 foot straight) and BC type terrain and I'm a a 7.5.

If you just followed the charts, then why would there be multiple skier types? Park skiing definitely requires higher din settings. Most park skiers should probably choose a skier type of 3, and if you are coming out of bindings that are set up correctly, you could even bump it up to 3+ or beyond.

For park, you should probably start at type 3, and adjust as you see fit.

I set mine so that they stay on when they should stay on and release when they should release.

Seems weird to ask this question but not ask about BSL. I have a pretty high din for my size, 5'2 130lbs, but it's because I have tiny feet. My BSL is 270 and I ski an 8 din for park and a 9 for pow, because of the wet pow in the PNW (sucks to lawn dart a pow landing because your binding wasn't ready for the sticky stuff). The din chart puts me at a 7 for level 3 skier, and then I'm not on the chart for 3+. I found I was releasing when I shouldn't at a 7. If you have large feet you'll have a slightly lower din than someone else the same size/weight with small feet because the binding is able to hold more leverage with the longer sole. Definitely something to keep in mind if you lend your skis out.

CyanicenineSeems weird to ask this question but not ask about BSL. I have a pretty high din for my size, 5'2 130lbs, but it's because I have tiny feet. My BSL is 270 and I ski an 8 din for park and a 9 for pow, because of the wet pow in the PNW (sucks to lawn dart a pow landing because your binding wasn't ready for the sticky stuff). The din chart puts me at a 7 for level 3 skier, and then I'm not on the chart for 3+. I found I was releasing when I shouldn't at a 7. If you have large feet you'll have a slightly lower din than someone else the same size/weight with small feet because the binding is able to hold more leverage with the longer sole. Definitely something to keep in mind if you lend your skis out.

thats a good point I totally blanked on BSL i ski salomon ghost 80's in a 28.5 dont know what that is at the top of my head

I work in a shop so I twist all day, so I feel ya brother. Personally I'm a 9 on the chart and thats what I ride with. Never have any issues. I have brought this up though multiple times though, you see the pros and all of them rocking Jester Pros and FKS18 and what not so yu know that they are on the upper side so they can throw hard. We did this every year with a a group of us from the shop, take our rental skis, put on like a 2 on the bindings, and try to see how perfect we can ski lol. Its actually really really fun when a group of like 10 is popping out when you just try and turn. But my thought is, what if we had the pros kick their number down, maybe not to a 2 because thats ridic, but then they would have to land like perf of of everything and hit everything perf and if you mess up there goes your skis...Id just like to see it, props wouldn't work if than did any hard spins, but sounds like a fun idea and it is a fun idea I suggest everyone grab a beater pair of skis with a low din, a group of friends and just started going down the hill and pushing each other and turning and watch your skis go popping off.

ICaryBut my thought is, what if we had the pros kick their number down, maybe not to a 2 because thats ridic, but then they would have to land like perf of of everything and hit everything perf and if you mess up there goes your skis...Id just like to see it, props wouldn't work if than did any hard spins, but sounds like a fun idea and it is a fun idea I suggest everyone grab a beater pair of skis with a low din, a group of friends and just started going down the hill and pushing each other and turning and watch your skis go popping off.

This should be in the winter Olympics. Get like 10 skiers to ski down a mogul line with their dins on 2, whoever makes it the furthest wins.

I see a lot of people use their DIN number as some sort of dick measuring test. Start at the recommended specs and depending on what kind of skier you are, change accordingly. People who race will obviously need a higher DIN to stay in vs the typical jerry. If you can create enough pressure on the ski to pop out, try moving the DIN up in half increments till you can safely ski or trick but still pop out when you need to. Its different for every binding and different for every skier and skill.

shin-bangi have multiple pairs of fks and ride 11 in the heel, 9.85 in the toe and its perfect

I'd love to know how you get 9.85 exactly, talking hundredths of a DIN here, considering the scale on the binding is about 2mm between whole DINs you're telling me you can gauge your DIN indicator to 0.02mm

Besides the fact that binding construction and tolerance is completely up the shit, as are most bindings DINs after about 2 days of riding, and if you put them on a proper torque measuring machine I bet you would find significantly different release force values between the 2, so obsessing over tiny fractions of a DIN is essentially meaningless when there's a pretty good chance your bindings are at least 0.5 DIN different in actual release force.

rozboonI'd love to know how you get 9.85 exactly, talking hundredths of a DIN here, considering the scale on the binding is about 2mm between whole DINs you're telling me you can gauge your DIN indicator to 0.02mm

Besides the fact that binding construction and tolerance is completely up the shit, as are most bindings DINs after about 2 days of riding, and if you put them on a proper torque measuring machine I bet you would find significantly different release force values between the 2, so obsessing over tiny fractions of a DIN is essentially meaningless when there's a pretty good chance your bindings are at least 0.5 DIN different in actual release force.

hahahhaha you are exactly correct. i just looked at it real closely as they are just under 10. if ya want to be a stickler i could just say its a 10 in the toe. i said 9.85, as thats where they appear to be at after i looked at them closely. lol

>not asking boot sole length
>thinking DIN means anything without knowing BSL
Bad thread is bad. I ski at a 9. Someone the same height and weight as me but with much smaller feet could crank his up to 11 and require the same release force.

I don't know my exact height and weight but DIN charts put me at 7 as a type 3. I ski at 9. I tried 10 because they were releasing easily at 9, but then I crashed a 40 foot cliff and neither ski released, so I put them back down to 9. I don't ski park. I am an expert skier and regularly huck cliffs up to about 20 feet. Only tried something much bigger than that once which is the 40 footer I mentioned.

>mfw I accidentally read your post as you being 12 years old rather than skiing a DIN of 12